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Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #120 on: December 21, 2008, 05:42:13 PM »
Thanks for tips broli. Although not to the extremes you've mentioned, I have measured the diode arrays are various temperatures. So far two types of effects have been measured.

1) Effect #1: Temperature - the diode array voltage has consistently changed throughout the day, where it's peak is when the root temp is peak, and minimum when the root temp is minimum.

2) Effect #2: TEDE (thermal equilibrium diode effect), where most (not all) of the diodes DC voltage is reset caused by a rapid change such as in temperature.  TEDE is believed to be caused by flicker noise, which is easily reset by either halting the DC current long enough, or by a rapid change such as temperature. One good example of this was when I took a heat gun to both the 1st and 2nd metal shields. In fact, the heat gun was so hot that it broke. The diode temp must have been over 100F. Anyhow, prior to the heat gun, the diode DC voltage was high, over 0.2mV DC. Almost immediately after applying the heat gun, within a half hour, the DC voltage began to sink like a rock. After about three days or so it sank to 12.4uV DC. After about a week the DC voltage began to slowly rise again until I disturbed the diode array again, which caused it to sink again. It began to rise again, until I disturbed it again, and it sank again. It went to it's lowest to date, which is 6.9uV DC. Now it's been 8 days later and it's up to 21.9uV DC taken from last nights measurements. This shows the signs of flicker noise, which is 1/f noise; i.e., the longer you wait, the higher the noise voltage.

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #120 on: December 21, 2008, 05:42:13 PM »

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #121 on: December 21, 2008, 05:52:51 PM »
Why is so sensitive to temperature changes? It seems to be acting like an inertial body or even a magnetic field. That is that it heavily opposes change.

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #122 on: December 21, 2008, 06:01:23 PM »
That's a good question. I know flicker noise causes charges to become trapped over time, a very slow process. And we're dealing with thermal equilibrium here, so at this level it's a plausible theory that the trapped charges are easily released, which would reset the flicker noise. Remember, flicker noise is a 1/f spectrum. So if the DC current is on for 10 seconds, then that's 0.1 Hz flicker noise. If it's on for 1 hour, then that's 278 uHz flicker noise. 0.1Hz / 278uHz = 360. So the flicker (1/f) noise is a lot higher after 1 hour. If we repeat the 1 hour test again, but interrupt the DC current half way through, then it's no longer 278uHz. Rather, it's 556uHz, which has less flicker noise.

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #122 on: December 21, 2008, 06:01:23 PM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #123 on: December 21, 2008, 06:04:22 PM »
Continuing from my last post, this is uncharted territory, so one can only speculate. Who knows, for all we know it could be a build up of some unknown current, who knows, perhaps etheric current.  ;D

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #124 on: December 21, 2008, 06:17:33 PM »
Yep most talk will not bring us far at this stage. What's your current status on the chip fabrication?

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #124 on: December 21, 2008, 06:17:33 PM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #125 on: December 21, 2008, 06:45:18 PM »
The present long term 156 diode array measurements are shedding light on what makes TEDE tick, how to predict it, eliminating some theories while reinforcing other theories.

I don't of anyone who's started making the chip fabrication equipment. No plans yet.

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #126 on: December 21, 2008, 06:51:21 PM »
I have to be very careful where my money is spent, since there's not much of it. So I'm still thinking out possible ways of making chip fabrication equipment, but I already outlined one viable method -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?board=11.0

This method is enough to fabrication custom chips, which includes solar cells. This could be the start of a huge business for anyone while doing some real great service to the world that's in disparate need of solar cells. Also you could fabricate LED's, another booming industry that is now beginning to slowly replace light bulbs. So such semiconductor fabrication equipment has a lot of usefulness.

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #126 on: December 21, 2008, 06:51:21 PM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #127 on: December 22, 2008, 04:57:45 PM »
Last night was the scheduled 12V N-size alkaline battery measurement that has been shorted for several months.
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=73.msg200#msg200

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #128 on: December 22, 2008, 09:49:59 PM »
what kosol and his minions do with metals,
is exactly what the 2 spinning wheels of a wimhurst machine do.

mixing clockwise magnetism,
and coutner-clockwise magnetism,
into electricity.


the wimhurst does this FAR more efficiently, than mere metal.
unless you can create thousands and thousands of thin layers, of copper-polymer-iron.


the biggest problem with the wimhurst, is preventing the electricity-mixing in the device,
from feeding back into the wheels.

where the electricity feed-back NEGATES the positive polarity stored in one wheel,
and the negative polarity stored in the other wheel.

this feedback KILLS the amperage,
that the whimhurst COULD produce.

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #128 on: December 22, 2008, 09:49:59 PM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #129 on: December 26, 2008, 05:14:09 PM »
Some more good news for the diode array research! -->
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=2.0

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #130 on: December 30, 2008, 04:02:18 AM »
A person on my website, although anonymous, claims to have replicated my 156 diode array that produced 10uV DC -->
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=102.0

More good news. Tonight was the scheduled 156 diode array measurement -->
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=2.msg246#msg246

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #130 on: December 30, 2008, 04:02:18 AM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #131 on: December 30, 2008, 06:18:41 AM »
It seems that if you could get the voltage up to above the 1.4v forward drop across the diode array then you could get some useful work out of the thermal noise (AKA Johnson Noise) on the diodes. By the way a guy from Hawaii (CB KUAI (misspelled) on yahoo groups) had a very similar design and as of a few years ago and actually had some chips made


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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #132 on: December 30, 2008, 05:00:10 PM »
It seems that if you could get the voltage up to above the 1.4v forward drop across the diode array then you could get some useful work out of the thermal noise (AKA Johnson Noise) on the diodes.
That's true, but it's also true that the diode never stops rectifying, even in the nanovolt region. Below the thermal voltage level, which is 26mV at room temperatures, the diode square law is rather accurate. Diode square law is part of conventional physics. Small signal diode modeling mathematics is found at -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/physics/dirtydetails/

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #133 on: January 03, 2009, 07:43:57 PM »
Last night was the scheduled 156 diode array measurement. As expected, it produced a DC voltage.

Some more good news occurred last night when Tom Schum wrote the following about his 32x32 1N34A diode array measurements -->

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I guess the data appears conclusive, but during the taking of the data the numbers jumped around so much I was confused.

What Tom is referring to as jumping around is +/- 0.2uV out of 1uV DC. As I detailed for Tom in email, his microvolt meter could only be responsible for producing roughly 0.02uV DC at most on the diode array, due to bias current. Tom's initial reasoning for calling the results inconclusive was based on the term "accuracy."  As explained to Tom, it does not matter if the results were 1% off or 50% off. The fact remains that his microvolt meter is fully capable of detecting the change in DC voltage when reversing the input polarity. There was no doubt that his voltage meter was measuring a DC voltage, but the exact DC voltage is more difficult to pin point due to the voltage meters output noise. So the next step for Tom would have been to take his diode array out to rural areas to verify that the DC voltage was not due to external RF signals.

As far as my electrometer, there are no such fluctuations. At most, on rare occurrences, it will fluctuation about 2uV DC, but usually does not fluctuation more than 0.5uV DC. Also, my electrometer resolution is 0.5uV DC, and the 156 in-series SMS7630 diode array has produced up to 204uV (0.204mV) DC.  Every possible effect has been explained in my web forum. Twelve months of always measuring a DC voltage while trying every different type of test to help explain where the DC voltage has led to one answer, that small signal semiconductor mathematics based on quantum physics is correct, that diodes *must* rectify ambient thermal noise.



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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #134 on: January 05, 2009, 04:21:17 PM »
I created a thread, title What to do IF you invent a "Free Energy" machine

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=120.0

 

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