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Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #90 on: December 12, 2008, 04:28:26 PM »
Ooops, the math. .. I'll show you mine when you'll show me yours... OK? ;D
But I already showed my math for a long time -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/physics/dirtydetails/

And you can also see my math in javascript source code -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/tools/customdiodedesigner/

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/tools/diodenate/

And spice -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/physics/rectificationanalysis/



Anyway, the math is "just" a tool, depending on the stuff you want to present or defend.... The physics (our current level of understanding of nature) clearly shows there isn't much to talk about actually breaking "The LAWS"...
And who told you that? There are endless debates occurring amongst conventional physicists on both quantum and classical mechanics, including the very foundations of quantum physics. Yes spinner, some very heated debates. Recently I was observing a heated lengthy debate regarding the new experiment on the lines of the single photon double split experiment, which questions the very foundations of QM.



Ok, with a decent proof, the world would change instantly
I'm uncertain what world that would that be on?  It's certainly not conventional physicists on Earth.  ;)



I'm not interested in your challenge... Why? Because I trust all those millions of technicians, engineers, physicists,... and the the rest of devoted individuals who were dealing with this kind of stuff in the past.
And who might that be?  Send them over here.  I've probably talked to them. Guess what? They can't show the semiconductor math to prove their claim. Even the claimed genius, the creator of LTspice, Mike Englehardt, says that the semiconductor mathematics shows that I am correct, that diodes would rectify Johnson noise.

Classical mechanics lasted 400 years! And I can assure you that quantum mechanics will have a much shorter life span. It's days are numbered. Same goes for the laws of thermodynamics.


If you're wondering why conventional physics is having difficulty with the diode effect -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/physics/stillunknown/



OK, I'll byte... Which math equation clearly shows the thermal energy gain  of a single diode (or PN junction?)?
Rectifying is a circular process, you need to observe it as such...
I came from the old school... Enlighten me, please... I'm prepared to learn!
I'll do even better. I'll show you the entire numerical analysis mathematics. Just go to the following web page, and have your web browser display the html source code. The html contains javascript where you'll find all of the mathematics -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/tools/diodenate/


PL

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #90 on: December 12, 2008, 04:28:26 PM »

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2008, 04:29:29 PM »
I forgot to mention that if you want to see a lot of mathematics then go to my custom diode designer -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/tools/customdiodedesigner/

PL
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2008, 09:26:18 PM »
Hi PL,

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/physics/dirtydetails/
“Solving the DC voltage produced by the above diode is solvable only by means of numerical analysis.”

I’m glad to learn that solving is eventually ...solvable  ;) but it’s finally of no help:
A diode does not rectify its own thermal noise. Period.
Moreover, for the sake of clarity: the noise of a diode is AC, not DC. Same period again.

Please prove the above wrong in an attempt to save the modeling, which is wrong. It’s the second time I kindly ask to show some references about the above.
And please show respect to thermodynamics as long as it is valid.

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Tinu

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2008, 09:26:18 PM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2008, 10:22:57 PM »

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The world would be more peaceful and quieter..?. Yes!



Since I was merely advocating that the outgassing of pessimistic naysayers be harnessed, and you, spinner, seem to be advocating that everyone in the world be made silent.....


Let me humbly suggest that you take that first bold step and watch for the world to follow.


Didn't think so....


TS

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2008, 10:34:50 PM »
Hi PL,

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/physics/dirtydetails/
“Solving the DC voltage produced by the above diode is solvable only by means of numerical analysis.”

I’m glad to learn that solving is eventually ...solvable  ;) but it’s finally of no help:
A diode does not rectify its own thermal noise. Period.
Moreover, for the sake of clarity: the noise of a diode is AC, not DC. Same period again.

Please prove the above wrong in an attempt to save the modeling, which is wrong. It’s the second time I kindly ask to show some references about the above.
And please show respect to thermodynamics as long as it is valid.

Cheers,
Tinu


Sorry tinu, but I've shown my math, and my experiments. You have shown nothing.  I'm uninterested in your ambiguous handwaving discussion.

PL

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2008, 10:34:50 PM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #95 on: December 13, 2008, 01:01:23 AM »
Hi PL,

I’ve shown you my physics.  ;D

Why are you so bothered?
Is it because you probably never considered that mistake about self rectification of own noise or because you can not explain exceeding Carnot? Of course you can’t exceed it. Nobody can.
Or may it be because you want to make a business in OU, a workable forum or something similar and I might jeopardize your marketing and recruitment campaign? Don’t worry; I won’t come into your forum. But for now you are the one here, promoting hardly a physical non-sense.

I’m not interested either in talking to you from now on. I still reserve my right to express my views for the members of this forum.

Cheers,
Tinu

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #96 on: December 13, 2008, 01:16:50 AM »
I’ve shown you my physics.  ;D
Sorry, I don't consider handwaving as "physics."



Why are you so bothered?
Is it because you probably never considered that mistake about self rectification of own noise or because you can not explain exceeding Carnot? Of course you can’t exceed it. Nobody can.
Or may it be because you want to make a business in OU, a workable forum or something similar and I might jeopardize your marketing and recruitment campaign? Don’t worry; I won’t come into your forum. But for now you are the one here, promoting hardly a physical non-sense.

I’m not interested either in talking to you from now on. I still reserve my right to express my views for the members of this forum.

Cheers,
Tinu

I'm not bothered by you what so ever, or your handwaving. ;D  If you ever decide to show some mathematics, then let me know. I have shown my math and experiments at my website. You have shown nothing but negativity and handwaving. Lets see your improved semiconductor mathematics. Good luck to you.


To other people. From day one of my research, which was posted at peswiki, I have clearly stated I will not accept money. I am not in the business of making money with my diode array or magnetic research, or my website, but to help this world as much as possible at my sacrifice. You will never find ads at my research website.


To *any* EE or physicist at a University, or any reputable scientist, I would be more than happy to allow you to analyze my diode array.


PL

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #96 on: December 13, 2008, 01:16:50 AM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #97 on: December 13, 2008, 01:23:24 AM »
Hi all,

I questioned from the beginning the validity of the so called proof of ‘diode array’ setup. There is no mathematical proof and the physics employed to understand the device has major cracks. Nonetheless, beyond everything the most solid and the ultimate proof is the experiment and we all could read that the experiments were a success, confirming the theory. Hence, I’ve just start studying the evidences.

But, there is only one very tiny chart(!) available at:
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/experiments/charts/linechart1.html

Although data is very summary, one may read bellow the chart:
“Before "day 1" in the above chart, the voltage was well over 100uV DC. The diode arrays DC voltage began to drop after rapidly increasing the diode arrays temperature by ~ 30F. After ~ three days the voltage fell to it's lowest point, 10.5 uV. For ~ 3 to 4 afterward, the diode array voltage increased by a slight amount. From there, the voltage began to increase at a faster rate. The data was not logged. “

The bold part unfortunately shows that the experiment does not confirm the theory and consequently, the theory shall be considered wrong. That’s because a diode matrix that would rectify thermal noise (which is proportional with the temperature) should increase its output voltage when temperature increases but the experiment clearly shows the opposite.

Sorry for the bad news,
Tinu

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #98 on: December 13, 2008, 01:26:55 AM »
Hi all,

I questioned from the beginning the validity of the so called proof of ‘diode array’ setup. There is no mathematical proof and the physics employed to understand the device has major cracks. Nonetheless, beyond everything the most solid and the ultimate proof is the experiment and we all could read that the experiments were a success, confirming the theory. Hence, I’ve just start studying the evidences.

But, there is only one very tiny chart(!) available at:
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/experiments/charts/linechart1.html

Although data is very summary, one may read bellow the chart:
“Before "day 1" in the above chart, the voltage was well over 100uV DC. The diode arrays DC voltage began to drop after rapidly increasing the diode arrays temperature by ~ 30F. After ~ three days the voltage fell to it's lowest point, 10.5 uV. For ~ 3 to 4 afterward, the diode array voltage increased by a slight amount. From there, the voltage began to increase at a faster rate. The data was not logged. “

The bold part unfortunately shows that the experiment does not confirm the theory and consequently, the theory shall be considered wrong.
That's just more of your claims that are void of mathematics.



That’s because a diode matrix that would rectify thermal noise (which is proportional with the temperature) should increase its output voltage when temperature increases but the experiment clearly shows the opposite.

Sorry for the bad news,
Tinu
More handwaving, as you clearly distort the truth.


Perhaps tinu's goal is to prevent people from replicating the diode array. :)  So how are they going to stop me when I build semiconductor fabrication equipment. Is that when I get a bullet in my head?


PL

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #98 on: December 13, 2008, 01:26:55 AM »
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #99 on: December 13, 2008, 02:07:26 AM »
Perhaps tinu's goal is to prevent people from replicating the diode array. :)

Mostly to inflate the ego by serving postings with bile as dressing. Not the only one in this forum. Please ignore (this posting also  ;D).

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #100 on: December 13, 2008, 03:22:52 AM »
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Mostly to inflate the ego by serving postings with bile as dressing. Not the only one in this forum. Please ignore (this posting also  ;D).
Thanks for the good advice. I'll just remind them, on occasion, that they're posting claims void of mathematics.

It's been 14 days since the last diode array measurement. I just took the measurement. I don't have time to post the number with the comment since I'm watching "Whale wars" and the commercial just ended.

Later,
PL

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #101 on: December 13, 2008, 04:50:28 AM »
Why does it work a all?  The diode array that is?

There used to be a nice replication of Tesla's Radiant Energy collector on the web - can't find it now but was a nice detailed experiment - successfull one at that.  Showed a nice slow charging of a cap for free.


You could probably see this charge building with a high impedence meter like a VTVM - I'll have to try that.  Energy collected would be related to size of collector and possibly to it's mass as well as it's elevation.

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #102 on: December 13, 2008, 05:07:32 AM »
Hi,

It works by rectifying thermal noise that flows in and out of the diodes depletion region. The diode is a dynamic resistor, where the depletion region varies depending on the amount of current. The idea that diodes do not rectify below a voltage threshold is utter nonsense. Any good EE knows full well that diodes rectify at *all* applied AC voltages. Below Vt, the thermal voltage, which is ~ 26mV at RT, the diode square laws is rather accurate, which states that the DC voltage produced by AC is relative to the square of the applied AC voltage.

BTW, you have to be very careful with such experiments because of radio waves. I have spent 12 months now, and have the system down well. Such measurements ***must*** be inside metal shields. I use at least two metal shields. The inner shield is ~ 7". The outer shield is ~ 1ft. Also, the diode array must be compact, no open wires that will pick up external fields.

I've conducted such experiments at countless locations in completely rural areas. In canyons, caves, long tunnels inside mountains. The measured DC voltages are real.

BTW, I'm still typing the big news, after Stargate Atlantis tv show, and it is BIG NEWS!

PL

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #103 on: December 13, 2008, 05:48:00 AM »
Place the entire device inside a soleneoid coil connected to DC of 24v vertical orientation - does the "thermal noise" increase?

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Re: "Smoking Gun" - finally!
« Reply #104 on: December 13, 2008, 06:51:24 AM »
As stated 14 days ago, tonight is the scheduled 156 diode array measurement. It was the big one, the one that could determine the mystery behind TEDE.

Big news for diode array research -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=60.0

PL

 

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