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gotoluc

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #555 on: April 10, 2009, 05:51:22 AM »
Hey gotoluc. Check this interesting LC (I would think it might work as LC not sure about those diodes) pickup coil setup. Do you know the frequency of your secondary pickup coil standing waves the one that you aim for? You could tune your secondary as LC with those (I would use tunable) 2 caps. If it is LC..

Here it is: http://hibp.ecse.rpi.edu/~john/hi_power_xtal_set.gif

Hi minde4000,

thanks for your post. I'm not sure I understand your question or how it relates to the crystal radio schematic ???

No need to explain as that may cause more questions as I don't know much about this stuff.

Thanks for sharing

Luc


   Hi Luc:
    Hey , have been really busy with the rally up comming here. Just realized I hadn't posted
the power factor file. See below.  Its a blast.!

thaelin


Hi Thaelin,

thanks for the power factor correction pdf.

Interesting to see and read ;)

Luc

gotoluc

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« Reply #556 on: April 10, 2009, 09:54:28 PM »
Hi everyone,

below is a new video I just made which is a test I would like to share. It is not quite on topic but I think it could be worked into Resonance.

What I am finding is if a certain size of Neo Magnet is introduced in a certain size opening of a Air Core Coil and is Pulsed with Sine Wave or  Square Wave the Magnet starts to Oscillates at a certain Frequency, nothing new right!... what is new to me is it started to reduces the Amp draw of the Coil and at a certain frequency I was able to reduce the input power by about 350% or from 79 milli amps to 23 mili amps.

I find this to be an interesting effect!... we also need to keep in mind that I'm using a off the shelve coil core opening and magnet I had. I am quite sure the effect can get much more efficient once we study it better and find the best configurations.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2qVcwJN9hY

Some of you maybe thinking what would happen if a load is attached :-\.... would it still show a reduction of current ???... and the answer is yes!   I did try it with a load and it definitely shows current reduction as the frequency rises. The load was a tinny 12vdc car dash bulb and the brightness of the bulb goes up as the frequency rises and the amp draw goes down to a point where the magnet can no longer hold in the core opening on its own and falls out if the frequency gets too high.

Please tell me what you think of this effect.


Luc


minde4000

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« Reply #557 on: April 10, 2009, 09:58:25 PM »
I wonder what is the perm magnet field frequency?

Cap-Z-ro

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« Reply #558 on: April 11, 2009, 12:00:10 AM »

That is very interesting Luc...have you considered the addition of a secondary coil to the mix also ?

Regards...


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« Reply #559 on: April 11, 2009, 01:14:59 AM »
That is very interesting Luc...have you considered the addition of a secondary coil to the mix also ?

Regards...


Hi Cap-Z-ro,

yes that is most definitely on the list to do.

The idea of exploring the use of a Magnet with Resonance came to me after concluding that resonance alone will not give extra energy but maybe by incorporating the flux of a permanent magnet with resonance would have more potential.

Also, Magnacoaster's system is supposedly using PM flux to boost voltage and amps, so why would it not work with resonance!

My video demo of the vibrating magnet is not even close to being at resonance. It is just to demonstrate that there is an interesting effect between coil and magnet using true AC. From what I know it's going to take a real large coil to resonate at such low frequency that a magnet can oscillate at.

Without experimenting we won't know though

Stay tuned.

Luc


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« Reply #560 on: April 11, 2009, 02:50:06 AM »
Just bought LCR meter to measure inductance so I should join you in a week or so. Sorry for stupid question but if someone could explain in simple word what does resistor do in LRC. I know inductors have their ohm resistance besides inductive reactance. Do I need to balance this out with resistor somewhere in the circuit? Gotoluc I noticed you put 0.68 ohm resistor and 66.8 ohm for your secondary. Could someone please explain more about how to balance lcr out? Some exemple with exect number should give idea how resistors or balancing works. Tnx

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« Reply #561 on: April 11, 2009, 04:45:57 PM »
Just bought LCR meter to measure inductance so I should join you in a week or so. Sorry for stupid question but if someone could explain in simple word what does resistor do in LRC. I know inductors have their ohm resistance besides inductive reactance. Do I need to balance this out with resistor somewhere in the circuit? Gotoluc I noticed you put 0.68 ohm resistor and 66.8 ohm for your secondary. Could someone please explain more about how to balance lcr out? Some exemple with exect number should give idea how resistors or balancing works. Tnx

Hi minde4000,

glad you're interested in the study of resonance :)

Resistance is not required in a LC circuit to make it resonate. However depending on the wire gauge and wire length resistance shows up in the L (inductor coil) mostly if you are using a thin wire and or a long length of wire.

The best performing LC circuit would have the less resistance as possible but then the wire is thick and the coil becomes large and all this copper is very costly :'(

Any resistance I may have mentioned would be the coils resistance or maybe a resistor I used as a load to be able to measure power output.

I hope this answers your question.

Luc

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #562 on: April 11, 2009, 05:07:58 PM »

gotoluc

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« Reply #563 on: April 11, 2009, 06:01:36 PM »
Luc

Mags and frequency[by -Marco-]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5540717206741162529

Chet

Yes Chet!... a great video ;)

Thanks for posting it here for those who may not have seen it.

Luc

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« Reply #564 on: April 11, 2009, 06:32:24 PM »
Interesting to note that all the action started in the 7 hrtz range...isn't that in the  neighborhood of the Schuman frequency ?

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« Reply #565 on: April 11, 2009, 06:47:40 PM »
Thank You gotoluc. I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out all that. Currently I am working on my meyer wfc  (almost done tho) and have few coils wound here too. I can make it resonate with some 350V peaks while pumping 15-20ac sine and some 220khz+. Good SG is really cool toy I should say. Still not much can do on either of my projects without inductance meter. 1 more week

The link that I posted a while ago with crystal radio setup its just to take a look at the secondary pickup setup. Maybe it would be more efficient that a single cap you have right now. Whenever  I will have my tools I will try to tap into certain harmonics with secondary pickup using lcr frequency tuning.


Keep it up you all

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« Reply #566 on: April 12, 2009, 08:33:43 PM »
Here is a type of "imposion" coil according to author used in simple overunity device. Impressive design :)

http://people.tribe.net/c8d7e521-fb6b-480a-b20b-f6518aa2e45b/photos/2a92216c-e488-4ecb-895a-a6bdc24686e9


And very interesting pdf regarding LC resonant permanent magnet utilizing amplifier research tuning into permanent magnet resonant frequency.

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Magnetic%20Resonant%20Amplifier.pdf

gotoluc

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« Reply #567 on: April 12, 2009, 11:15:08 PM »
Hi all,

please check this new topic I just started

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7230.0

Luc

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« Reply #568 on: April 13, 2009, 01:28:28 AM »
Seems like there is a overunity/underunity Q limit for every circuit. It says if one can reach sufficient Q levels system would become overunity. I just disconnected a gator grip wire between cap and coil and hooked cap right on the coil and only due to test gator cable resistance elimination voltage resonant peak levels jumped by some 100V. Imagine having some ultraconductor wire for inductor coil and some high grade cap resonating. Q levels would go tenfold... Btw what is that company called ultraconductos? Are they actually selling those 300.000 times less resistance vs copper having plastic wires? Since as some others state that Q level is critical in over/under unity in such a devices it also very important that your secondary pickup coil circuit would be impedance matched with primary resonant and not overloaded above its current delivery "safe" limits to avoid interference with primary coil Q level to drop below unity. Just and some info I found at panacea..

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« Reply #569 on: April 13, 2009, 01:49:30 AM »
Hi minde4000,

room temperature Ultraconductors would be nice to have but if you look at their site you can't buy some. Makes you wonder if this is real ;D

Good stuff though ;)

Luc