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TinselKoala

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #300 on: January 02, 2009, 09:36:44 PM »
Interesting videos, thanks for posting them.
I don't believe the power measurements are being done correctly, but everybody knew I would say that.

TinselKoala

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« Reply #301 on: January 02, 2009, 10:44:47 PM »
Meanwhile, I am still finding stuff to look at, when I finally get around to making some proper power measurements on my system.
Here's some more demonstration of lighting NE-2 bulb and LEDs with a single wire or open circuit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBUfaYi02WI

HeairBear

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« Reply #302 on: January 03, 2009, 01:21:40 AM »
TinselKoala, why do you think the added wire lights the lights brighter? Willbe was showing me some similar test just yesterday and we found that the colored alligator clips worked the best opposed to wire for winding. My guess is the insulation is adding capacitance, I don't know for sure. Have you tested an AV plug on the end of the wire? All these videos are very inspiring!

gotoluc

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« Reply #303 on: January 03, 2009, 02:04:13 AM »
Awesome stuff Luc!

Aum Sai Ram brother! 

2009 is going to be an amazing year....

Ben.

Sai Ram Ben,

thanks for your encouragement :)

Luc

gotoluc

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« Reply #304 on: January 03, 2009, 02:20:52 AM »
Hello all,

yes, this year seems to be a good one.

@wattsup

I really dont need a new diagram. Hmmmm.....to be honest I saw all your diagrams but I still think the best for me is to build TPUs, test them.....I have soooo many ideas, you cant imagine.

Just an example if you allow:  SM said in his way to use cores. A copper and an Aluminium core.

Otto

PS: Happy New Year. This will be a year of great discoveries here.

Hi Otto,

I would agree that an Aluminum core have an interesting effect on a copper coils and we should study this also. If anyone here has a Henry's inductance meter and an air core coil measure it and keep the meter connected and insert a piece of Aluminum in the center of the coil and observe a drop in inductance instead of an increase when using iron or other metals.

We still have much to understand.

Luc


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« Reply #305 on: January 03, 2009, 02:48:57 AM »
@Gotoluc

  Great explanations to humanity!

  Could you also explain the relation of  applied Voltage to the RC (Resonating Coil) and the output?  What if you play with input Voltage?

   Increasing the applied Voltage will increase Voltage on the cap linearly or exponentially?

  It seems you are receiving P = V2 / R = [0.8x0.8] / 10 = 0.064 Watts output,

  Can you let us know the input to the system?


  Why don't you utilize secondary wire as RA (Receiving Antenna) on the big Coil?

  Best Wishes.

Hi samedsoft,

thanks for the positive comment ;)

Once the coil is tuned as I demonstrated in the video the only thing that is limiting the output on the secondary pickup antenna is the 10 volts RMS limit that my signal generator can output. This is where Groundloop's  H-Bridge circuit can be used to further increase the voltage going to the resonating coil. More voltage IN the more voltage OUT on the load and at this stage of testing they seem to be directly related. The effects of higher input voltage can be seen in my earlier test 8 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBTSSHYrRJM

All Tutorials 1 to  5 are meant to help others to learn in a very short time what took me a few months to learn. It is not meant for calculating the efficiency at this time as many improvements will come hopefully with coil geometry and multi coil position amplification.

Hope this helps your questions.

Luc

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« Reply #306 on: January 03, 2009, 02:56:05 AM »
Hello all,

@gotoluc

as always a very nice video and explanations.

Maybe I forgot but how many turns has your big coil?

Otto

Hi Otto,

I did not make it, (off the shelf as is from store) so I'm not too sure but it looks to be about 85 turns and measures .815mH

Luc

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« Reply #307 on: January 03, 2009, 03:16:42 AM »
Great videos gotoluc! Video 4 got me thinking how much your setup reminded me of Tesla's wireless power devices. What would the readings be if your secondary circuit was an exact copy of the primary? If coil A resonates, then so should coil B if it is the exact copy of coil A. We could take it a step further and try using the same mass for each coil, but, with different gauges. For example... 1 pound(weight) of 22 gauge for coil A and 1 pound of 18 gauge for coil B.

How do you change or add capacitance to a self resonating coil without using/adding a capacitor? Or even how do you lower the inductance of a coil if you can't increase the capacitance?

Hi HeairBear,

your questions are related to what I had planed for my next testing stage. I want to test coils geometry, pancake coils cone coils bifilar coils identical tuned primary and pickup coils, plastic coated lamp wire vs. magnet enamel wire coils and so on. So you will need to wait some time for me to test this. I will post the video results as the tests are done.

Adding capacitance to a coil can maybe be achieve by using Litz wire and or having a really long coil wire. Lowering inductance can maybe done by adding Aluminum as center core. We also need to test all this.

Good questions tough ;D

Luc


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« Reply #308 on: January 03, 2009, 03:35:54 AM »
Hi gotoluc,

Nice job on this thread. I appreciate your work here.

I saw these videos a while back, he has done something just like what your trying to do here, I think they're worth a look.
 

Introduction to Resonance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xefg-EfC4Q

Resonance Continued
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2y9w9cbwcg

Proof of over unity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idey7O0WlU0

Interesting resonant wave forms from pulsed dc using a tuned LC circuit  - notice how the amplitude keeps going up as he increases the frequency to the next higher resonance level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW3JW4g0No8

Pulsed DC2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmKewxW8RA

So now the challenge is to put this extra power to work in a useful device.

Keep up the good work,

Thanks,

Shinz

Hi shinz62,

thank you for taking the time to add most of Overunity user: armagdn03 excellent resonance demo video's. Armagdn03 resonance Demo videos are what got me back on to pulsing coils again but this time I got good results.  I am very thankful of the work he has done and have acknowledge him at the first post of this topic and in other posts as he drops in from time to time.

Thanks for sharing ;)

Luc

armagdn03

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« Reply #309 on: January 03, 2009, 04:55:00 AM »
@ TinselK

The measurements done will give units in VAR or volt-amps-reactive. When dissipated into a load with power factor close to 1 (resistive) the power averages out to equal no increase. The purpose is to show use of reactive loads with a power factor as close to zero as possible. Transducers based on this principle produce the energy conversion ratios above 1:1. 

People paying attention will notice that less and less are we worried about conduction alone, but rather are interested in an interchange between seeming opposites in relative permeability (inductance) and permittivity (capacitance), which do not require the traditional circuit between positive and negative poles of the source. Such systems can be "open" as described by Gabriel Kron, floyd Sweets Mentor. For a good paper on the subject look up OSC theory By T.W.Barrett. Start thinking about building systems who are completely reactive through and through, if there is any dissipation of energy in a resistive or non reactive manor, you will have a difficult time.

I have continued development along these lines for quite a while now, and made this video along time ago. This is of course a out dated model compared to what is being designed now, however it shows concepts that have not been brought up as of yet. For those interested, before the use of the signal generator was deemed not necessary, the coil output more than the max power deliverable from the signal generator, not even taking into account the fact that only a fraction of that power was used in the input stages.  The loads shown are poor loads, not reactive based, and so the performance is severely stunted. 100 times more loads could be run on the same power, if the output had been reactive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNYUu1VL1aM (will fix link here soon as possible)


Take for example the power stroke of an electric motor, motive power arises during the inductive rise off the drive coils in the stator. According to the reactive power model, when the inductor is at maximum saturation in the LC resonance cycle average wattage is at zero because there is zero voltage at this point. However as was just noted, this is the portion of the cycle developing the most power in the stroke of the motor due to the maxed out magnetic field component. This means that the greatest power is developed at the portion of the cycle with least wattage, meaning our concept of power (the watt) is not the last word in power measurement or development.

This shows how to build reactive motors as only one example, motors such as the variable reluctance motor are a good starting point, Dr. Peter Lindeman has recently brough the reluctance motor back into scene. 
« Last Edit: January 03, 2009, 06:50:33 AM by armagdn03 »

gotoluc

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« Reply #310 on: January 03, 2009, 08:12:06 PM »
Thank you armagdn03 for all this information ;)

Also a big thanks for making this new coil setup and a great video demonstration showing different inductive loads being attached without the need to re-tune :o

Great stuff ;D ... thanks for continuing to help us all by sharing

Luc

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« Reply #311 on: January 03, 2009, 08:13:34 PM »
@everyone,

I just uploaded a new video "test 10"

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auFYEFBrwls

Luc

« Last Edit: January 04, 2009, 12:51:04 AM by gotoluc »

Cap-Z-ro

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« Reply #312 on: January 03, 2009, 10:27:30 PM »

Yep...you shouda took the easy out at 1st. :)


Groundloop

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« Reply #313 on: January 04, 2009, 12:48:15 AM »
Hi All,

I'm sorry to report that my fixed oscillator switch (najman100 PCB) will not work as it is designed!

I have soldered up the PCB and tested the circuit today. First I found a design flaw, pin 16 on
the CD4009 was not connected to +12 volt. This is easy to correct, just solder a wire between
pin 1 and pin 16 on the IC.

After I corrected some soldering errors (mine) then I got the circuit as described in the drawing.
But, I encountered another problem, the crystal oscillator will NOT run. First I thought that I
had used a crystal frequency that was too high for the 4009 so I changed the crystal to 4 MHz
just to check. Still the oscillator did NOT run correct. I then rechecked the data sheet for
the CD4009 and saw that the IC does not have smith trigger inputs. So the oscillator will
not run with this IC no matter what I do.

The rest of the circuit performs well so I will modify the circuit to use an external oscillator input.
Attached is the updated drawings for such a circuit.

Again, I'm very sorry to have made such a huge mistake and wasted time for everybody.
As I said, the circuit will still work with an external oscillator from a signal generator.

Groundloop.

gotoluc

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« Reply #314 on: January 04, 2009, 12:58:56 AM »
Yep...you shouda took the easy out at 1st. :)



Hi Cap-Z-ro,

I don't understand your comment ???... could you explain a little more of who or what you are referring too?

Thanks

Luc