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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #465 on: January 26, 2009, 01:53:10 PM »

Two days ago I discovered something new (to me anyways) to which I will share a circuit very soon.

I am able to get my coils resonating using only one wire as an input pulse!... no return and no ground!... how's that for efficiency ;D


There is a return to ground.

You are capacitively coupled to the circuit. It's the same principle in which a vertical antenna works. The vertical element is driven with no apparent ground connection however it is capacitively coupled.

In Tesla's Colorado Springs Experiments he discovered that the height of an elevated ball changed the capacitance of the circuit. Again an example of a  capacitive coupling to ground and the surroundings.


-Duff

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The vertical antenna may not be a very good example because ground is connected to a ground plane but the height of an antenna affects the resonant frequency through a capacitive coupling.

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #465 on: January 26, 2009, 01:53:10 PM »

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« Reply #466 on: January 26, 2009, 02:16:33 PM »
@Groundloop

I sent the files to my brother and will see what he says. I also invited  him to register here so he can ask you any questions directly.

Oh yeh - I like your web site. Lot's of goodies.

@gotolouc

Can't wait to get this reverse pulsing circuit cause I have lots of coils and stuff f to test with it. More fun. lol

@all

Oh, regarding my solenoid circuit, I changed the IRF840 and the circuit works perfectly pulsing that damn strong solenoid with some 100vdc - lol. Will try adjusting those pots today and see if they change the pulsing rate.

Now given the fact that I am a real pro at blowing mosfets (and even toasting breadboards - lol), I have found that for doing my tests, I now mount the mosfets on this three pinned terminal as shown below. This makes it quick and easy to wire into any type of testing. The question, is it possible to put four of these on the circuit board in case I need to change the mosfets and not have to deal with unsoldering what I know will blow at least a few times - lol.

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #467 on: January 26, 2009, 03:11:54 PM »
@groundloop

Which transistor did you end up using on the board?

You were trying to get the current down and going to try replacing the MJH11022 with the NTE2354.

Is the NTE2354 what you are using now?

I have to say that I hope not because those list for $14.09 each.... :o


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« Reply #467 on: January 26, 2009, 03:11:54 PM »
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« Reply #468 on: January 26, 2009, 03:50:39 PM »
      A wire has a bunch of free electrons near the skin of the coil.  You can do two things with this electron cloud.   You can accelerate a #of electrons at the contact point or the ones in the crystal that have an excess of electrons and transmit the power by randomized electron acceleration which causes heating in the conductor  or you can transmit a longitudinal emwave through the electron cloud.  Unresisted.  You drop a stone in a pool of water the water molecules near where you dropped the stone do not reach the beach.  But the reaction of the media does.  We are taught that in a conductor there is a flow of - charge  in one direction and positive charge in the other.   Now that's pretty obvious until along comes someone and says it's the electrons moving that is carrying the charge down to the end of the wire.  So what form of mass is moving towards the other end of the wire.  Or is it the lack of mass that is moving towards the other end of the wire.  Well that makes the lack of mass a scource of positive charge and mass a scource of negative charge.  So how is it possible to assign a proton a positive charge when it is a form of mass.  Probably because it weighs just a little tiny bit less than a neutron.  A proton is spinning while a neutron is just dead mass.  The charge of the proton arises from the lack of dead mass in it's near field.  The vacuum is altered in this near field or as Einstein postulated spacetime is curved.
More like the vacuum is condensed in this near field and the more lack of mass you have the higher the positive charge.  Which will move first in a conductor?  The lack of mass or mass? 

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #469 on: January 26, 2009, 04:53:56 PM »
@duff,

I recommend using HEXFETs in the circuit. The transistors does
not do a good job. On Luc's circuit I put the IRF840. Any N-Type
high voltage HEXFET will do fine. Remember the extra resistor
when using hexfets.

Groundloop.

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« Reply #470 on: January 26, 2009, 04:56:47 PM »
Hi,

I'm not really into electrical experiments, mostly magnetic. I started the TinselKoala thread in the Magnet Motors topic, hoping TK could shed some light on the magnetic characteristics of Tesla Bifilar Coils. But it seems he was more interested in electric effects and has been spending most of his time over here.

I still hope someday he will get back to the magnetic aspects. But in the meantime, I stumbled upon a book I thought you resonance guys might like. It was first published in 1991, but has been updated twice, most recently in 2001.

Homemade Lightning: Creative Experiments in Electricity
3rd Edition, 2001
by R.A. Ford
http://www.amazon.com/Homemade-Lightning-Creative-Experiments-Electricity/dp/0071373233

You can read parts of the book at Google Books:
http://books.google.com/books?id=RPWNfdCGYlIC

I hope you all find this interesting. The parts I was able to read online certainly look like it applies to what you're doing here. Just thought I'd try to contribute something to your efforts.

Have fun!
0c

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« Reply #471 on: January 26, 2009, 05:29:55 PM »
@OC

     Any moving charge alters the magnetic field.  The magnetic field is inertia expressed as an electrodynamic event.  You have the Earth and it spins and it creates the magnetosphere.  You got Venus it doesn't spin very fast at all  (one year one day)  no magnetosphere.   You got the Sun spinning two different ways split at the equator weird magnetosphere.   You got protons spinning magnetic dipoles.  You got electrons spinning magnetic dipoles.  You got a top spinning hmmm you got an inertia relativity.  You got a neutron it dont spin no magnetic reaction no electric reaction.  Just a big old dead sphere.  Like a black hole.

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« Reply #472 on: January 26, 2009, 06:05:08 PM »
@OC

     Any moving charge alters the magnetic field.  The magnetic field is inertia expressed as an electrodynamic event.  You have the Earth and it spins and it creates the magnetosphere.  You got Venus it doesn't spin very fast at all  (one year one day)  no magnetosphere.   You got the Sun spinning two different ways split at the equator weird magnetosphere.   You got protons spinning magnetic dipoles.  You got electrons spinning magnetic dipoles.  You got a top spinning hmmm you got an inertia relativity.  You got a neutron it dont spin no magnetic reaction no electric reaction.  Just a big old dead sphere.  Like a black hole.

So what are you trying to say? How does this relate to my questions about the magnetic characteristics of a Tesla Bifilar Coil? In fact, how does it relate to resonance effects? Please explain.

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« Reply #473 on: January 26, 2009, 06:40:39 PM »
     If you take a look at his bifilar coil with the input or primary wrapped around the bifilar coil.  You see a magnetic field compression that is flowing about the wire primary that is going in the same direction as the inward spiraling conductor field.
The primary windings voltage field produces a magnetic field response that moves from the outer area of the spiral to the inside of the spiral.  As it does it cuts across the conductors which induces a field in the next inner spiral which induces a stronger and stronger acceleration of the electric field in phase with the magnetic field.  The coil then because of it's capacitance to inductance match holds onto this magnetic field upset and when discharged should give quite a bit of energy gain.  I gotta build one to proove this but I have yet to see somebody on this thread do a bifilar wound secondary inductively pulsed with a primary.  Then short the coil and do some power measurements.

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #474 on: January 27, 2009, 04:45:09 AM »
@sparks

But then you have members like @GK who says the primary should be on the inside.
Tesla did it both ways.

@gotoluc

I found this web site that has s much good stuff to learn about coils.
Thought it may prove of some use or you may already have seen it..
http://www.coilgun.info/theory/home.htm

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« Reply #475 on: January 27, 2009, 04:57:29 AM »
Great site wattsup ;)

Thanks for sharing

Luc

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« Reply #476 on: January 27, 2009, 03:06:04 PM »
   @Wattsup

    When you look at Tesla's latter patents when he was developing the wireless transmitter system  he used his energy capacitor not a voltage capacitor an energy capacitor excited by an induced spike.   The entire bifilar wound coil which formed it's own resonant tank circuit of sorts stores energy.  It appears to the pulsed primary as a core only with no inductive or capacitive coupling to the primary.   It will not saturate it will just store the magnetic field disruption inititated by the primary.   As you hit it with more and more input it is the equivalent of inductively inputting into a lumped rlc resonant circuit.  He is basically compressing the magnetic field and capturing that energy and when it expands he is capturing that energy also.  Look at what happens when you use a choke and put an ac signal to it.  No current seems to flow but the magnetic field gets played with and causes the coil to induce a counteremf proportional to the input emf in phase and no current flows in the coil.  There was a movement of energy denstiy though but it was not an electron acceleration event.  It was a wave of energy density that went to the end of the wire and reflected back.  The transverse waves like you get from a regular oscillation were broadcast into the field of the energy capacitor.  The ecap remembers that wave just came by and stores the memory.   Over and over again this process goes on.  The ecap mass itself is now a standing wave field.   He extends the field of influence of this ecap which continues to radiate it's energy density information without damping itself.  A properly tuned receiver picksup reactive energy to the standing wave field without damping the primary oscillator/ecap.  The ecap is a virtual atomic neucleus of huge dimension.  The atom when it falls apart or damps emits emwave energy but while it has it's shit together it also lets the rest of the field know it is there.

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« Reply #477 on: January 27, 2009, 04:50:47 PM »
@sparks

Unfortunately I get what your saying (that's the scary part). lol

Regarding the reflection back form the end of the wire, this is not exactly the place to discuss this because it is @gotoluc's thread and we should keep it clear.

I think you are getting to the point where you should be working on a document, with step by step explanations, diagrams, etc., so you can get some of your brain power out in a cohesive and collected format. Just an idea. Or you can alsways ask @stefan to open a locked thread and put all your observations there so they are collected in one place and not spread all over the forum.

I have a question about the FTPU but will ask it in the Towards Realizing the TPU thread.

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« Reply #478 on: February 02, 2009, 05:04:51 AM »
Hi everyone,

I would like for all to post your opinion of the video demo below and honestly tell me what you think of the test.

Link to video: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=_tvbJJKlNvo

The fist set of Scope shots and measurements below are of a bulb as load set to 3 volts RMS but fed directly from the Signal Generator.
The next set of Scope shots and measurements are the same bulb as load set also at 3 volts RMS but fed by the secondary of the primary resonating coil to which is fed by the signal generator at the identical frequency.

I am posting all this to get everyone's feedback. Is this test showing any advantages using resonance?

Thanks for your time

Luc

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« Reply #479 on: February 03, 2009, 12:12:14 AM »
Luc,

In the first circuit, with the 1 ohm resistor in series with the bulb, you can look at is as a simple voltage divider.

I = E/R = .045V/1 = 45 ma

Resistance of bulb being
R = E/I = 3/.045 = 66.7 ohms

In the second circuit you removed the bulb from the circuit and inserted the primary winding. The impedance of the primary winding must be greater than the resistance of the bulb since the current went down.

I = E/R = .0219/1 = 21.9ma

I am somewhat surprised that there is 3 volts across the bulb in the secondary. I question whether the bulb still has a 66 ohm resistance - don't know but it is interesting.

Perhaps you could provide a little more information.
   1. Voltage out of the function generator
   2. Inductance of primary and secondary.
   3. Resistance of primary and secondary windings.

Maybe that will give us a few more answers....

As far as trying to close the loop you might look at the circuit that poynt99 uploaded yesterday. It runs on about 50mW.

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators v1.0.pdf
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item221



It appears to me that your testing the MRA concept without using the barium ferrite magnet and the piezoelectric transducer.

-Duff

 

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