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Author Topic: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE  (Read 297221 times)

sparks

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Re: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2008, 03:43:03 PM »
    @BEP 

      Would it be possible to produce a coil cap combination that becomes resonant at a near infrared frequency.  There is alot of infrared wave energy bouncing around and could provide the kicks necessary to maintain a resonant circuits losses.

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« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2008, 12:34:47 AM »
    @BEP 

      Would it be possible to produce a coil cap combination that becomes resonant at a near infrared frequency.  There is alot of infrared wave energy bouncing around and could provide the kicks necessary to maintain a resonant circuits losses.

'Near' Infrared?

Certainly not with conventional switch and wire circuitry. Right off the bat I can tell you an IR LED receiver/transmitter pair is resonant at IR.

You can get IR out of a coil/cap combo if you overheat them  ;D

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« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2008, 06:05:19 AM »
Hi everyone,

just finished uploading a new video test 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCxpZ_VZbRE

I just looked at the video and am so disappointed of the scope shots. You cannot see the details so I attached the scope shots below.

Luc
« Last Edit: December 12, 2008, 05:18:50 PM by gotoluc »

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« Reply #48 on: December 12, 2008, 01:30:39 PM »
Why ? It looks nice, just nodes are moving. Maybe this is not resonance but bouncing of longitudinal waves which create a lot of floating nodes.That would also explain what Tesla said : that it's very difficult to adjust for exact resonance frequency, not just to harmonic. There is only one longitudinal resonant frequency of coil.

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« Reply #49 on: December 12, 2008, 03:40:06 PM »
it look similar to Stan Meyer patent signal is like pulsed step up ,i know that you are in the testing mode but you need to unhook it from the variak and apply it to a lamp with determined wattage and see if at the source is consuming less .
Nice vid and explanation LUC keep up the Good work .

Najman

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« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2008, 05:12:36 PM »
@gotoluc

Good video. I think you were shoveling the same snow as me today. I'm north of Montreal. lol

The one layer coil is basically a mini tesla-coil secondary and it was good to see the gradual increase in energy from the neon. Just be careful with that neon. The way you were swinging it around, we will have to call you gotoluc skywalker. lol

Hi wattsup,

Thanks for the positive comment ;) ...glad to see you are so close to Ottawa. If ever you want to connect, pm me your info. since I go in that area from time to time.

Did you see the new test 6 video yet?

Luc


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« Reply #51 on: December 12, 2008, 05:16:39 PM »
Very nice work!

The effects you show (lights brightest at certain locations on the coil or particular coil wire) are the methods used in radio tech. Perhaps 'old tech' in radio - HAM.

If you were to increase the driving frequency you will find the peak point will change. Raise it high enough and you will have multiple peak points on the coil. These points tell you where the peaks and troughs of the wave are (nodes and anti-nodes).

Since there is only one end with the bright point and the other end shows nothing I would say your coil is equal to a quarter wavelength of the frequency from your circuit.

I can't say much about the heat of your components because one type of circuit the heat is expected when the tank is resonant where another type the  heat is unexpected.
 

Hi Bep,

thanks for looking at this topic and posting your positive comment and all this additional information ;)

Luc

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« Reply #52 on: December 12, 2008, 05:26:44 PM »
Why ? It looks nice, just nodes are moving. Maybe this is not resonance but bouncing of longitudinal waves which create a lot of floating nodes.That would also explain what Tesla said : that it's very difficult to adjust for exact resonance frequency, not just to harmonic. There is only one longitudinal resonant frequency of coil.

Hi forest,

thanks for your posts ;)...can't comment on what you are sharing since I don't know. I'm just playing around and learning as I go.

I also started a topic at the Energetic Forum: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3351-resonance-effects-everyone-share.html

Thanks for sharing

Luc

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« Reply #53 on: December 12, 2008, 05:33:16 PM »
it look similar to Stan Meyer patent signal is like pulsed step up ,i know that you are in the testing mode but you need to unhook it from the variak and apply it to a lamp with determined wattage and see if at the source is consuming less .
Nice vid and explanation LUC keep up the Good work .

Najman

Hi Najman,

the variac at this time give me ease of voltage tuning as I have found that it affects the frequency and characteristics of the resonant coil. But I will do as you say and remove it and replace with batteries only once I find the best setup.

Stay tuned

Luc

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« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2008, 03:30:22 PM »
Hi Najman,

the variac at this time give me ease of voltage tuning as I have found that it affects the frequency and characteristics of the resonant coil. But I will do as you say and remove it and replace with batteries only once I find the best setup.

Stay tuned

Luc

I will stay bolted to my seat waiting for your next vid  ;D

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« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2008, 06:30:30 AM »
Hi everyone,

I just uploaded a new video :)

I ask for your input to help solve what I maybe missing in my way of measurement in this test as I seem to be able to charge a 12,000uf cap bank (with 10 ohm load attached) to 3.12vdc in one second and cannot measure any current draw to achieve this ???

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETZaMrnIwxk

Thanks for your time.

Luc

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« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2008, 07:09:36 AM »
To anyone interested,

changes have been made to Groundloop's circuit. I have updated it on the page I first posted it: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6225.msg142894#msg142894  but I am also including it here.

Changes that have been made to the circuit are, connection pins of the 4013 flip flop, the diodes have been upgraded to an Ultra Fast, some extra caps added to the IR212103 and also a 220uf cap added at entry and the resistors have been changed from 10 ohm to 50 ohm in order to help keep the IR2103 cooler.

Thanks Groundloop for your continuous help ;D

Luc
« Last Edit: December 26, 2008, 11:47:32 PM by gotoluc »

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« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2008, 04:07:44 PM »
GNch.

Oh well. I just completed 90 percent of construction based on the "old" diagram. I might be able to get in there and rewire the 4013...

But the only driver chips I could find locally are the IR 2104, which is basically the same as the 2103 but the second input is an "inhibit". Shouldn't pose a problem as the chip should behave the same in this circuit. BUT:  I could only find it in the SOT package!! So another evening of tiny precision soldering to adapt them to DIP...

Thanks, groundloop and gotoluc!! This will be a very handy circuit for all kinds of things.

I wonder if one should insert a diode and/or capacitor in the input feed from the signal generator, to protect the 4013 inputs...?? And perhaps a current-limiting resistor and a fuse in the DC input line to protect the MOSFETs??

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« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2008, 06:27:39 PM »
GNch.

Oh well. I just completed 90 percent of construction based on the "old" diagram. I might be able to get in there and rewire the 4013...

But the only driver chips I could find locally are the IR 2104, which is basically the same as the 2103 but the second input is an "inhibit". Shouldn't pose a problem as the chip should behave the same in this circuit. BUT:  I could only find it in the SOT package!! So another evening of tiny precision soldering to adapt them to DIP...

Thanks, groundloop and gotoluc!! This will be a very handy circuit for all kinds of things.

I wonder if one should insert a diode and/or capacitor in the input feed from the signal generator, to protect the 4013 inputs...?? And perhaps a current-limiting resistor and a fuse in the DC input line to protect the MOSFETs??


Hi TinselKoala,

sorry for the changes. I had mine built 100% and had to make all the changes, which also took 2 days of back and forth emails and attachments of scope shots to Groundloop in order to solve some of the arising problems. Much of the basic trouble shooting has been done but we can continue to develop as we go.

The IR2104 should be fine ;)... your soldering iron better have a fine tip with a SOT ;)... they should of called them SOB ;D

Not a bad idea to add some protection.

I also think this circuit would have many uses :)... thanks for all your help Groundloop.

Luc

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« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2008, 12:40:21 AM »
Whoo--whoo!

groundloop's and gotoluc's H-bridge rocks hard!

I must be getting lucky in my old age, because I built it, and it worked properly THE FIRST TIME!

I didn't rewire the 4013, although the new wiring would have been easier to route.
I used the IR 2104, which I only had in SOT, so I carefully soldered them to machine-pin 8 pin DIP sockets (using magnifiers and a tiny pointed tip on the Hako). This chip has an inhibit function that turns off all output MOSFETs, instead of the inverting input on the 2103. It turns out to be a good thing! I wired the inhibit pins to a toggle switch, so I can now easily turn off all 4 mosfets without disturbing anything else.
I made some little sockets for the MOSFET pins out of DIP header sockets (since I want to be able to change MOSFETs easily).
I'm still using 1n4007s. The fancy diodes come in tomorrow. Had to buy 15, though. Used the 50 ohm gate resistors.
I put in a few more 0.1 mfd decoupling caps, and LEDs on the output to show polarity.

Performance is impressive. I did some quick tests using an 11.4 v LiPo battery as the logic power and the pulse power. Clocked with the Interstate F34 (note: your clock must be able to supply at least 10 v p-p to trigger the 4013). The output pulses are nice and square and symmetrical. I hooked it up to my LTLOT solenoid as a load, and drove it from less than 1 Hz to over 300 kHz, monitoring on scope. At the higher freqs there's a little distortion and inductive ringing (what do you expect? I used the "rat's nest" wiring layout method) but I noticed no false triggering or bad behaviour.

The LTLOT solenoid really launches the sliding magnets with this setup. The bridge supplied enough current to almost melt down my plastic tube and bobbin in just a few tens of seconds of running. Nice to have that inhibit switch! I suppose I should measure the current, maybe put a fuse in.
The MOSFETs stayed cool throughout.

I'll post a picture of the thing in a few minutes.

THANKS, groundloop and gotoluc!

I recommend this bridge circuit.