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Offline sparks

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« Reply #420 on: January 09, 2009, 04:14:22 PM »
    The electricity that lights the bulbs around Tinsel's tesla coil is not because of any electron movement.  The Tesla coil operates so that it becomes relavent to the ever present electrical polarization of space.  The bifilar wound coil pulsed  becomes an observer of this energy field.  The capacitance setup between the turns cancels out any counteremf due to the inductance of the coil.  You may look on it as a room temperature superconductor.  Very little energy is needed to align the electric dipole moments of the coil mass so that a huge gain in charge of the coil is achieved without alot of energy expenditure.  The coil becomes a radiant energy receiver as it represents an electrical sink.  When the coil is discharged it will give up alot more energy than it took to charge it.

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« Reply #421 on: January 09, 2009, 05:36:37 PM »
@Otto

  First of all I did not understand anything. Sorry for this.

  Can you explain how Gotoluc's system, when it's resonating, may have TPU kicks?

  I think resonance as bow or spring and TPU kick as your finger moving the wire to give extra oscillations!! Good analogy ha?

  Any way I believe Gotoluc has put forward the bow, now please combine it with TPU kick system and send us a video please.

  Best Regards,
  God Bless Humanity
  Nuri Temurlenk, TURKEY

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« Reply #422 on: January 09, 2009, 05:41:58 PM »
@Otto

        Do you think if I pulse a bifilar coil with x number of joules expended that if the coil is then discharged across a resistive load that the load will  do more work than just pulsing the load directly? 

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« Reply #422 on: January 09, 2009, 05:41:58 PM »
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« Reply #423 on: January 09, 2009, 06:18:42 PM »
@Otto,

thanks for posting this information. I have done many coil pulse tests with this kind of setup but at this time I'm hooked on resonance ;D  since I like the part that with a 30vdc input the switching MOSFET's don't need a heatsink and they don't even get warm while maintaining a 3vdc output on a 10 Ohm load.

I'll defiantly pickup some IRFP450 MOSFET's if I can afford them :P... since God knows you would know by now which MOSFET can take the most abuse ;D

Thanks for sharing

@slapper,

wow!  that is so cool to be able to program something like this Wavelength Visualization Tool together.

Thanks for posting and sharing your work ;)

Luc




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« Reply #424 on: January 12, 2009, 03:59:57 PM »
Dear Gotoluc,

  What's up ? What happened to you?

  We are looking for Full bridge rectifier system from you. Please use more coils if possible.

  You are the man!

  God Bless Humanity,
  Nuri Temurlenk
  Istanbul, TURKEY

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« Reply #424 on: January 12, 2009, 03:59:57 PM »
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« Reply #425 on: January 12, 2009, 05:53:11 PM »
Hi Tinsel! 
Great picture.
I have a couple of questions.

a) is your tesla powerplant basically a tesla coil?
b) when you put more lamps near the coil, do they still light with the same brightness as when you put one there?  I've just done a coil myself, and when I place three bulbs on my toroid they seem to light slightly dimmer than when i use just 1.  Obviously I was rather disappointed! 

PS.  Has anyone noticed that when you touch the bulbs AFTER the coil is turned off, they light once more for a few seconds.  Is this just the bulb discharging into the ground?  The same thing seems to happen if it touch it with a ground wire.

Thanks guys

Thanks, yes, the powerplant is basically a Tesla coil, but it is tuned somewhat differently. You will note that the capacitors are not of a value to provide power line resonance in the primary circuit, so the power transfer from the mains is less than what you would need for a "maximum spark length" TC, which seems to be what most builders are going for. The secondary is tuned to be a quarter-wave resonator at about 1.25 MHz, which is quite high for a sparking coil, and the three--element fixed-adjustable primary spark gap is turned right down to a miniscule little gap, so the energy in the primary circuit is much smaller than in a sparking TC.

I was able to pack a double-handful of CF lights near the coil; they all seem to glow at full brilliance to my eyeballs, but that's not a real measurement, I admit. This coil is in storage in another country right now, or I'd test it more comprehensively.

I think that "afterglow" is what you say, and also a result of your own body's built-up charge.

@sparks:
You might not be so wrong. With my static machines I often sometimes notice a peculiar phenomenon, also with the TCs but less noticeable: The things might be steadily sparking along, say once evey five seconds, with a nice purple ropy corona-like sssnapping discharge, then--every so often, once in a while, instead of this spark there will be a brilliant white lightning-bolt spark, with an explosive SNAP! sound that is much more definite and indicates a lot more charge movement than the usual sparks. It will be hard to prove, but I believe that these particular snappy sparks are incorporating, or entraining somehow, some outside energy, in excess of that provided by the machine's power source. I am relatively sure (but it is harder to show) that this happens in the Tesla power plant system as well.

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« Reply #426 on: January 12, 2009, 06:17:13 PM »
Tinsel Koala
You seem to be taking the path less traveled?[or am I misunderstanding?][your circuit design regarding the mains]

Lighting up Mitfulls of CF lights {I know this is not conclusive, but because YOU are showing this] Cool

Your contribution here is TOP SHELF

And I [and I am sure most] always look forward to your posts
   Thanks
   Chet

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« Reply #426 on: January 12, 2009, 06:17:13 PM »
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« Reply #427 on: January 12, 2009, 09:03:27 PM »
Thanks for the quick reply Tinsel. :)

Now i'm even asking the wife if she thinks one lamp on top is dimmer than three!  Would be nice to actually get some kind of data on how bright the lamps light.  Perhaps I was mistaken.  Here are a few pics of my lamps anyhow.  I must admit that tonight, when i took the pics, they seemed to be the same brightness.

I'm still very interested in explanations as to how the bulbs continue to glow AFTER the coil has been switched off, as long as they touch something.  It doesnt seem to matter if they touch the ground wire, my hand, or an object.  They continue to light up dimly at each contact for at least a minute after the coil has already been off, and it doesnt seem to matter how many times I touch them (this is what makes me think that they arent simply discharging.....Surely they would discharge almost completely on first touch).  I'll get a video on here as soon as I buy a video recorder (soon I hope!!!), as I know it would explain what im talking about a lot better than words.

Thanks for your time mate!

PS.  I was chatting with you not too long ago about Naudins E-motor, and you suggested that it could just be electrostatic induction.  I have to say that using the materials i have at hand (beer cans and kinder surprises) I'm in no position to prove other than this.  I'd like to get my hands on some high k dielectric materials to prove this wrong, as my instinct is still telling me otherwise.....anyhow, i'll keep you posted :)

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« Reply #428 on: January 12, 2009, 09:04:12 PM »
....and 3 lamps...

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« Reply #429 on: January 13, 2009, 03:52:54 AM »
Lovely! I love the coronas.

I use CFs with the power supply base removed, though. Just the naked bulb. I think the power supply could be short-circuiting some of your energy. Can you do a comparison with one bulb with PS and one without?

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« Reply #430 on: January 13, 2009, 06:23:58 AM »
Hello all,

Look at Gotolucs message 412. He wanted TPU kicks and I gave him my solution.

@sparcs

1. pulse first a 100W bulb. Result: nothing of course.
2. pulse a little coil, say, 30 turns, diameter of the windings maybe 12mm or 1/2" AND connect the 100W bulb in paralel to the pulsed coil. Result......
3. place a core inside the coil
4. use a cap for resonance
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There is a lot to learn.

Otto

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« Reply #431 on: January 13, 2009, 11:06:42 AM »
Lovely! I love the coronas.

I use CFs with the power supply base removed, though. Just the naked bulb. I think the power supply could be short-circuiting some of your energy. Can you do a comparison with one bulb with PS and one without?

I'm not completely certain I understand you Tinsel.  Do you mean that you dont put your bulbs in direct contact with your coil??  I sit my bulbs on top of my toroid, usually - but of course they do work within a distance of about 1 metre from the coil.  So I think you'd like a picture of a bulb sitting on the toroid, and one of a bulb just sitting nearby (or in my hand like your picture).   Correct me if i'm wrong and i'll take the photos tonight, when the baby aint home!

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« Reply #432 on: January 13, 2009, 02:44:38 PM »
Hello all,

Look at Gotolucs message 412. He wanted TPU kicks and I gave him my solution.

@sparcs

1. pulse first a 100W bulb. Result: nothing of course.
2. pulse a little coil, say, 30 turns, diameter of the windings maybe 12mm or 1/2" AND connect the 100W bulb in paralel to the pulsed coil. Result......
3. place a core inside the coil
4. use a cap for resonance
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There is a lot to learn.

Otto


    Thanks for the reply Otto.   Power equals volts times amps.  Now if you get the volts times amps alot of times then you have gain in power.  Pretty fundamental.

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« Reply #433 on: January 13, 2009, 04:38:39 PM »
I'm not completely certain I understand you Tinsel.  Do you mean that you dont put your bulbs in direct contact with your coil??  I sit my bulbs on top of my toroid, usually - but of course they do work within a distance of about 1 metre from the coil.  So I think you'd like a picture of a bulb sitting on the toroid, and one of a bulb just sitting nearby (or in my hand like your picture).   Correct me if i'm wrong and i'll take the photos tonight, when the baby aint home!

If your coil has any power at all, and you let the true Tesla discharge hit the glass envelope of the bulb, it will likely punch a tiny hole in the glass and let the gas out (or in, or whatever). I've ruined many glow-discharge tubes by this method.

But just lighting up the bulbs is way simpler, with the properly-tuned power plant. If your coil is truly broadcasting the power in the way that Tesla intended (I think...) you should see no corona at all and there should be no sparks to the bulb(s). My primary spark gap is closed almost all the way for this picture.

Like this: (an old photo; I'd do a new one but the coil is out of my hands right now)





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« Reply #434 on: January 13, 2009, 05:35:09 PM »
If your coil has any power at all, and you let the true Tesla discharge hit the glass envelope of the bulb, it will likely punch a tiny hole in the glass and let the gas out (or in, or whatever). I've ruined many glow-discharge tubes by this method.

But just lighting up the bulbs is way simpler, with the properly-tuned power plant. If your coil is truly broadcasting the power in the way that Tesla intended (I think...) you should see no corona at all and there should be no sparks to the bulb(s). My primary spark gap is closed almost all the way for this picture.

Like this: (an old photo; I'd do a new one but the coil is out of my hands right now)






Wow!  I havent managed to explode any bulbs yet - probably get me in a bit of trouble with the missus.  And my spark gap is about 5mm open.  I made the coil with the intention of increasing the streamer length, though I agree 100% that this wasnt what Tesla intended - Just a fun toy!  The streamers are just wasted energy. 
I'll try shortening the spark gap over the next few days, and playing with the length of the primary coil - just to see what results i get concerning the lamps.  I'll see if i can get rid of the corona, and light as many bulbs as possible....Wish me luck!
In a week or so I'll pick up a video-recorder and show you what I mean about the after glow of the lamps after being in the vicinity of my coil. 

Do you think, then, that a properly constructed coil demonstrates OU because the output power involved in lighting the bulbs exceeds the input power to the coil?  Have you tried building receiver coils to tap this OU???

Thanks again guys, for all your inspiration  :D

 

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