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« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2008, 08:30:22 PM »
@marco

I didn't see the corona unless the lights were out. The majority of it was the coils. The lowest I could make a coil resonate was mid 35k. The corona was greatest then and in the dark the coil looked like a very weak fluorescent tube. You had to let your eyes adjust first.

It all took a lot of power and I had no measurable rotation so I strayed from that course. I never lit any bulbs with it except NE1's and 2's and gas tubes.

I don't bother with line frequency or multiples. I ruled that out a long time ago.

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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2008, 08:38:46 PM »
I'm running a test now to search for frequencies that resonate with the aether and/or Earth's mag field.  The test is done inside a 7 ft x 3 ft x 3 ft faraday cage.  The assumption is that the frequency of the aether itself would be well above the blocking limits of the faraday cage, so the aether would go right through it, into the  testing area.  Then, IF transients are the result of interaction with the aether or Earth's magnetic field, the size of the spikes at certain frequencies should be larger than the ones around it, as certain frequencies come into resonance with either of these possible sources.  I'm using a 4G sample/sec DSO with a separate square wave generator, both of which are controlled via computer from a program I wrote.  The program sets a certain number of pulses per second, gives the DSO 2 seconds to settle in and calculate the readings, then stores those readings on the computer and moves up to the next frequency.  The wire between the square wave gen and the DSO is 6 ft long, pointed straight to magentic north/south and is suspended in the middle of the faraday cage.  Once I have tangible results, either way, I intend to start a new thread with the results.  Any suggestions as to testing methodology would be greatly appreciated.

PS The test bed is aprox 100 feet away from a power line, but not one of the very-high voltage long-haul lines.  The pictures look to me like they're of the latter sort. Plus obviously the power line field should not be inside the faraday cage, so it may help determine where SM's power could be coming from ( or not coming from).
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« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2008, 09:24:15 PM »
Now Mr.Mannix isn't verry cooperative lately.

He makes me remove my posts and talkes to others about privacy.
I am glad EM devices posted these pictures and i do not believe it is a coincendence these powerlines lines are there.

Which brings me back to Mr.Mannix.
It seems as if he doesnt want certain things to come out.

I have found one quote from Steven that proves he knew these lines were there.
As a matter of fact he even knew these lines had a diffrent frequency.............

Here it is:

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Speed of the electrons across the surface of the wire is part of the key in my conversion process.
In this country the electric companies are now converting to long range transmission using high frequency alternating current instead of the ancient 60 cycle system used throughout most of the world for the last 100 years.
I do not know if this will be helpful to you or not.


What are the chances a normal person knows the frequency of the powerlines nearby?

Or better said what are the chances a normal person knows the powerlines above their home have a diffrent frequency then the ancient 60Hz?

Why do you think Steven mentiones this?

@Mannix,

Why did you leave it out of the orgional mail??
You knew didn't you??
Are you trying to play us ?
If you still think this isn't about solving things, you are wrong.
And i'm not going to remove it this time.
I just don't understand that you cannot see it's value.
Deliver the whole story ,or deliver nothing.

Marco.






« Last Edit: November 23, 2008, 09:48:19 PM by -[marco]- »

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« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2008, 09:26:09 PM »
Since this thread is completely off the rails anyway, I'll throw one more thing out as food for thought.  I mentioned at one time that there was part of my theory of TPU operation that, to my knowledge, had not been considered previously.  One thing that keeps sticking in my mind is that during some of his tests, Tesla said he was 'creating electrons'.  No doubt statements like this only added to the ridicule heaped upon him.  However, I believe he was right.  How could electrons be 'created'?  With muons.  Think about it.  Muons come flying in from space at faster-than-light velocities.  This is proven by their speed measurements and resulting time-dilation.  They come in from all different angles and at all different speeds.  As they slow down, they break down into a photon, and electron!! and other quantum particles.  Muons are the most highly-concentrated non-atomic particle at sea level.  Normally they have to go at least 60 feet underground before they break down into an electron, photon, etc.  However, if there were a way to slow them down enough so the breaking-down occurred, for example, above a TPU (say by a dielectric field expanding, X-number of times per second, at faster-than-light velocities), then if there was an absence of electrons in a collector coil, because the electrons normally in the wire were at that moment pushed out away from the wire, then one could capture these newly-created electrons in that vacuum.  Kinetic energy from the speed of the muons themselves would be transferred to the dielectric field, causing it to collapse with more force than it expanded with.  After the muon deteriorated into its component parts, we would gain an electron, as well as the energy from the newly-created photon.

Some things support this theory.  I think it's no accident that Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower had a grounding plane that went several hundred feet into the ground.  If he were trying to capture muons as they converted into an electron, photon, etc., it could be done most effectively at a depth of 60 feet or more.  The second thing that I believe supports this idea is that the Muon-G experiments determined that 225 Khz was the most effective frequency with which to capture muons, given the magnetic field strength that they were using.  As I recall, SM said something once about how hard it would be to find the frequencies AND voltages....not just frequencies.  He also mentioned that his tube amp would go up to 245 khz maximum, so it's in the same general range.  To effectively capture muons, one would need the right magnetic field strength (determined by voltage), as well as the right frequency (which would determine how many times/sec the incoming muons were 'pushed against' by the expanding dielectric field in order to slow them down and keep them in the area so that when they broke down, the muon components would be in the area, ready to be harvested.  Too strong a mag field, or too many pulses/sec would push the components away, and too weak of either would let them fly right on by into the earth.

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« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2008, 11:19:11 PM »
Quote from SM:

"Speed of the electrons across the surface of the wire is part of the key in my conversion process.
In this country the electric companies are now converting to long range transmission using high frequency alternating current instead of the ancient 60 cycle system used throughout most of the world for the last 100 years.
I do not know if this will be helpful to you or not."


I don't think this information is accurate.  I just talked to a friend who works on power transmission lines for a living.  He said as far as he knew, all power transmission, at least in the US, runs at a frequency of 60 Hz.  He said the long-haul lines run at much higher voltages (kilovolts) but none that he was aware of ran at any frequencies other than 60 Hz.  If you think about it, rf frequencies would turn the lines into antennas, dissipating more energy as rf, resulting in higher losses over a distance.

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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2008, 12:01:19 AM »
In the late 80's I heard there were transmission (power line) experiments at 400 Hz. This required the use of motor-generator sets. Last I heard the costs were too high and the tests were limited to large military bases. I know we packaged very large 400 Hz diesel generators that had the added value of variable frequency for an Air Force base. They were likely used as a central power source for multiple aircraft.

I can see no way frequency change alone could bring any value to this concept. The thought that any portion of the grid was running at a different frequency seems possible but not likely at all. How could a 60Hz and another frequency system be coupled at such high voltages and power levels?

Stepping voltage up and down is common but frequency? Sure, it can be done at small power levels even without active devices but high power? That would be a great breakthrough alone.

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« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2008, 01:18:24 AM »
Since this thread is completely off the rails anyway, I'll throw one more thing out as food for thought.  I mentioned at one time that there was part of my theory of TPU operation that, to my knowledge, had not been considered previously.  One thing that keeps sticking in my mind is that during some of his tests, Tesla said he was 'creating electrons'.  No doubt statements like this only added to the ridicule heaped upon him.  However, I believe he was right.  How could electrons be 'created'?  With muons.  Think about it.  Muons come flying in from space at faster-than-light velocities.  This is proven by their speed measurements and resulting time-dilation.  They come in from all different angles and at all different speeds.  As they slow down, they break down into a photon, and electron!! and other quantum particles.  Muons are the most highly-concentrated non-atomic particle at sea level.  Normally they have to go at least 60 feet underground before they break down into an electron, photon, etc.  However, if there were a way to slow them down enough so the breaking-down occurred, for example, above a TPU (say by a dielectric field expanding, X-number of times per second, at faster-than-light velocities), then if there was an absence of electrons in a collector coil, because the electrons normally in the wire were at that moment pushed out away from the wire, then one could capture these newly-created electrons in that vacuum.  Kinetic energy from the speed of the muons themselves would be transferred to the dielectric field, causing it to collapse with more force than it expanded with.  After the muon deteriorated into its component parts, we would gain an electron, as well as the energy from the newly-created photon.

Some things support this theory.  I think it's no accident that Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower had a grounding plane that went several hundred feet into the ground.  If he were trying to capture muons as they converted into an electron, photon, etc., it could be done most effectively at a depth of 60 feet or more.  The second thing that I believe supports this idea is that the Muon-G experiments determined that 225 Khz was the most effective frequency with which to capture muons, given the magnetic field strength that they were using.  As I recall, SM said something once about how hard it would be to find the frequencies AND voltages....not just frequencies.  He also mentioned that his tube amp would go up to 245 khz maximum, so it's in the same general range.  To effectively capture muons, one would need the right magnetic field strength (determined by voltage), as well as the right frequency (which would determine how many times/sec the incoming muons were 'pushed against' by the expanding dielectric field in order to slow them down and keep them in the area so that when they broke down, the muon components would be in the area, ready to be harvested.  Too strong a mag field, or too many pulses/sec would push the components away, and too weak of either would let them fly right on by into the earth.

This is VERY VERY interesting  I had not seen this before. It does need it own thread
Thank you for your positive input

Lindsay

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« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2008, 02:15:04 AM »
Thanks @Lindsay for your compliment.  Muon harvest is one of 3 working theories that I'm currently working to prove or disprove.  The reason you haven't seen the muon theory anywhere else is that, as far as i know, it's entirely my own, and now I'm giving it out to the public domain.  The test I outlined above is designed to filter out any external influences except for muons, Earth's mag field, and the aether.  I've also written up my aether theory but haven't posted it because it's based entirely on the bible.  I thought it'd be best to start out with the parts that would cause the fewest possible number of people to label me as crazy and move up from there lol. In any case, each test run will take several days to complete, so I'll start a new thread as soon as I have something tangible to post, besides theory.

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« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2008, 04:36:04 AM »
Even simpler...
Since the distance from the wires wouldnt enable any appreciable power harvest, the devices could simply work off of 60hz resonance. The ringing goes so much farther in time and distance. I had posted 2 years ago that the SM17 could be a receiver / transmitter and that the SM4 & 6 could be receivers.

The line towers will actually ring the Earth. The crystaline structure of the marble floor in the house would also see that.

Now is it illegal to harvest the ringing from the power company? Plug in a microwatt 60hz oscillator in an outlet farthest away from the junction box and the whole circuit leg will be alive. That makes it a transmitter. The receiving device is a loosely coupled air inductor. Match the load and you have power to drive. In others words, don't match the wattage in and out. Simply match the resonance.

Wth power lines that close SM paid too much for the property. I don't and never will live next to things like that.

--giantkiller. Simply Tesla. Still is.

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« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2008, 11:51:52 AM »
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!!!!   LOL

perhaps this is where sm went WRONG!!  :D


lol

all the good stuff comes form the same place ......

ist

1 freq 2 freq 3 freq....  20 ferq   IT DONT  FREQ 'IN MATTER   lol 


you want to do somthing USEFUL.... post wire lengths.......  tuned

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« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2008, 12:29:34 PM »
I still don't think the power came from utility lines but I find this interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_DC_Intertie

I put out some feelers to a few contacts still in the industry. They all asked why I didn't consider DC. It seems DC is one method of bulk power transmission.

No skin effect, corona, harmonics and other AC problems. Interesting possible effects from the firing of the switching? This still can't explain how SM could come up with it away from the area of such a line.

It might be interesting to reproduce these actions in a toroid.....

P.S.

The powerline/house photos posted clearly indicate the lines are NOT part of the DC Intertie so they will NOT be DC lines.

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« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2008, 02:46:40 PM »
I have asked Stefan to move this current topic (SM energy from power lines) starting with EM's post #39 to a new thread.

If you continue to post here, keep the subject on the power line issue until it is moved so that Stefan will not have to sort posts.

Lots of good information (and some rather bad info) coming forth. All things should be considered as part of due diligence, but in the case of the power lines, using scientific method, not conjecture because it is testable. I will post more on this subject when it is moved.

 Neolystic:

Thanks for the new (Muon) theory. Perhaps it should also have it's own thread. Also, it would be interesting to hear yourr other two theories

Kind regards...HD

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« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2008, 03:42:57 PM »
In the long video, the one that shows a couple of small TPU's at the end, SM mentions that the devices have been tested successfully at 15000 feet in an airplane. 

(SM may have also stated that they have been tested on a boat at sea - have to look again to confirm this.)

So much for the power line theory, but it was a fun read.




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« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2008, 04:12:23 PM »
Hi all,

Interesting theory about the Muons although to my knowledge they cannot exist longer than a few mircoseconds and are actually created in the upper atmosphere by another process of other incoming particles.

Of course the strange time dialation effect was noticed because these Muons only last a couple of microseconds in the upper atmosphere and could never exist long enough to get down here.  However, we do detect them down here!  The reason is that they move at the speed of light, so from their point of view they have only lived for a couple of microseconds.  But from our point of view they have existed for much longer due to the dialation effects!

You can call a muon a heavy electron!

SM once mentioned about "what if you could speed up electrons to the speed of light".

I have often wondered about having one end of an oscillating circuit in another time frame, what would be the result of the circuit as a whole?

 ???


Regards,

Dave.

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« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2008, 07:50:28 PM »
From here you can find some interesting articles, how a wireless power transfer from HV power lines can be possible, and data transfer in HV power lines for automated meter reading.

http://www.dce.fe.untz.ba/ISPLC_Suljanovic_final.pdf

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13093-spy-planes-to-recharge-by-clinging-to-power-lines.html

Esa