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giantkiller

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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2008, 05:13:35 PM »
As the device mixes / heterodynes with the bigger matching wave it becomes larger and the tuned device receives it. And the wires are how close?

The gate in front of the house is gone. How was this address arrived at?

In the videos where the TPUs are cut up there are 2 young men aiding that look to be 20-25. That would make them 30-35 now. One with black hair and one with brown hair.
After these 2 guys saw this do you honestly think they are retail clerks or car mechanics? There are a few here that fit the age group and are incredibly intelligent.  And how did these 2 become involved? The black haired aid has curly hair too. There is also a Fisher-Price train toy in the Foray by the front door. It is on a ring and when this toy is running, it toots, in a circle...

Also: people have been holding fluorescent bulbs up in the air and having them light up since the seventies.
In the sixties the ufo sightings were mostly by power lines.

--giantkiller. These is always more to this puzzle.
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2008, 05:32:32 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2008, 05:42:30 PM »
Since this thread is already off track, it's time to end the nonsense and blow a big hole in EM's theory.

It should be obvious that SM did not live in that house from the beginning days of his research and development of his device. He only ended up in that house because UEC put him there, or because he could then afford it at the time.

Obviously he had the technology working BEFORE moving to that fancy house, otherwise he would not have convinced anyone to invest in the technology and afford him the handsome retainer he enjoyed.

So, that blows the "power-line, energy-sucking idea" to smithereens. ;)

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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2008, 05:49:11 PM »
Does not  ;)

The only thing that can blow this idea are bench tests (near powerlines  ;D ) and you know it.

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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2008, 06:15:26 PM »
All the videos were done at the mansion, under the power lines.  The only exception is perhaps the demonstration performed for Dr Schwinsinger, or whatever his name was.   He said that SM came to his office at UCIrvine.   Should I look for photos of UCIrvine and see if there are any nearby power lines? 

The technology which SM developed still has some merit, since it is not that easy to tap into the power lines, but there are no doubts what is happening is due to the proximity to those lines. 

Marco, that was a very interesting video.  So much E and H fields there.  No wonder SM got cancer being so close to those lines.   I guess one can make the argument that stealing electricity from the nearby high tension lines compensates for his/hers medical bills later on in life !  

Marco, don't get any funny ideas now.  LOL  :)  ,  seriously, if any of you are inclined to experiment under power lines take precautions ask others first, for their opinions, etc..

EM
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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2008, 06:37:23 PM »
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, of course the videos were done at the mansion.

That should be obvious, and it should also be obvious WHY.

The point was and still is that it does not matter where the videos were done, or that there are power lines near the house.

SM had the technology working before he ever met one investor and before he had one extra dime in his pocket because of the technology.

That alone should make one stop, think, and reject this theory.

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PS. Apologies to HD.

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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2008, 06:40:14 PM »
Tell you what...

I live near lines too.(3 of them)
Whenever i turn on my frequencie counter without any leads attached, it picks up 50 Hz.(battery fed)
Whenever i try to do ELF experimenting this 50Hz signal is dominant and i always wanted to get rid of it because i cannot see other things that are around because of this.

I can hear this signal on every radio in my home, the buzzing sound.
I can pick it up on any piece of metal it is the strongest signal present.

I need to get the heck out of here.

Marco.

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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2008, 06:44:38 PM »
@poynt99,  whether SM had, or had not the technology before, does not matter,  what matters is the fact the demos were done under a high tension power line.

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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2008, 06:48:13 PM »
@poynt99,  whether SM had, or had not the technology before, does not matter,  what matters is the fact the demos were done under a high tension power line.

EM

Whatever guys. Believe it, convince yourselves of it, and debate it 'till the cows come home if you wish, it does not matter to me. I see HD has left in disgust and I can't blame him.

Think I'll do the same.

Have fun.

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« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2008, 06:48:27 PM »
And this doesn't matter ;)

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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2008, 06:56:16 PM »
There is an access road right by the mansion, as you can see in the photos.  I think I'll go by and take some electric field measurements  for new years, then once we have the specs, let's have a contest to see who can duplicate energy extraction in those conditions.

EM

P.S. Looks like he's almost at eye level with the power lines in the back of his house.


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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2008, 07:02:45 PM »
@EM

A valid theory.

@Marco

Agreed - bench tests prevail. I moved from my last place 20 years ago because of the fear that HV power lines MAY have an effect on my young children (one of several reasons).

My current location only has street circuits running 7200v. I could not make a fluorescent light work from them - forget an incandescent. Maybe not enough circuit load?

About ten years ago I thought these devices may work by leaching power from lines so I loaded my test into the truck and parked under the nearest lines. About 6 miles from here - at night. I had good light because I just stuck 4 8 foot tubes in the ground. I knew that would work well - it did.

When it came to trying an incandescent - no joy. I spent several summer nights trying to find a way to make useable current. I even tried my weird coil design that forced resonance at ELF.

Even if the power came from the lines I would like to have that knowledge because there is said to be a great deal more energy (volts per meter) between 90 and 175 km up.

I've spent most of my working life working with and around the full range of transmission, switching, and generating devices, of all types of power from LV DC and AC to AC @ 150kV. I have seen nothing that can light an incandescent light unless it is very close to a high power source.

A long time ago I ruled out conventional inductive and static coupling.



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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2008, 07:12:03 PM »
@HEYDUDE

Do you see any way it could happen or reason to consider....

The beam/beams deflected far enough to pass through the yoke or divergence coils? In the really old color sets I thought it possible since they used an external metal shroud as part of the acceleration method.

The other thought is we all know what Lorentz does for charge when moving thorugh a magnetic field. The older sets had an odd looking delay coil wound on a grounded copper core. Do you have any experience with that core loosing the ground connection?

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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2008, 07:12:04 PM »
     I thought I saw a demo in what appeared to be  a motel conference room.  This is the one where he had some sales person say the thing was running on one cylinder.   Well back to the imploding TV and a little of Roberto's work that I find interesting: Roberto was very interested in the very low frequency drift of the bias voltage between the two collector windings.  (I think that is what he had on his dually scope)  It looked to me like a time variant response to the kicks saturating the common torroidal core.  One was floating up and down his oscope.
Now if this floating bias starts to float real fast around 5000 hz or so we see that the response of two conductors to a common magnetic field density change is a scource of voltage.  If the kick is produced so that it results in being totally choked by the time it gets to the end of the torroidal solenoid winding we get saturation changes inside the torroid without current flowing,  just a pressure wave.  This makes the output ripple dependent on the diameter of the choke, (another bit of history discussed on this board.)    Now inside this choke is two copper windings and their response to the core sat is different or relative.  This would be the same deal SM alluded to when he mentioned  transformers pulsed with a common signal that are slightly out of tune produce a voltage between the parallel circuits.  Someone tuned me in to the Daniel Cook patent of 1871 where the reflex of two transformers rings enough to act as a DC battery as well as dually electromagnetic solenoids.  We just need to change the magnetic field around a conductor once to get voltage at the ends of the wire..  When mother nature changes the field back to the way she wants it we get the other 1/2 of the induction story.  This collapsing magnetic field does not come at the input energies expense.  Two kicks for the price of one.  Do this right it's thousands of kicks for the price of one as mother nature pushes the swing just at the right time for us and we draw off the air the kid is displacing on the swing.  Woosh Woosh Woosh Woosh.  Remember that noise.  I didn't even understand that I was heating up the chain and wearing away the shackles or bending the frame or the shock waves down in the footings of the support structure.  Just going out to play on the swing set and get some resonance going.  Tesla's pancake coil bifilar deals are self-resonating lc tanks at some very high frequency between being a capacitor and an inductor.  So damn fast it appears static in our time incrementation but not on the energy space time quiver frame of reference.

      Sorry Heydude this is moving this thread back a little.  Hopefully the child killed didn't live in an apartment under some power lines this would really pull the plug on this thread.

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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2008, 07:26:12 PM »
BEP,

I have seen the same things you talk about, fluorecent tube lighting up fine and filament bulbs didnt give a glimp.
Thing started to change when i started to use high frequency and extreme turn ratios.
I have used 1:100.000 transformers at 10Kv maybe more and these were running at 35Khz, and it did light up a 60 Watt filament bulb to full brightness.

It was strange because on the one end it didn't do antything to the bulb while at the what i call "extreme stepped down" side it lit to full brightness using no rectifying circuit or anything else..
But it did not light up imediatly, it needed some time to heat up, and before it heated up the bulb was streaming blue corona everywhere like a plasma globe, sort of.
So it turned from blue light at first to a brilliant white light.

I got zapped many times by the wires ,but i could hold the low voltage wires between my fingers to see corona between the wires and my fingers without giving me a shock while the bulb was lit, and this looked strange to me.

This was all intresting experiments and these were the ones that stayed with me because strange things happend, that is strange things i could not explain.
It seems i will have to look into my drawings from that time and do some more tests.

Marco.