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Gobaga

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« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2008, 05:11:05 AM »
Quote from: EMdevices on November 25, 2008, 04:58:56 AM
Harmonic resonance on parallel high voltage transmission lines
Harries, J.R.; Randall, J.L.
Power Delivery, IEEE Transactions on
Volume 12, Issue 1, Jan 1997 Page(s):477 - 482
Digital Object Identifier   10.1109/61.568274

Summary:Harmonic resonance has been observed, measured and modeled on parallel 500-kV lines that are about one wavelength at 2100 Hz, the 35th harmonic. A seemingly small harmonic injection at one location on the system causes significant problems some distance away such as telephone interference

I've given you a new direction forward, but I see people are in love with their fantasies.  Happy dreams, may the muons be with you!!!

EM

Power lines can not explain how the TPU could operate in an aircraft at 15000 feet, or how it could operate on a boat floating in the Pacific Ocean (boat is a guess - still have to check that).
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« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2008, 05:30:24 AM »
@EMDevices

With respect, what new direction, exactly, are you suggesting we take?  Should we move to threads that do not contain the name of SM?  Switch to projects that try to take advantage of the same basic principals as the TPU was 'supposed' to operate on but drop everything having to do with the TPU itself?  That may in fact be a reasonable course of action.  Or are you saying we should give up trying to understand OU altogether?

Maybe the TPU was faked, maybe it wasn't....but if we gave up every time some charlatan in search of  investor riches rather than OU came along, where would we be?  OK...admittedly we'd be about where we are now anyway lol...with lots of theories and nothing that 'really' works.  I for one applaud your diligence and the information you brought forward.  Is the information demoralizing? You damn right it is.  Did it need to come out?  Absolutely.  However, for me it's about the search, and whether or not the TPU was faked is irrelevant.  I choose not to let one maybe-or-maybe-not fake discourage me into giving up the search for OU, in whatever form that eventually becomes manifest.

- Neo
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« Reply #62 on: November 25, 2008, 08:11:47 AM »
Quote from: BEP on November 25, 2008, 02:56:57 AM
@jordas

When you use 'c' do you indeed mean speed of light in a vacuum or speed of light in the conductor?

Either way it seems the coils 'C' driving frequency would be very high???

I'll buy the 'relativistic' rotation.

>>Edit...

Interesting notion: I understand the relative vectors are all that really matter. 'c' in a wire is much less than 'c' in a vacuum. Drive the coils 'C' with a simple multivibrator or 555 setup with only two outputs - alternating. Two outputs because there are two sets of 'C' coils. All we need then is to make the frequency 'look' like it is travelling faster than current 'could' travel in that 'A' wire and we break the sound?? barrier?

Even when coils are right angles to each other there is induction, of a sort. The only thing induced is the rise and fall of the driving signal. In this case (A surrounded by C) only one is induced? The rise or the fall?

I tried this all before in different ways. Guess I never hit the right frequencies  :(

I mean the vacuum c.About the driving freq of C, if the magnetic field or vector (or name it as you wish) would only just rotate at c you'll not have any induced current inside coil A because for the coil A nothing will be varying, so there must be rotation(virtual full flux-grey lines) and pause (less flux) and so on.
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« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2008, 08:20:46 AM »
BTW, my diagram would explain just the easy part.Let's see how one can get the initial field pattern (the red-to-blue line), in the classic setup you'll get both poles in he same plane as the quadrature and that will not work. ;)
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« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2008, 11:08:23 AM »
well  it seams possible to tap 60hz ...   but aint that theift ...... :-\

but it all so seams possible to rotate coils through switching and collect what comes back.....   basic stuff here   

it all works in theory and i dont think it breaks any laws of physics.....

but i just cant seem to get it to work .....   :P do to my laque of electronics back ground

sure get lots of zaps tho  ;D   yes they hurt....

another future project of mine .... ;) :)

it dont look hard  ......

what the flux.....  lol   the time machine...  ;D

i read in a magizene some rings are currently running on borrowed time i have the article i should post a pic....    :o   lol lol


IST!

none of you guys read magizenes any more .....   hummmmm.....   lol  :D
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« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2008, 11:32:59 AM »
One theory I have heard about SM's TPU is that he always did his demonstrations near some form of radar. 
The TPU just collects radar energy and converts it into usable electricity.
Some have analyzed the audio on his videos and picked up the sound of airplanes taking off.
This is what I heard about it but I hope it's not true, I hope he really has found a way of tapping into a new energy source.

I read somewhere that someone did something like this as a scam attempt,.
The man had a display setup on a table in his farm yard, and when it came time to do the demo,
he signaled his wife to turn on a microwave oven with the door taken off.
The display unit captured the microwave energy and ran some devices on the table.
Someone got wise to what the farmer was doing and his scam was exposed.
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« Reply #66 on: November 25, 2008, 11:53:55 AM »
Quote from: AbbaRue on November 25, 2008, 11:32:59 AM
One theory I have heard about SM's TPU is that he always did his demonstrations near some form of radar. 
The TPU just collects radar energy and converts it into usable electricity.
Some have analyzed the audio on his videos and picked up the sound of airplanes taking off.
This is what I heard about it but I hope it's not true, I hope he really has found a way of tapping into a new energy source.

I read somewhere that someone did something like this as a scam attempt,.
The man had a display setup on a table in his farm yard, and when it came time to do the demo,
he signaled his wife to turn on a microwave oven with the door taken off.
The display unit captured the microwave energy and ran some devices on the table.
Someone got wise to what the farmer was doing and his scam was exposed.


Hi all,

I think these microwave questions have gone around many times.  Give the rate of drop off and the amount of power taken from the TPU and the distance a transmitter would need to be...  If the transmitter was far enough away to be hidden and not kill the operator, the TPU could not collect and output 20kW.  If it was close enough, you would have to be totally insane.

I dont believe this much power can be collected from a high voltage line or a microwave transmitter.  I am not saying the TPU is a fake.  But if its, it is not done this way.


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« Reply #67 on: November 25, 2008, 11:57:45 AM »
Quote from: jordas on November 25, 2008, 08:20:46 AM
BTW, my diagram would explain just the easy part.Let's see how one can get the initial field pattern (the red-to-blue line), in the classic setup you'll get both poles in he same plane as the quadrature and that will not work. ;)

Understood and not a problem  ;D
This is where two or more coil sets would be required. Or perhaps, flip one half of A so A just 'thinks' things are ideal.....

I see now why low turn count in A and C. Too much in A gives it more circumference to cover. Too much in coils 'C' and you have self-defeating self-inductance and less speed. Maybe I'm way off again but this fits exactly with my experiments with LF resonance of small coils.
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« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2008, 01:12:32 PM »
So a 17 inch diameter A coil would require a frequency of about 1 billion cps? If so, I won't be picking it up with my hands  :)
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« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2008, 02:14:19 PM »
Quote from: EMdevices on November 25, 2008, 04:58:56 AM
Harmonic resonance on parallel high voltage transmission lines
Harries, J.R.; Randall, J.L.
Power Delivery, IEEE Transactions on
Volume 12, Issue 1, Jan 1997 Page(s):477 - 482
Digital Object Identifier   10.1109/61.568274

Summary:Harmonic resonance has been observed, measured and modeled on parallel 500-kV lines that are about one wavelength at 2100 Hz, the 35th harmonic. A seemingly small harmonic injection at one location on the system causes significant problems some distance away such as telephone interference


I've given you a new direction forward, but I see people are in love with their fantasies.  Happy dreams, may the muons be with you!!!




EM

http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/docs/00/31/78/54/PDF/angeo-23-2107-2005.pdf

There are experimental reports indicating that radio waves from long electrical transmission lines may leak into near-
Earth space and modify the space environment (e.g. Bullough, 1995; Parrot and Zaslavski, 1996).

Radio waves in the very low frequency (VLF, 3–30 kHz) and extremely low frequency (ELF, 3–3000 Hz) bands can interact with cyclotron resonant Van Allen radiation belt electrons near the equatorial zone.
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« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2008, 03:22:04 PM »
Why did the TV explode (implode)?
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« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2008, 03:22:06 PM »
  I think that everyone with any kind of electrical background must agree that energy can be stored in a magnetic field.  So when the power company changes the magnetic domains in a transformer core they have stored energy in it.  The impedance of the primary is matched so that very little CURRENT passes through the primary at no load conditions from the secondary.  The secondary current draw alters the core saturation parameters and more current flows through the primary as a result.  The thing to notice here is that the core is going to change it's saturation parmeters no matter if a current is drawn on the secondary or not.  Magnetic potential energy is stored in the core of the transformer and this magnetic energy is not the result of current it is the result of Voltage.  So in the weak magnetic field of the Earth there is stored energy but very diffused.  What if the television set was creating a magnetic tornadoe.  The magnetic field is a liquid field.  The hall effect proves it ,  Leeskalin proved it,  when they make a permanent magnet they proove it.  Geomagnetic storms prove it.  There is something flowing along magnetic lines of  force.  So what if this something goes tornadoe?  Now the diffused magnetic energy of the Earth field is relavent to the  little magnetic whirlwind we got going inside the tv.
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« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2008, 09:53:05 PM »
Here's your imploding tv story.

An electricity surge that sparked small fires, caused appliances to go haywire and temporarily displaced hundreds of residents was caused when a line to overhead transformers snapped, fire authorities said Monday.

The source of the outage was a transformer near the intersection of Dorchester and South Elder streets, Nieman said.

The energized electrical wire from the transformer collapsed and touched cable television equipment at the eaves of homes, said Nieman.

The result: a surge of electricity into a few dozen homes, and in some cases, straight into appliances.

Cliff Lorenzen was in his kitchen baking cookies when the line collapsed. His sons Anthony and Michael, ages 12 and 8 respectively, were watching television when they heard what Anthony called a “popcorn-popping sound.........”

Sounds Familiar? ? ?

That happend close to where Steven lived at the time....coincedence?? i think not.

Source: http://articles.latimes.com/2000/nov/14/local/me-51623

Case Closed.

« Last Edit: November 25, 2008, 10:19:54 PM by -[marco]- »
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« Reply #73 on: November 25, 2008, 10:02:17 PM »
Oregon Vortex?

Watch how the DC line crosses the 3 Phase AC lines at that percise spot....
3 Phase? yes 3 phase....

Didn't Steeve visit that place? i bet he saw the lines and the rotating compass and the dream was born.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Pacific_intertie_geographic_map.png)
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« Reply #74 on: November 25, 2008, 11:03:33 PM »
Do you have another explanation?
Steven said hed visited the place ,saw the rotating compass, and then rents a mansion near the same lines and builds a rotating energy device...

Follow those high power 3 Phase lines, they travel directly through the back yard of the famous demo house.....

Seriously ,go figure.

Marco.
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