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Peterae

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #135 on: November 27, 2008, 11:37:49 PM »
Wasn't the open TPU demonstrated in a totally different location some small office maybe Spherics lab.
Also he would have to have originally been experimenting under power lines to develop a receiving system in the first place and i bet he couldn't afford the luxury house at that time and therefore rules out the discovery being developed in the house the films were made.

I personally believe the answers we seek to the construction of the TPU lie in the missing video of the spinning compass, this video to my knowledge has not surfaced and i am sure there is good reason for this, it probably make the true operation a lot clearer what ever it shows, does anyone know anything about this video.

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #136 on: November 27, 2008, 11:49:47 PM »
ITS ME AGAING WHIT MY  " CAPS LOCK" 

I READ I SEE  YOU SAY THERE IS  POWER LINES WIRE FOR ELKTRICS  CLOUSE   S,M>

HMMM IS SIMPLE  GOING THERE  AND MAKE  BEFORE  YOUr <<TPU>>
   AND  STOP THERE   CLOUSE  <,S.M> HOUSE  AND TRAED THEN <<<DID  WHILL  START YOUR  TPU   

IF YOU DONT  THEN  TRAED TO FIND  S.M THERE  AND  ASK HIM TO  MAKE  <<TPU>> ;D ;D ;D

 :D :D :D      ;D     ;D       ;D   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #137 on: November 28, 2008, 12:13:48 AM »
Wasn't the open TPU demonstrated in a totally different location some small office maybe Spherics lab.
Also he would have to have originally been experimenting under power lines to develop a receiving system in the first place and i bet he couldn't afford the luxury house at that time and therefore rules out the discovery being developed in the house the films were made.

I personally believe the answers we seek to the construction of the TPU lie in the missing video of the spinning compass, this video to my knowledge has not surfaced and i am sure there is good reason for this, it probably make the true operation a lot clearer what ever it shows, does anyone know anything about this video.

Unfortunately the spinning compass video was never released....

Hmm,maybe Lindsay Mannix can tell us more about it ?

Lindsay, did you ever get it or at least have you seen it yet ?

Many thanks.

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #138 on: November 28, 2008, 12:44:45 AM »
Stephan,

I do not have that video, I  would like to see it just like you.

I can say that that demonstrations were carried out many times at over 6  diffrernt locations including aircraft.

Aparently, the garage where the two stack unit was demonstrated was at his house at the time.

Perhaps this meltdown and change of sherrif government will allow other,less centralised  energy systems to come into common use.

I thought this thread was about house hunting

Lindsay
 

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #139 on: November 28, 2008, 12:51:40 AM »
I can say a lot about the politics of it,  but leaving out the fact that there happens to be the largest power grid HV line in his back yard, just a few feet away, smells as incompetence or outright deceitfulness.  You pick.

SM has said to us at one point that the energy can come from the power-lines, or maybe we should say the energy comes from the power lines, or something to that effect........   I just can't find the quote anymore.   

I already calculated the amount of energy I can get from being close to the power lines, and it's huge!!!

more to come...

EM

P.S.  Here's a chart showing the Power Line Harmonic RF energy in it's proximity.  Notice all the horizontal lines equally spaced.

P.S.  A table of capacitor values for the ones seen in the SM videos,  notice the very low values for series resistance.

P.S.  The theory of how it works, just rough calculations.  Also notice the amount of current some of the capacitors can handle !!!  Also, in the videos he brings a magnet over,  that magnet will bias the ferrite and changes it's inductance so it tunes a bit better.  These are high Q devices and so they can easily detune.
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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #140 on: November 28, 2008, 02:04:04 AM »
   Power companies rectify long runs to get rid of selfinductance losses of the transmission lines.   ???  The kicks from the diode transient dip when your talking megawatts can be quite disruptive to the field.  I lived near some high tension lines once until one foggy night my electric meter was outlined in blue corona and the truck I was going to get in.  Between that and the microwave towers on the same hill powering up remote phones with no batteries in them I got the hell out of there soon as the lease expired.

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #141 on: November 28, 2008, 02:07:37 AM »
@EMdevices

As soon as you try to load a device the Q of the device will go down to a very low value and impedance matching won't help.
This is a very basic stuff.

Kames.

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #142 on: November 28, 2008, 02:14:12 AM »
By the time you get up to 6kHz on your spectrogram (which is not shown, but probably very dark in color, meaning weak), there is very little "signal" to capture with the tuned loop antenna.

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #143 on: November 28, 2008, 02:20:18 AM »
I spent so much time on this damn project and yes I'm mad.  But one man's incompetence (SM) is no excuse for me, I should of checked this out first.  The simplest explanations are almost always the correct ones.  But I doubt SM was just incompetent like Jack Durbin has said, he was outright devious.

EM

p.s. kames,  the FTPU was demonstrated unloaded,  but you right if loaded the Q will change, however there are tricks one can use.  this is by far not fully figured out, as he seems to use the vertical wires around it as well, perhaps transmission line used as resonator, or some other exotic principle.

p.s.  Rload gets transformed when the device is loaded, and as kames said the Q suffers, which implies that we need a high winding ratio to minimize the Q loading effect.

Also,  he could be using one of the loops on the bottom or maybe another loop we can't see as being separate from the two stacks,  to pick up the magnetic energy.  this is the magnetic coupling way of doing it, instead of using the ferrite as the output transformer and the main inductance.
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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #144 on: November 28, 2008, 02:48:16 AM »
go measure the RF around power-lines before you open your mouth.

I spent so much time on this damn project and yes I'm mad.  But one man's incompetence (SM) is no excuse for me, I should of checked this out first.  The simplest explanations are almost always the correct ones.  But I doubt SM was just incompetent like Jack Durbin has said, he was outright devious.

EM

p.s. kames,  the FTPU was demonstrated unloaded,  but you right if loaded the Q will change, however there are tricks one can use.  this is by far not fully figured out, as he seems to use the vertical wires around it as well, perhaps transmission line used as resonator, or some other exotic principle.

p.s.  Rload gets transformed when the device is loaded, and as kames said the Q suffers, which implies that we need a high winding ratio to minimize the Q loading effect.


Honestly, I don’t believe in such tricks. Here is from my own practical experience. A wire (it was a communication/signal cable tested on a single wire), about a mile long, almost under, under the 100K power line in the afternoon can give away about 500 watts.
Here is another one, also from a practical experience. A rail (railways) a 13 km long under a 3K electric line gives out about 100 watts.
Do you really want to spend your time on testing the power lines theory?

Kames.

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #145 on: November 28, 2008, 03:11:47 AM »
@BEP

   How about capacitively coupling to the 60hz wave right on the other side of the meter.   ;)

That could be done. I've done it but not right after the meter. A set of capacitor plates the size of the base for the large TPU would require an extremely thin dielectric between the plates. Say, the base of the TPU as one plate, the table top for the dielectric and the second and third plate (or more for the washboard effect) - I can imagine a couple of watts transferred but no more. My test worked quite well but there was nowhere near 800 watts passed through it.

Did you see the light brightness change when they moved the TPU? I didn't. It certainly would if that method was used.

I learned enough from that to not consider it as a way to fake the large TPU and certainly not the others.

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #146 on: November 28, 2008, 03:53:48 AM »
I talked tonight with a friend that work on a power line company, he tell me we can power a TV under the HV line without any input, I did not ask how he was doing that, I will ask next week! (i was playing bowling, so I did not have time to talk to much about it! :))

Also he tell me it quite easy to charge up capacitor and use the current from it. I suppose it just a mater of using coil/diode and capacitor. Anyway you already know that!

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #147 on: November 28, 2008, 03:59:39 AM »
  @Bep

     I know but maybe SM will get some adrenaline rolling and give us another tip on his "not a free energy device"   Time and time again he stated that it will replace battery technology.  Any chance this baby is consuming fuel?  Betya some mass under that black tape aint what it was before it runs the light bulbs.

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« Reply #148 on: November 28, 2008, 04:02:42 AM »
I talked tonight with a friend that work on a power line company, he tell me we can power a TV under the HV line without any input, I did not ask how he was doing that, I will ask next week! (i was playing bowling, so I did not have time to talk to much about it! :))

Also he tell me it quite easy to charge up capacitor and use the current from it. I suppose it just a mater of using coil/diode and capacitor. Anyway you already know that!

well they at least should know how to fill a cap by NOW from HEMF...... 

and if they cant i really dont know what the hell to say ...lol   :)

and if they do not know by now this engery does not come from the source of power to activite the ring  i dont know what to say

I CAN NOT SPELL IT OUT ANY SIMPLER ...  LOL

sorry i have done my best some choose to be where they are ....  :)

my days of guessing are LONG PAST..... ;)

ist!

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Re: locating Steve Mark´s TPU demonstration house
« Reply #149 on: November 28, 2008, 04:24:42 AM »
What it all boils down to is 'could it have been faked?'

The answer is 'sure!'. I think there has been enough chatter on this forum about how it could be done. Some great detective work and imagination has popped up on this forum just to understand how it could be done.

Khabe is completely correct about the net radiation on a polyphase line. Unless the loading of that line is very unbalanced (phase to phase and phases to neutral) there will not be much radiation of energy unless you are so close you are too close for safety. You should find there is more than one reason why the phases are side-by-side and not one above the other.

Even considering possible issues with ground fault currents, unbalanced loads, inverter firing pulses from the DC-AC stations(heavily filtered) this idea isn't flying for me right now.

Do I believe it was faked?

No.