There is an "elite" section of the board ?! Elite posters want to now remove their posts if the board is opened?!

..may I say "WTF?"

When are we going to stop these segregations among each other? Haven't we seen enough divisions throughout the history?

So, hundreds of other members are now not good enough for the dozen or so "elite" members who have access to the closed board? Is this another "I am better than you are" thing?

I find it appalling to even consider a "special" section for "special" people, and now to learn that there *actually* is a section like that here...well this is a sad day for me.

Why even bother trying to bring the Free Energy to the World when there's a small group of people here, apparently with ulterior motive, working behind the scenes on whatever agenda they might have. What other reason for secrecy?

Oh yeah, let's hear it, from the "elite" members?

Don't bother...I'm calling BULLSHIT no matter what you say because no excuse you give will be honest.

This only reminds of of those douchebags, our "leaders", that meet at Bohemian Grove every year, where they go into seclusion to "unwind" and relax away from the prying eyes of the public and debate the "fate" of the World.

AARGH !

Stefan, this is VERY disappointing and disheartening to learn...

Amigo,


"Come ye out and be separate, lest you be partakers in the plagues to befall babylon." - Yeshua, Jesus Christ


Chaos = anything goes.


Celebrating mediocrity guarantees a melting pot with a lid on it.  Those who attend bohemian grove are chomping at the bit for a revolution that they themselves are working toward, in order to more fully establish worldwide neo-facist-communi-zionism.  

a New Whoreld Order, that anyone can join......


Or else.


Paying to join the YMCA or to witness the efforts of dedicated alternative energy researchers for that matter, is a far cry from supporting the compromised ideals of elitist power mongers....and should be made available without prejudice to any who wish to show genuine support for the effort.  Certainly the term: "elite" or "elitist" has come to denote arrogance, even evil intent, but whose doing is that?  


Personally, I look forward to the day promised by Christ:


"They will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat their fruitage. They will not build and someone else have occupancy; they will not plant and someone else do the eating. For like the days of a tree will the days of my people be; and the work of their own hands my chosen ones will use to the full.” - Yeshua, Jesus Christ


But until then, even an unequal sharing of the pie is better than an equal sharing of the crumbs, no?  


Imagine a group where ALL members DO....not just WATCH and YAK.  I think every forum on the internet should have a "neophyte" grace period.  All who do not DEMONSTRATE that they've learned something within a reasonable period, move on and tax the bandwidth of a site downstream.  This is not to say that I'm against tolerance, free speech is an important right.  And who can, in good conscience, decry civil discourse no matter the subject, when it is so easy to simply avert one's gaze from the text?  Actions speak much louder than words.  Those who fear words, fear reality.  That being said, I feel even civility, as imperative as it is for unity of any kind, should not be allowed to breed entitlement.  It should be, and was in former time, naturally expected in society.  How far we have fallen.


A paid section of the forum with greater privileges and benefits available to all members who pony up an extremely reasonable positive contribution of one form or another, is neither elitist nor segregatory.


It is fair.  Wise, in fact.


Blessings in Yeshua,


TS

@Stephan & ALL

You know the real way to have an honest discussion is to know who is present in the discussion, none of this BS pseudo naming crap that goes on. Everyone in the world can find me on Google and see a picture of my home and my phone number is listed.

So lets cut to the chase, get rid of the crap by knowing WHO they are and available to the public, stop allowing the hidden posters that cause all the trouble and allow a listing of all those LURKERS.

Now do this and I will pay and I would participate, BUT I do not think this is possible..........


Dr.S.

@Stephan & ALL

You know the real way to have an honest discussion is to know who is present in the discussion, none of this BS pseudo naming crap that goes on. Everyone in the world can find me on Google and see a picture of my home and my phone number is listed.

So lets cut to the chase, get rid of the crap by knowing WHO they are and available to the public, stop allowing the hidden posters that cause all the trouble and allow a listing of all those LURKERS.

Now do this and I will pay and I would participate, BUT I do not think this is possible..........


Dr.S.

Well, I could setup a new board in the forum,
where only people,. who show their address and their picture could post.
All the others could only read.
Also the users who  could post there could be selected for instance only by invitation.

So let me know a list of users you want to have there and I can set that up this way or also for
your Stiffer-inventions board.

Many thanks.

@ Stefan:

I really like Dr. Stiffler's idea.  Please count me in.  I would post any experiments I do under my own name and, I would also comment on others work, and ask questions using my own name as well.  This is an excellent idea! (I wish I had thought of it)  This probably won't stop all of the crap but I believe it would cut down on it by about 95%.  This would allow the serious folks to keep up the all important information exchange that makes this site so great.  As I said, please count me in.

@ Dr. Stiffler:

Excellent idea sir.

Bill

Dr. Stiffler's idea seems good on the surface, but what is going to stop someone from just picking a random name/address out of a phone book and using it?  If someone wants to disrupt things for whatever reason that's all it takes.  If they got banned all they'd have to do is pick a new name and start over.  I think most everyone will agree that the biggest problem is that a thread starts out with a topic, and within a few pages we've covered half a dozen or more topics unrelated to the original thread.  Throw in a few blowhards who are convinced they know everything (but where are their working devices?), and it becomes a pissing match to see who can run the most people off.

I think the only answer is for the author of the thread, or other designated representative, to pre-screen posts to make sure they are respectful and on-topic.  This of course is not without its own problems, but if threads were set up this way, minimal 'filtering' would actually be required on the part of the thread author, because people wouldn't bother trying to post an off-topic, disruptive, or disrespectful comment in the first place, if they knew it'd never make it through to the thread.

As an adjunct to this, there could be one or more threads where people could post whatever they like without moderators.  This would allow the people who seem bent on making fools of themselves to do so without adding inconsequential drivel to a thread's specific topic.

Im ready to pay even much more, + donate,
The only things:
* the liers and cheaters must to be comminated !!!
* my  deleted posts about must to be restored
* lanblan4 who named me ´asshole´ because I dont believe this waterwheel fraud - you give me his full address or you decree yourself to him an penalty in value of $1000

with due respect,
khabe
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Perhaps the author/moderator could have the option of choosing to pre-screen or post-screen. The problems with post-screening are noted. One other problem with pre-screening is it may actually discourage people from posting simply because they might have to wait a day or more for their post to appear.

There are pros and cons to both approaches I guess.

I agree, there should not be any secret or elite threads (btw, my "elite" status only means I can lock and unlock my own thread, nothing more) on this site, and they shouldn't be one that has to be paid for.

Topic by topic moderation is one thing that could really help, provided the right individuals are offered and accept the responsibility.

In regards to the forum ads, get yourself an ad blocker and call it a day, it's as simple as that isn't it?

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