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Offline hartiberlin

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« on: November 26, 2008, 06:22:40 AM »
Hi All,
I was asked to start this poll because some members said, they wanted to have the forum
without ads, to get faster access to all the pages.

Well, there are a few options, how to do this.

1. I could introduce a membership fee for instance 3 US$ per month
and put the people who pay this membership fee into a new member-group,
who will not see any ads , so the forum will load much faster for them.
ALso they get the option to lock up their own threads and thus disable
other users to post offtopic annoying things to it.

2. The other members,who would not pay any membership fees would
still see with ads and it will thus load slower for them
and they don´t have the options to lock/unlock their own threads.

Many thanks for loyal support.

Regards, Stefan.

P.S: There will be always free access to the main forum also in the
future, but only with ads.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2008, 01:28:49 AM by hartiberlin »

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Membership site ?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 06:45:16 AM »
@ Stefan:

Excellent!  I think you will learn a lot from this and whatever you decide, I am sure will make the site even better.  Thanks.


Offline TechStuf

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Re: Membership site ?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 07:07:10 AM »

I would not hesitate at all to pay a most reasonable dollar a month!  Are you kidding?

If for no other reason (besides the fact that the cost is a no brainer) than to satisfy my curiosity.


Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Membership site ?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 08:29:26 AM »
I voted #3

Put up a donate button, so I can donate some money and get myself the Overunity forum ads free
or a subscription (monthly donation).. maybe different levels get you different perks. $1, $3, or $5... each level the better the experience.

But I do feel that ad based (free) should stay an option or we'll loose members.


Offline ThothTheSecond

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 04:40:06 PM »
I'm all for it, time for you to get paid Stefan.

One option I would love to see on a paid membership is the ability for an ignore list/button.  When a thread gets overrun with off topic debate it would be nice to filter out those who get overly argumentative.

Thnaks for everything here.

Offline wattsup

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 04:52:32 PM »

I would prefer a yearly membership fee so we don't have to putz around with this every month. So let's say it was $25/year payable upfront.

Then if anyone comes on the board to make a mess of things, they have to pay, and if they get barred because they are total assholes, they lose their balance as a donation. Thank you very much.

We could also have free membership with ads, that's OK but you still have to realize that the free memberships with the ads will still draw bandwidth because all will be on the same server. So if there are 1000 free and only 25 paid, this will not help completely to lower the server busy errors if the server is getting overtaxed. But that's a mild problem.

What I would like to see in the new forum server is as follows for my OU wish list.

1) Better search featues. Search buttons for title, text in post, attachment or all.

This way if I want to search for all jpg's made by let's say @otto, I put "jpg" in the text field, put "otto" in the username field, then click on "attachments". This should give me a list of all jpg files posted by @otto. Right now, the searches do not look at the attachment filenames which is a major problem when you are looking for a specific drawing or image. Could take hours and major bandwidth.

2) In paid mode I would like to still have the modify button to correct last minute spelling errors and mild stuff but not to be used to remove posts.

3) In paid mode, we should have the regular Recent Posts List and also an option to have a Page 2 of recent posts. So when a thread is off the main list, you can always go back to Page 2 and pick it up otherwise you have to go through all the searching. Happens less now since I bookmarks each thread and keep in in by browsers OU Threads directory. lol

Thanks for your always great work and devotion to the forum.


Offline TheOne

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Re: Membership site ?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 06:17:25 PM »
If we need to pay, I will switch to another forum

Offline DrStiffler

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 06:18:34 PM »

Hummm... Well my Penny is one of added burden and multiple problems.

If you give someone a drivers license, you then need to enforce their driving habits. When one has earned and payed for the right to drive yo now have the burden of proof to get them off the road fro the bad and dangerous habits they exhibit.

So what happens with infraction? Are they taken off the road? Do they get a refund for the license? Does the issuer keep the fee?

Well for one I would never pay for the dysfunctional commentary that is allowed on an open site.


Offline poynt99

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 06:56:27 PM »
I'm enjoying an ad-free right now!

Page load time is 25% of what it was. I have no problem now except the short pages, for which I hope Stefan will oblige the requests from users and return it to where it was.

The answer is not to pay for a website or forum, they ought to be free. The answer is to SIMPLIFY with a few simple click ads, nothing more. The problem is bloatware with all the java scripts etc. bogging down the whole forum experience....all unnecessary for a forum to function. We download 200k+ to obtain a little bit of text. And now that the pages are shorter, this means more page transitions/downloads per hour and as a result an even slower forum.

A warning to all: Fully expect the new version of forum software to run even slower. With more and fancier features comes more overhead. As bad as it is now, it is only going to get worse/slower.

Check out Dave's forum here: this is how a forum should look and run. May be older software, but it runs slick and is stable. No bloatware to bog things down.

So pay if you like, but unless a complete culture change occurs as wattsup and Dr. Stiffler both alluded to, not much is going to improve.

Offline TechStuf

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 07:20:09 PM »
Sites such as these, that allow and encourage open exchange of ideas without censorship, will always be targeted by trolls of every sort. And for sobering reason.  We all harbor agendas to varying degree or we could scarcely be called 'sentient' beings.  Speaking as I do, as a self admitted 'troll' with an agenda....I value the right, in jeopardy though it may be, to speak my mind on various issues.  However, civility, as in any real public gathering should be consistently maintained.

Such being said, let's not forget the main objective of Stefan's considerable labors.  It is to foster the achievement of overunity, not social unity.....and let's face it, we all are forced on a daily basis, to deal with or overlook fools in real life, even when they prove, on occasion, to be ourselves.  Those doing real work, sharing the results of hand's on experience shouldn't bat an eye at the dime a day which Stefan humbly proposes.  The hour is getting late, my friends, and as the world begins to fragment quick as a prince Rupert's drop into cliques, cadres, and cabals of like mind in reaction to the obvious decsent into the cruelest form of feudalism the world has ever known....

Perhaps a dime a day to witness the cavalcade of creativity that Stefan has engendered should be exacted from only the observational theorists among us?  Leaving that relatively miniscule number of us who provide hands on results to their watchful eyes and active fingers, to devote such possibly critical expenditure to that extra magnet, coil, weight, etc. which just might leave us all refreshingly speechless for a while.

Frankly, I'd feel privileged to pay for relatively exclusive access to a truly serious and dedicated group of fellow hands on researchers. Those given to nobler pursuits are much less likely to prattle on with inane vulgarities simply to hear their heads rattle, as some have the custom.



« Last Edit: November 26, 2008, 07:40:15 PM by TechStuf »

Offline pese

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Re: Membership site ?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2008, 07:29:29 PM »
Let PAY the many readers!
And give FREE to writers, (wit postings all 2 or 3 days!
This folk is fill  your board with life.
So an lot is only "still" readers, to take Ideas for Hobby up to instustrial use.

(delete stupid postings that can be done to have it FREE,
So that will not count,if that is done for that)

Offline BEP

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2008, 09:31:08 PM »
I have not participated in so-called 'Elite' threads but the thought of offering a view for money is distasteful. If this happens I suggest the original posters have a chance to delete their posts first.

From what I've seen there is nothing worth the cost but some posts were made with the understanding they would be kept within the group. The main benefit I gather was to keep the scatterbrains away so serious work could be done without constantly trying to defend a thought.

Now that the scatterbrains are the majority of the traffic any remaining serious work will likely go to another forum.

Offline TechStuf

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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2008, 07:57:14 PM »

Considering the amount of page views Stefan gets, I think the amount of poll responders to this date tells an interesting story.  There are a lot of talkers in life....such that the walkers have learned to become a bit stand offish.

I have not participated in so-called 'Elite' threads but the thought of offering a view for money is distasteful.

I think the idea of requiring those less inclined to work themselves, to offer a token of appreciation to view the work of those who do, a capital idea!  Fair is fair, after all.

You know, that's what really stinks to high heaven about communism and state sponsored 'capitalism'.  They both work best when the haves are able to effectively insulate themselves from their victims, the have nots....who are then highly encouraged to vent their outrage about the situation, on one another.  Once the remainder of the middle (aka. 'thinking') class is done away with....look out.

Watch the movie:  "Idiocracy".  It highlights the scope of the growing tragedy of programmed social entropy.....pandemic moral relativism borne of selfishness.

The sad thing is, the world thinks it deserves a savior.   It doesn't.  It cotinually expects the selfless to offer themselves up in sacrifice to their stupidity.  But what happens when the selfless are finally consumed by the selfish?  They must feed on themselves.

Okay...Back to the topic at hand....

A membership website, comprised of obviously dedicated researchers would, no doubt, prove quite an interesting venture.


Offline Yucca

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2008, 10:46:25 PM »
Thanks for the forum Stefan and for keeping all the info fairly safe by backing it all up.

I would pay a $1 per month for adfree forum access, I should probably be paying a little anyway as I read this forum quite alot and rarely click on any ads.

I might even be tempted for the $3 per month with extra features.

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2008, 11:20:22 PM »

And good luck getting the gremlins out of the system.....

I've had several of my posts messed with....sometimes right before they become no longer editable.

« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 12:16:09 AM by TechStuf »