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Author Topic: I think i have something here...carbon arc +  (Read 9978 times)

Offline christo4_99

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I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« on: November 25, 2008, 12:37:15 AM »
i was looking into the bingo carbon arc thing and i read that the rods were sometimes filled with different substances to cause the arc to burn a different color.then i thought,why not use an aluminum filament to increase hydrogen production?seems the aluminum melt in 6k degrees would make some gas.i haven't tried it but if someone has the means try it and let me know what happens.my gift to the forum.p.s. i don't think it would have to necessarily be processed aluminum either the ore powder would melt under the same conditions i believe.

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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2008, 09:28:40 AM »
Years ago, this is invented. an aluminum wire that is burning over an ark under water soend an lot of hho, zhat in an way, that the costs  (alumin v/s hho( is to use to "drive" with very low cost.
This device is patented, was tested also from BMW, And honored with "very useful".  But it is not used (solong we have oil , the industry is
possibly very slow to change anything...
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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2008, 07:59:47 PM »
refined aluminum is expensive but unrefined aluminum(bauxite) is the most abundant metal on the earth.salt is another abundant thing (ala Kanzius) and water.the answers are staring us in the face.

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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 08:53:36 PM »
G'day all,

Liberating hydrogen by injecting water into white hot carbon is an old technology, very well understood. It was made use of in old fashioned coal gas generators. The product was called water gas.

What happens is that in white hot coal the carbon has a greater affinity to oxygen than hydrogen. The resultant gas is a mixture of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and hydrogen. Molten aluminium will do much the same except it will not generate carbon compounds.

Bauxite will NOT work since bauxite is essentially oxydised aluminium and therefore will not attract any oxygen from the water. Hope this helps.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2008, 09:05:06 PM »
I did some "underwater carbon rod bingo fuel stuff" too a while back.... IT WAS HELLA FUN!!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2008, 09:46:47 PM »


http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com/2005/10/engineuity-aluminum-or-magnesium-wire.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5052272.html

http://www.ewire.com/display.cfm/Wire_ID/622
http://www.freewebs.com/alfuelcell/


and here , what i written before:

"Invented by a Mr Francois P. Cornish (UK)
Tested successfully by BMW in 1981
Patented in 1982"

http://www.trap17.com/index.php/water-fuel-engine_t28391.html

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i have an lot more links obout that ( in my 7k collection..
including patent , and the test-report from BMW i can find out.

But i think to use the above link, you find more detailsm to stdy this.

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Why not on the marked ?


Industry Energy Manfacturers and Goverment (Taxes)
wil "earn less money". This will stop any progress,
solong the earth spend oil ...
Pese

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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2008, 02:40:39 AM »
Cornish did not use aluminium , he used aluminat , it is the stage between
bauxit and aluminium.

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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 03:44:19 AM »

Yes...I have heard of the Aluminati.

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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 08:20:44 AM »
Cornish did not use aluminium , he used aluminat , it is the stage between
bauxit and aluminium.

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Quote from the patent : A coil 21 of aluminium wire 22 is fed through a push-pull unit 23 of the kind used to feed welding wire to argon arc welding devices. The unit 23 is arranged to feed the wire against the surface of the drum 19 and to traverse the wire along the length of the drum on a bar 24. The wire passes along an insulating sleeve 25 which enters the tank 10 through a suitable wiper seal.

G'day all,

I cannot see why aluminat would work any better. It comes in several forms lead aluminat, sodium aluminat being the most common with a few exotics thrown in. Apart from the fact that it is not easy to get hold of especially in wire form I cannot think where the advantage would be. Magnesium wire incidentally would work too.

All you want to do is break the bond between oxygen and hydrogen and dispose of the oxidised compound.

Btw Cap-Z-ro Good one.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: I think i have something here...carbon arc +
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2009, 08:01:21 AM »
This looks like carbon arc releasing hydrogen from water aka cold fusion. What do you know ? This is huge !!

Watch youtube video

cold fusion 4. www.cspenergy.eu
instant 5-10 litre hidrogen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiDkLd6OcO0


 

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