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totoalas

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16005 on: January 04, 2013, 12:41:13 PM »
ac neu ground rf charger v4 040113  yt imtotob 
using various caps diodes

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stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16006 on: January 04, 2013, 01:27:39 PM »
TK,

The actual soldering goes fast. What is taking time is to put the components onto the board.
So a robot arm putting the components onto the board, and then to the wave soldering station. :-)

Seriously, if I was loaded with money I could order a factory to solder my boards. I'm not, so
hand soldering is the only option.

>>You might need as many antennas and ground connections as you have modules, in order to get the full advertised power.

If collecting RF is your only theory regarding this circuit, then yes, many antennas etc. But I think it is more to this
circuit than just collecting RF. So I will try out a really large metal plate also. But as I said, this project will take time.
I will only find time to test the metal plate(s) next summer.

GL.

To test once it gets warm, you can go to a remote area free of most radio waves to see what effect it has on the receiver circuit.

stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16007 on: January 04, 2013, 01:31:02 PM »
I'd like to know other people's results from switching the ground and antenna hookups. Preliminary testing of my single module using 1n34a diodes seems to be telling me there's no difference.....

Tomorrow I'm going to erect a large metal plate (actually a roll of heavy duty aluminum foil) up in the attic. We have a metal roof, so that should be interesting..... Maybe I'll hook a wire to the roof itself, even though it's attached to the house, it's a huge area of sheetmetal....

And there is a huge difference in my mind between "overunity" performance and harvesting some of the energies that are constantly swirling around us.....
 ;)

Hello TK,

Sounds like some goods ideas to try but remember that most of the inventors/copiers recommend insulating the plate from touching the mounting as well as the plate itself. 

stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16008 on: January 04, 2013, 01:34:57 PM »
Ac neuground rf charger v3 04013   yt  imtotob
Still cannot connect ou in my deskstop sorry about that
71V dc in 12 mins

Totoalas

@all

Something seems strange about this circuit to me.  I'm very surprised at the output.  Do you think that there is a energetic coupling happening between the AC neutral and the hot wire since they are side by side????

Any thoughts on this?

totoalas

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16009 on: January 04, 2013, 01:47:34 PM »
hi
earth  water pipenetwork
water in pipe from reservoir  bodies of water



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stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16010 on: January 04, 2013, 01:53:02 PM »
@GL,

I just ordered the exact film caps that Jes used in his setup.  I ordered these from mouser, P/N 80-R46KN3220JBM1K.  Hopefully I can help the good cause soon.  I need to get more germanium diodes.  Can anyone suggest a cheap place to get some?

Jes's Parts (Approximate)

(2) film caps 220nf at 275
(2) Electrolytic caps 50v at 100uf
(4)1N34A germanium diodes
(1) Al plate 800-600mm (approx 2.5X3 feet) Nylon rope to hang in attic and insulated???
(1) brass bolt and (2) brass nuts

cant remember wire but it was a heavy gauge like 8
(2) Grounding rods deep(2-3 feet down) in moist ground

stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16011 on: January 04, 2013, 02:02:24 PM »
Just got 20 1N34A's for $17.90 from SpaElectronics.

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16012 on: January 04, 2013, 03:12:24 PM »
To test once it gets warm, you can go to a remote area free of most radio waves to see what effect it has on the receiver circuit.

Stprue,

Yes, I will do that this summer. I work and live in south Norway, but each summer I go to
my house up in north Norway. Up there, there is little RF energy. It is also a long way from
radio links, TV links and cell phone transmitters.

GL.

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16013 on: January 04, 2013, 03:17:42 PM »
Today I did build a small oscillator that I will connect to my APM2 module.
I will be a fun test to see what output I get from the APM2 module.

[EDIT1] I got 41 Volt out of the APM2 with no load on the APM2.
              Connected one green LED, no light, just one blink in the LED.
              Connected a 12 Volt 1,8 Watt LED lamp, two of the LEDs did light dimly.

GL.

stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16014 on: January 04, 2013, 03:20:49 PM »
Sounds like a perfect place to test and get some good relaxation.

synchro1

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Imtotob video link
« Reply #16015 on: January 04, 2013, 03:54:09 PM »

TinselKoala

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16016 on: January 04, 2013, 06:37:32 PM »
Just got 20 1N34A's for $17.90 from SpaElectronics.
0.45 each for 10 or more..... so 9 dollars for 20, plus shipping......
http://www.circuitspecialists.com/

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16017 on: January 04, 2013, 07:08:44 PM »
@synchro: You might be interested in this.
I just made a video showing some work repeating some of Sohei Thoth's work with "wireless" (actually coreless) JT using Tesla bifilar coils as inductors. Very interesting stuff. Not super efficient but interesting nevertheless. I was amazed by how far apart I could place the two coils and still get brilliant light in the LED bank. Also the "enhanced" version using the 70 nF cap across the 2n2222a 1K base resistor produces much better performance and even greater separation distance.... and does not have the reduction in brightness with distance the way the "standard" basic JT without this cap behaves. The lights stay at full brightness until they finally shut off at the extreme separation distance of the coils of about 15 cm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilocTgUUIIY



stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16018 on: January 04, 2013, 07:20:40 PM »
Wow, that's a great site.  good deals on DMM's too. 

Good find TK.

e2matrix

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16019 on: January 04, 2013, 07:40:51 PM »
A quick look on eBay will find you a 100 pcs. of 1N34A for $10.05 including shipping,  50 pcs. for $6.69  so just around 10 cents each or a little more and those were just the first few I saw without digging for the possible best deals there.  Of course it will take you a few weeks typically to get them but just saying the place TK mentioned is far from the low price.   Otherwise a good place for bigger things it looks like.