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Author Topic: Joule Thief  (Read 6276364 times)

Eastov

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13125 on: March 25, 2010, 03:33:34 PM »
ist,
Dead batteries, BEMF, and spikes; is
there some way to measure for overunity? 
e

innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13126 on: March 25, 2010, 03:49:05 PM »
ist,
Dead batteries, BEMF, and spikes; is
there some way to measure for overunity? 
e

i think the easyest way to acheive ou is to use a unit such as i  have just built .. as a power source for a pulsed application like newman or bedini or any other motor unit ..   recover from the SECOND STAGE UNIT ..

but you can also go LOW VALUE CAP  as output and BANG A SINGLE COIL WITH A FET .. AND FREQ GENNY ..

THEN LITE A 7 - 60W FILIMENT ..

xee#2   has practice ...

: )

W

i also know if you go dubble banger on the drive coil .. it flys in speed ..  so then you have no trouble to fill caps ..  100 times the speed ..

i know slayer007 has done this  quite some time ago ..   wether he filled caps or not im not sure ...

and if you need undeniable PROOF MY WORK IS REAL TRUE AND  GIVEN FREE OF CHARGE ..

ALL IS ONLY AVABIL ON overunity.com ..

now charge a large value cap  to 30vdc use a pwm add MY NEO ZAP AND BE CAREFULL!

THAT IS YOUR WARNING !

: )

W

now throw a cupple pancakes togather in 1 ring a standard pancake and a torous high freq.. : )

smak it with the neo zap plasma flash ...  it lites a 60 watt good n bright ..   this is the supply ...

for a TPU!

AC HAS ATAINED GOOD RESULTS FROM  24VDC 1 AMP ...   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvleOLh42uw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGT5PB733a0&NR=1
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0etbntkxbs
: )

« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 05:28:07 PM by innovation_station »

Eastov

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13127 on: March 25, 2010, 05:37:56 PM »
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resonanceman

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13128 on: March 25, 2010, 06:55:54 PM »
here is my newest unit

it is the entire system on 1 board .. 

add a coil and battery holder your done ..

i have 2 caps 25vdc 4700 uf  1 per coil then joined as 1 feed

need a coil ?

: )

ist!


IST

I was planning on  throwing together another battery charger  in the next day or 2.

I have a couple  questions  about yours

I see  3 chips on your  board........I am guessing  they  are  the JT transistor and 2 fast diodes.
Am I right  about this?

2 diodes would give an output  that pulses more than  a bridge.

On your  coil  what kind  of ratio do you have  between  the  primarys  and  secondary?
It is my observation that most people  on this thread   use as few  wraps  as possible for the primary.
I have started  making  coils  with larger  primarys  .......the theory is, start with  the biggest kick  you can .......

The  last  coil I made  I wrapped  3 cat5 pairs  as  a single wire
I did  12 wraps.
I wrapped  around in one direction
( 1 lap )
I see  that you often   wrap it in several laps.
Is there  an  performance  advantage to wrapping  in a number  of laps?
WIth the same wire  4 wraps  3 laps  would not be any harder to do


( I connected  2 of the pairs in series for my primary )
USing 12 V input  I got over 250 V from the 3rd winding
Swithing the coil  around  I go  380 V using the  single  winding as primary .......more voltage.......but I am thinking less kick ....... couldn't quite light  a CFL


gary

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13129 on: March 25, 2010, 07:00:47 PM »
Hello

Quick question : have you already found a charger which recharges its own power supply battery ?
Just asking  :D

innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13130 on: March 25, 2010, 07:31:44 PM »
the chip things are the bridges yes you get higher volts with diodes as i have seen anyhow .

any ring can feed back ..  many ways too

the base tap point is a great place to tap then feed the recharge through with the next pulse ..

draw goes way down on supply as i have seen ..  you could also charge a secondary super cap and then diode it back to the rechargeable driveing battery .. maybe even do both ..

i find that the more laps the higher the freq ..

and many many more spikes on my scope ..

: )

ist

the laps that follow the first apear to kick the first in the ass!

lol

resonanceman

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13131 on: March 25, 2010, 07:41:29 PM »




the base tap point is a great place to tap then feed the recharge through with the next pulse ..


IST

I have no idea what a base tap  point is


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i find that the more laps the higher the freq ..

and many many more spikes on my scope ..

: )

ist

the laps that follow the first apear to kick the first in the ass!

lol

Thanks

That makes sense

I still don't  have a scope ....but it seems  to me the  more  toroids I add to my candy cane  coils  the  stronger  the spikes  are.........more toroids  don't seem to raise  the voltage much at all.

gary

Mk1

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13132 on: March 25, 2010, 09:28:01 PM »
your a LOOSER FAG HOW IS YOUR ASS?

HEY DUM DUM ?

!

TELL ME HOW AND Y MY MOTOR RUNS! 

IF YOU EVER START RUNNING FORWARD ...  MAYBE YOU GET SOME WHERE

MARK!

how bout we talk about why you think you know so much mark !   

how long you had boy friends ... mark ?

oh ya right thats why you know !!!  does his wife know ?

: )

continue to cut me down ill burn you down !

little baby!

you apear to be all cry baby like ...   DOES MY COIL RUN FAST ?  LMFAO!

Ist , is a Moron and a jerk , if you like wasting your time go for it.

How can anyone have anything to share , and such a bad attitude.

how this guy is still on this site is beyond me...

Mark


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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13133 on: March 25, 2010, 10:47:36 PM »
Hi Slayer and all

I made the test with a plastic wire  pancake coil   10 turns on a plastic ring

First result was not good at all   than i flip the coil and than i got very good result that is to say that the coil winding direction is important. The main coil must have  a different winding direction as the second one.

Than something happens by accident     i let the free wire of the main coil touch the  wooden working table    and when this main coil get in resonance (and only at this point that is to say when the power goes every where around the main coil and light every thing with antenna in its attainable  range)   i have notice that    A VERY SMALL VIOLET ARC ( See pix 1)      is present at the end of the wire.       As soon as i touch the wire this arc stops  and i have to reamorce the resonnance .   And when i approach this very small violet light a strong ionesed smelling is clear to my nose.   tried to put different floor under the wire to test different arcing but noway untill now it only works on my painted wooden  table ?
I do think that this arc is PLASMA, what do you think ?

Than i made a new test by reinstalling my other pancake coil on the main coil but this time as a pickup coil   very powerfull indeed  i can light very brithfully a led with AV config  and get a scope shot on the other wire     see pix

This thread is very interesting    but my question    is it always   a JT ?    or are we going in something  else?     What do think Pirate  Jeanna Mk1  Guyla and others contributors ?

Good night and a lot of fun to all

rergards

Laurent

innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13134 on: March 25, 2010, 11:34:44 PM »
Ist , is a Moron and a jerk , if you like wasting your time go for it.

How can anyone have anything to share , and such a bad attitude.

how this guy is still on this site is beyond me...

Mark

why are you here ?

mark ?  to look for answers ..  for what reason you trying to reinvent ma wheel ...  lol
what gives you the right to try to jade the reserch? 

dick head ..   this was my work not yours never was guy .. 

so you think good and hard ... !

because clearly you missed the entire case and point !


fool!

W

Mk1

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13135 on: March 25, 2010, 11:59:39 PM »
why are you here ?

mark ?  to look for answers ..  for what reason you trying to reinvent ma wheel ...  lol
what gives you the right to try to jade the research? 

dick head ..   this was my work not yours never was guy .. 

so you think good and hard ... !

because clearly you missed the entire case and point !


fool!

W


Ok Moron even if you are the reincarnation Of TESLA , you did not invent the kick ...

You are a dumb ass and have no clue , the kick is all about physics , even Tesla could not have invented it , and guess what he did not even discovered it .

Stop clamming anything since you can't show anything you made that works that was not stolen from someone else .

I think it is sad no one loves you enough to get you the help you need ...  :'(

We have enough evidence that you know shit !

All the video you made are a tribute to it .

Stop living a lie . Your wife left you for your brother and took the kids , all of that because of your obsession with this site .

Wake up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13136 on: March 26, 2010, 12:19:11 AM »

Ok Moron even if you are the reincarnation Of TESLA , you did not invent the kick ...

You are a dumb ass and have no clue , the kick is all about physics , even Tesla could not have invented it , and guess what he did not even discovered it .

Stop clamming anything since you can't show anything you made that works that was not stolen from someone else .

I think it is sad no one loves you enough to get you the help you need ...  :'(

We have enough evidence that you know shit !

All the video you made are a tribute to it .

Stop living a lie . Your wife left you for your brother and took the kids , all of that because of your obsession with this site .

Wake up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

burnt ! you shall be !

call it a sun burn! 

my  princess will not kiss a frog !a frog will remain a frog for ever !

 enjoy..

: )

 im where i was suspoto be .....   where are you ?

and even if i were tesla in a past life ....  im me in this one ...  and now go study ra's capabilities ..

lol

your still a looser eddy !

W

so why does your coil work eddy?   lol    come on lets here you echo my words ...

try and steal the little i have left ... why did you come here mark ?   why did YOU HAVE TO LEARN ENGLISH MARK ?   

looser ... 
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 12:57:46 AM by innovation_station »

slayer007

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13137 on: March 26, 2010, 12:32:41 AM »
Hi A and all

I made the test with a plastic wire  pancake coil   10 turns on a plastic ring

First result was not good at all   than i flip the coil and than i got very good result that is to say that the coil winding direction is important. The main coil must have  a different winding direction as the second one.

Than something happens by accident     i let the free wire of the main coil touch the  wooden working table    and when this main coil get in resonance (and only at this point that is to say when the power goes every where around the main coil and light every thing with antenna in its attainable  range)   i have notice that    A VERY SMALL VIOLET ARC ( See pix 1)      is present at the end of the wire.       As soon as i touch the wire this arc stops  and i have to reamorce the resonnance .   And when i approach this very small violet light a strong ionesed smelling is clear to my nose.   tried to put different floor under the wire to test different arcing but noway untill now it only works on my painted wooden  table ?
I do think that this arc is PLASMA, what do you think ?

Than i made a new test by reinstalling my other pancake coil on the main coil but this time as a pickup coil   very powerfull indeed  i can light very brithfully a led with AV config  and get a scope shot on the other wire     see pix

This thread is very interesting    but my question    is it always   a JT ?    or are we going in something  else?     What do think Pirate  Jeanna Mk1  Guyla and others contributors ?

Good night and a lot of fun to all

rergards

Laurent


Now your getting somewhere very nice.
Yes the L1 coil and the L2 coil have to be wound in differant directions.
If you try it and it doesn't work just reverse polarity as you have done.

The pancake coil will make a big difference in power output and current draw.

Now you need to make another tower for your receiver tower.
Or try some water experiments.

I thought about making a new thread for this.
This acts more like Dr Stiffler's SEC than a JT.




innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13138 on: March 26, 2010, 01:20:44 AM »

Now your getting somewhere very nice.
Yes the L1 coil and the L2 coil have to be wound in differant directions.
If you try it and it doesn't work just reverse polarity as you have done.

The pancake coil will make a big difference in power output and current draw.

Now you need to make another tower for your receiver tower.
Or try some water experiments.

I thought about making a new thread for this.
This acts more like Dr Stiffler's SEC than a JT.

it probally would as i didnt see a jt in your unit .. 

a joule theif is simply a make and break in a loop .... 

lol

hummmmm

lol

were not plying with 16 " towers .. were playing a ferroite core vibrator ..    and a darn pancake coil ..


simple the pancake is air core ...  the jt is not ..   but it could be in made in such a way

ist!

i built a super simple mod for a fugi cam board   wich IS A JT ... 

thank you

it is 6 wires ..  2 output  2 input 1 switch .. 

THIS MOD WILL WORK ON ALL CAM BOARDS REGRDLESS OF THERE MAKER !

: )

im modding 9 of them and putting them togather in a ring unit .. 

the job of the ring unit is to charge 3 caps ..


innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13139 on: March 26, 2010, 01:44:20 AM »
here is 1 more for ya mark ... 

: p

lol

take a jt give it 4 secondaries ...  give 2 high voltage caps .. give 2 low voltage high uf .. caps  lmfao !

: )

combine through bridge  then to output ...

as 1

W

and if that is not enough mark i have a quick light mod comeing up verry soon it involves any cam board and my 6 wire mod a light base holder and a 120vac loa bulb 60 leds ... 

: )

i could probally lite a few of those bulbs .. full bright from 1 modded unit ..

as i was able to run 1 at 308vdc and still over fill the cap ...  : )

what have we learned about history .... 

right ..   it only repetes ...  ok   fine   

how did the TESLA RADIO STORY GO LAST TIME ...     ; )

mark on the roni ...  agin ....    macaroni   lol

same old story ..

M IS FOR MARK FOR TRYING TO PUT M&M'S IN ALPHIBITICAL ORDOR ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CqzASCwUq8

will  the real slim shady ! please stand up !

cuz theres a million of me who walk talk and act like me . it might just be the next best thing but   NOT QUITE ME .... : ) 

will the real slim shady please stand up !

~W~
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 03:22:25 AM by innovation_station »