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Author Topic: Joule Thief  (Read 5498690 times)

Offline stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12915 on: March 08, 2010, 08:23:37 PM »
Fantastic job Mark.  I love the song too   ;D

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« Reply #12916 on: March 08, 2010, 09:02:16 PM »
@ Mk1

Fantastic job Mark.  I love the song too   ;D

Ditto.

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12917 on: March 08, 2010, 11:40:13 PM »
@all

I made a new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiLcbTBewhw

Running the motor/generator , detail on the connections ...

Hi MK1,

In your video you wrote at 0:16  "On the first try I made it an X winding, the pickup coil gave me 0 Volts but still could light 24 leds in parallel"
Also, at 0:33 you wrote: "0 volts coil (X) At work!"

Did you mean that your voltage meter did not show any voltage, yet the the leds were lit? 
Or you meant the X (crossing) wires do not induce voltage, yet the leds are lit?

Thanks,  Gyula

Offline altrez

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12918 on: March 09, 2010, 12:38:44 AM »
CosmicFarmer was able to get a large reduction in current draw using the following addition to the slayer007 SEC circuit. When I tried it with a 6 volt battery supply the current was 150 mA without the CosmicFarmer addition and 115 mA with the CosmicFarmer addition. So it really does decrease current draw. The output voltage appeared to be the same in both cases since both would light a fluorescent tube.

Hey xee2 what type of wireless range are you getting now?

-Altrez

Offline Mk1

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12919 on: March 09, 2010, 12:55:00 AM »
Hi MK1,

In your video you wrote at 0:16  "On the first try I made it an X winding, the pickup coil gave me 0 Volts but still could light 24 leds in parallel"
Also, at 0:33 you wrote: "0 volts coil (X) At work!"

Did you mean that your voltage meter did not show any voltage, yet the the leds were lit? 
Or you meant the X (crossing) wires do not induce voltage, yet the leds are lit?

Thanks,  Gyula

Thanks everyone!

Gyula

 Yes and yes ...

The meter showed 0 v , since i don't have a scope i changed it for convenience to have a clue about my results.

 

Offline altrez

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12920 on: March 09, 2010, 12:57:40 AM »
@all

I made a new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiLcbTBewhw

Running the motor/generator , detail on the connections ...

Great work!!!

-Altrez

Offline jeanna

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12921 on: March 09, 2010, 01:02:15 AM »
Hi folks,  so does anyone have any thoughts on freeenergyinfo's idea about induction heater or has anyone tried this already, thanks.
peace love light
Tyson
Hi Tyson,
Only that I have been wanting to try it and have not done so yet.
Every time I read the fine print the "high" of the high voltage is not so high but the watts is really high, so I do something else.
If freenergyinfo could show us a 1.2v input even warming the core, I would be encouraged. But it is not too hopeful at this point.
Do you want to try it?
If the frequency is more important than the volts, which it could be, then raise the value of the base resistor on your joule thief. This will lower the volts, so keep an eye on them. Spiky volts count about half of what you expect. My thoughts are that as long as there are enough like 170v then get that base resistor high and increase the frequency.
I am not sure why the secondary alone wouldn't heat it.

I got a warming of a coil 2 times.
Both times the transistor was cool and everything else seemed normal.
Once was with a bedini circuit and the other time was with the cardboard toroid.
(funny... both times folks said there must be a short, but there was not.)

I did use a stubblefield which is made on a plain steel bolt.
It worked well as the "toroid" of a joule thief, but I do not remember if it heated up or not.
The steel bolt rather than ferrite or laminated material is what is needed here,( according to the site freenergyinfo linked).

wanna try it?

jeanna

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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« Reply #12922 on: March 09, 2010, 03:33:18 AM »
This fellow used a multiplier to go from 20k volts to 80k.  I believe he used a Cockcroft-Walton multiplier for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CltmVL4UguA&feature=grec
For that high a voltage(I agree it's that high), embedding the components in something like pourable plastic Neolite or else highly insulated diodes and caps would increase efficiency by reducing coronal discharge at inopportune moments.
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His arcs are huge and actually look a lot like flames to me rather than sparks. This is unreal and may be related to our work here.
Yeah, I saw it too.  Unique display.  I never saw anything like it.  But, 80,000 V is nothing to treat lightly when the arc is that big.

--Lee

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12923 on: March 09, 2010, 03:20:30 PM »
i wake up in the morning and i step out side and i get real high!!

i said hey whats going on  .... ?

lmfao

W

4x3x3lap

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12924 on: March 09, 2010, 05:07:14 PM »
For that high a voltage(I agree it's that high), embedding the components in something like pourable plastic Neolite or else highly insulated diodes and caps would increase efficiency by reducing coronal discharge at inopportune moments.Yeah, I saw it too.  Unique display.  I never saw anything like it.  But, 80,000 V is nothing to treat lightly when the arc is that big.

--Lee

Lee:

I agree that this looks dangerous.  I also have never seen anything like this either.  I wonder what that would look like if run through a large Jacob's ladder?

Bill

Offline xee2

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12925 on: March 09, 2010, 05:34:58 PM »
k1zm lighting large filament bulb very bright from 1.5 volt AA (in cell phone charger).

video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VLq3YlEp-E

Offline stprue

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12926 on: March 09, 2010, 06:52:16 PM »
Nice find xee, the cap is providing that quick current to get it to light so bright!

Offline xee2

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12927 on: March 09, 2010, 07:08:12 PM »
I think this is the k1zm filament circuit.


Offline mscoffman

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12928 on: March 09, 2010, 07:16:36 PM »

...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CltmVL4UguA&feature=grec
His arcs are huge and actually look a lot like flames to me rather than sparks.
...

Bill

The tip of the wire is vaporizing, injecting metal/metal oxide plasma
into the arc...hot stuff! A diode voltage multiplier can leave you
with relatively low impedances - and a certain amount of current.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Offline innovation_station

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #12929 on: March 09, 2010, 08:16:42 PM »
hey guess what ... 

NOW I DONE IT !

: )

i just designed a kick ass pulse motor generator with horse power ...  and it runs on a jt ring gold mines ...  ...  lol   

and it also is high speed high mass ..  and a generator on top of the bedini jt and mechanical work it can do ... 

simple to make ....   

: )

ist!

maybe ill make it maybe i wont ...  hummmmmm....

did i say LOOK MOM  NO BATTERIES AGIN ...... 

ill even throw on a HPG for extra weight and cuz i know it wont slow this thing down ... : )

im building the first one useing the menonitte meat grinder fly wheel ..  and 2" x 1" neo magnets ...

it will be built inside a large cardboard tube ..  almost 3/4 " thick ..   it will run on the POWER RING ...

REGARDS

W