Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 894715
  • *Total Topics: 15739
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 5
  • *Guests: 12
  • *Total: 17

Author Topic: Joule Thief  (Read 5255349 times)

Offline stprue

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1025
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15990 on: January 03, 2013, 06:43:28 PM »
I was not aware about the wire being covered with teflon as well.  Very interesting, thank you e2matrix.  My suggestion for the teflon spray would be for the receiving plate.  This should be a quick and easy way to insulate your antenna plate.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15990 on: January 03, 2013, 06:43:28 PM »

Offline conradelektro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1826
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15991 on: January 03, 2013, 07:09:58 PM »
I did a test based on the "no power AM radio schematics" published by TinselKoala a few pages up in this thread, just the power generating part, no radio receiver.

See the attached schematics and scope shot. I only saw the 50 Hz hum.

As antenna I use a 10 meter cable (laid out on the floor of my kitchen) and the steel water pipes in my house as ground.

In spring I will make some tests with a long antenna in my garden. Now it is freezing cold, which discourages me to build something outside.

I tried to receive some high frequency signals (cell phone tower, WLAN), but no success. Propably needs a special well tuned antenna.

Greetings, Conrad

Offline Groundloop

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1736
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15992 on: January 03, 2013, 07:25:11 PM »
@GL,

That's a lot of $$.  What I would also do if I were you is also follow Jes's instructions on the Al plate/antenna.  Also check out the link to EE forum.  There is 3 pages of good information there.  What is not clearly stated is what the Al plate should be insulated with something and from whatever you will be hanging it on.  I have done a little research on this and it seems that teflon spray might be a better insulation choice.  Something about negative ion attraction, but do your own research to confirm.  Sounds like you may soon have a free energy lab as the very least.  I'm very excited to see a scaled up version of this radiant energy receiver.  Other then stories of people building these units, I have never actually know the good credentials of a builder, until now!   :)

Stprue,

Yes, that sum did cover 4 of the printed circuit boards and enough diodes and capacitors to solder one board.
If my first 24 Watt board works OK, then I will order parts to solder the three spare boards also.
I will try out the shiny metal plate at one point. But it will have to wait until summer time.

Thanks for the teflon spray tip.

GL.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15992 on: January 03, 2013, 07:25:11 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13968
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15993 on: January 03, 2013, 09:42:59 PM »
You might need as many antennas and ground connections as you have modules, in order to get the full advertised power.

I wonder if it would save time to make up a handy "wave soldering" tank. An hour or two spent making the tank, and half a minute to solder all the components simultaneously.... might be worth the effort !

Offline synchro1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4435
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15994 on: January 03, 2013, 10:01:55 PM »
@Tinselkoala,
 
                 Totoalas wired two modules in parallel between his A.C. neutral line and faucet pipe earth ground and found they divided the output.
 
            This brand of ebulient excess is quite a departure from a guy who not more then a few months ago forsook any and all belief in Overunity circuits sin qua non!.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15994 on: January 03, 2013, 10:01:55 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Lakes

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 383
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15995 on: January 03, 2013, 10:08:52 PM »
You might need as many antennas and ground connections as you have modules, in order to get the full advertised power.

I wonder if it would save time to make up a handy "wave soldering" tank. An hour or two spent making the tank, and half a minute to solder all the components simultaneously.... might be worth the effort !
A DIY wave soldering tank?, Is this practical or even possible to do?

Offline Groundloop

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1736
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15996 on: January 03, 2013, 10:22:42 PM »
You might need as many antennas and ground connections as you have modules, in order to get the full advertised power.

I wonder if it would save time to make up a handy "wave soldering" tank. An hour or two spent making the tank, and half a minute to solder all the components simultaneously.... might be worth the effort !

TK,

The actual soldering goes fast. What is taking time is to put the components onto the board.
So a robot arm putting the components onto the board, and then to the wave soldering station. :-)

Seriously, if I was loaded with money I could order a factory to solder my boards. I'm not, so
hand soldering is the only option.

>>You might need as many antennas and ground connections as you have modules, in order to get the full advertised power.

If collecting RF is your only theory regarding this circuit, then yes, many antennas etc. But I think it is more to this
circuit than just collecting RF. So I will try out a really large metal plate also. But as I said, this project will take time.
I will only find time to test the metal plate(s) next summer.

GL.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15996 on: January 03, 2013, 10:22:42 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline totoalas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 656
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15997 on: January 03, 2013, 10:41:43 PM »
@Groundloop,
 
                 This schematic of Joe Tate's circuit shows your !00% right about the capacitor and diode direction:

Moderator: The circuit drawing was posted to times. I deleted one of them.

My variant
No C1 and C2, C3 and C4( reverse polarity)    - 4700 uf 35 v dc , X2 X3 junction(Neutral point)  not connected to C3 C4  junction(Earth point) , In4007 diodes used
On single module    - charges from 0 to 12 v  in 3 minutes
The original module  ( diodes  In4148) in parallel with the variant increase charging rate to less than a minute ( 0 to 12 v dc)
All connections are with AC Neutral  as antenna   and earth ( water pipe) as ground . Reference drawing on page 1065  post no 15964 by Synchro
MAYBE We can minimize the modules based on the cap sise, type , diodes used 
AND JT modules at the pos / neg output will increase the dc voltage / av plugs to coils  etc
On the spot application   - for trickle charging individual batteries in a bank when the sun/ solar panel  is down
totoalas
 
 
 

Offline Groundloop

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1736
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15998 on: January 03, 2013, 10:48:33 PM »
My variant
No C1 and C2, C2 and C4( reverse polarity)    - 4700 uf 35 v dc , X2 X3 junction not connectec to C2 C4  junction, In4007 diodes used
On single module    - charges from 0 to 12 v  in 3 minutes
The original module  ( diodes  In4148) in parallel with the variant increase charging rate to less than a minute ( 0 to 12 v dc)
All connections are with AC Neutral  as antenna   and earth ( water pipe) as ground
MAYBE We can minimize the modules based on the cap sise, type , diodes used 
AND JT modules at the pos / neg output will increase the dc voltage / av plugs to coils  etc
On the spot application   - for trickle charging individual batteries in a bank when the sun/ solar panel  is down
totoalas

Totoalas,

Please make a drawing of you version. It is easier to see a drawing that explaining a circuit by text.

GL.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15998 on: January 03, 2013, 10:48:33 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline totoalas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 656
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #15999 on: January 03, 2013, 10:55:54 PM »
Hi Alex
still in the office with limited access  ..... will do after 6 hours ( added more details on post 15977  - drawing reference  page 1065  post 15964 by Synchro)
tnks
totoalas

Offline TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13968
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16000 on: January 03, 2013, 11:22:02 PM »
I'd like to know other people's results from switching the ground and antenna hookups. Preliminary testing of my single module using 1n34a diodes seems to be telling me there's no difference.....

Tomorrow I'm going to erect a large metal plate (actually a roll of heavy duty aluminum foil) up in the attic. We have a metal roof, so that should be interesting..... Maybe I'll hook a wire to the roof itself, even though it's attached to the house, it's a huge area of sheetmetal....

And there is a huge difference in my mind between "overunity" performance and harvesting some of the energies that are constantly swirling around us.....
 ;)

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16000 on: January 03, 2013, 11:22:02 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline Groundloop

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1736
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16001 on: January 03, 2013, 11:34:07 PM »
I'd like to know other people's results from switching the ground and antenna hookups. Preliminary testing of my single module using 1n34a diodes seems to be telling me there's no difference.....

Tomorrow I'm going to erect a large metal plate (actually a roll of heavy duty aluminum foil) up in the attic. We have a metal roof, so that should be interesting..... Maybe I'll hook a wire to the roof itself, even though it's attached to the house, it's a huge area of sheetmetal....

And there is a huge difference in my mind between "overunity" performance and harvesting some of the energies that are constantly swirling around us.....
 ;)

TK,

I did try switching my circuit the other way around, and I got the same voltage output. But I think an outside antenna can
receive more than just RF. If you put an uninsulated wire between to poles, then the wind and rain will generate a lot of static
electricity to be harvested from the wire to ground. Looking forward to see the result of your plate test. Are you going to spray
the aluminum plate with paint etc. to get the plate insulated from the air?

GL.

Offline TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13968
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16002 on: January 03, 2013, 11:48:45 PM »
I hadn't planned on insulating the foil except at its supports. But after I experiment with the bare foil for a while I may try spraying it with Krylon or something like that. I think that my attic might be almost a Faraday cage, though, with that metal roof. About half the house wiring also runs in the attic, so it's bound to be a very interesting EM environment.

Offline nievesoliveras

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16003 on: January 04, 2013, 03:02:58 AM »
A couple of days back I drew this explanation from totoalas:




Offline totoalas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 656
Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #16004 on: January 04, 2013, 09:17:54 AM »
Ac neuground rf charger v3 04013   yt  imtotob
Still cannot connect ou in my deskstop sorry about that
71V dc in 12 mins

Totoalas

 

OneLink