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Offline jeanna

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13260 on: April 04, 2010, 02:26:47 AM »
Does this show that you can light 3 leds in series with only 1 AA when the current path is through your new coil?

Pretty cool.

Is that a series or parallel light circuit?

good stuff, Mark!

jeanna

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13260 on: April 04, 2010, 02:26:47 AM »

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13261 on: April 04, 2010, 02:26:58 AM »
mK.. Jeanna and the others...

Yea... i don't see how a pulse is going to run a second JT.

However a Diode and Capacitor can create another 'battery" that allows JT 2 to do the charge Inductor thing on it's own terms.

                             JT1==== D + C ==== JT2 ==== JT2output

I will give it try later... I think this is what tysb3 is doing..

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13262 on: April 04, 2010, 02:38:03 AM »
Does this show that you can light 3 leds in series with only 1 AA when the current path is through your new coil?

Pretty cool.

Is that a series or parallel light circuit?

good stuff, Mark!

jeanna

Yep when the circuit is connected the satellite coil pickup the current going to and back from the battery .

They are not in series but parallel but they share the cores , so they are inductively coupled via the core .

I got the inspiration of the experiments with 2 jt on one core , the second jt working without the connection to the battery .

But i use the NPN and PNP pair and the base from on works from the second one bemf , that way i think i can sync both circuit , if i had a scope i could help more there but i got idea instead ...

Mark 

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13262 on: April 04, 2010, 02:38:03 AM »
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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13263 on: April 04, 2010, 03:17:08 AM »
how its looks on diagram
« Last Edit: April 04, 2010, 05:29:33 AM by tysb3 »

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13264 on: April 04, 2010, 04:51:55 AM »
with all my test so far on the regular jt the best combo is the gadgetmall trick with the cap on the unused leg of the pot..
gives you better light on the secondary with alot lower ma's draw..

robbie

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13264 on: April 04, 2010, 04:51:55 AM »
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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13265 on: April 04, 2010, 05:20:52 AM »
Thanks,  Robbie,
I think, I remember this circuit, it's was on second stage maybe?
I'll try to find it.

sb

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I find it :   http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.2030
« Last Edit: April 04, 2010, 07:22:46 AM by tysb3 »

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13266 on: April 04, 2010, 05:57:40 AM »
tysb3
yep .. right on it ..
it lowers the input ma's without hurting the output..
the only problem is that you have to use a pot..
on my scope the secret was it feed the transistor with two different feq's.. letting you increase the pot's resistance..
hope it helps with you double jt circuit

robbie

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13266 on: April 04, 2010, 05:57:40 AM »
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Offline jeanna

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13267 on: April 04, 2010, 06:30:32 AM »
Thanks for explaining that robbie and tsb3,

I guess that is why I never got it to work!
I never understood gadget's little trick.

jeanna

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13268 on: April 04, 2010, 07:26:34 AM »
I put together a Double Joule Thief.
It did work... I will have a report shortly.

The Observer

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13268 on: April 04, 2010, 07:26:34 AM »
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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13269 on: April 04, 2010, 12:38:39 PM »
I put together a Double Joule Thief.
It did work... I will have a report shortly.

The Observer

sweet!
diagrams please  :)

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13270 on: April 05, 2010, 05:17:21 AM »
sweet!
diagrams please  :)

Some early information is available in reply 203

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8825.msg236191#msg236191

The basic theory is that we can Lead-Out or Draw-In electron motion energy via pulsing a resonant circuit.  The Law of COnservation of Energy has not been violated.

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13270 on: April 05, 2010, 05:17:21 AM »
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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13271 on: April 05, 2010, 06:46:52 AM »
Oops,

Thought I had posted my Double Joule Thief here also.
I will do so when I get back to my regular computer.

The Observer

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13272 on: April 05, 2010, 07:06:09 AM »
Here is my Double Joule Thief Circuit.

I played around with Resistances & Capacitors a bit to obtain this result.
The Matronix Electronics lab is certainly handy for doing that !

Been running 3 LEDs for 24 hours.
Start was    1.312 V     now at     1.291 V    so a loss of    .021 V.
Or about .001 V loss per hour.

The Observer

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13273 on: April 05, 2010, 07:19:16 AM »
Very nicely done.  Excellent presentation too.  What diode did you end up using here?

Thanks,

Bill

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13274 on: April 05, 2010, 08:09:15 PM »
I don't want to be a pest, but maybe some folks who have recently arrived have not noticed this circuit from last year.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7617.msg203334#msg203334

That is a direct link to a post with pictures and above it and below it are the relevant details.
Basically there are 30 blazing bright leds running from a single AAA NiMH taking a couple of mA to run the basic circuit and all the lights are coming from the sedcondary which does not add to the draw a bit.

Why doesn't someone move this circuit forward instead of reworking how to make pulses?

In addition:
If making a few leds light from a AAA is considered ou because leds cannot run at all on a single AAA, then what pray tell is running 30 leds from a single AAA?

Please excuse this outburst.
 ;)

thank you,

jeanna

here is one pic of this:

 

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