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Offline Mk1

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13185 on: March 27, 2010, 09:58:44 AM »
@ist

Really you are one of a kind , you admits steeling idea from others and gaining from them , sorry if you did not build anything that worth mentioning 
its because you can't make anything work , that is why you need the cam circuit , at least others made there own from scrap , but yet your scrap remains scrap , you did not even prove you can build a Jt of any relevent signification , and can't out grow the simple premise of it ?

To make this clear you are only here to prevent other from patenting , so my guess you make your money that way .

Great you are not Ra your the devil . :D

Take care Magog ...

Sorry everyone , for those unrelated post , i am only trying to exorcise this tread i worked so hard on , i can't stand to let it die , but so be it ...

Thanks ist you do like talking about your self and you do said the word dick comes quite often ..

 


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« Reply #13185 on: March 27, 2010, 09:58:44 AM »

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« Reply #13186 on: March 27, 2010, 11:20:04 AM »

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« Reply #13187 on: March 27, 2010, 02:12:38 PM »
@ist

Really you are one of a kind , you admits steeling idea from others and gaining from them , sorry if you did not build anything that worth mentioning 
its because you can't make anything work , that is why you need the cam circuit , at least others made there own from scrap , but yet your scrap remains scrap , you did not even prove you can build a Jt of any relevent signification , and can't out grow the simple premise of it ?

To make this clear you are only here to prevent other from patenting , so my guess you make your money that way .

Great you are not Ra your the devil . :D

Take care Magog ...

Sorry everyone , for those unrelated post , i am only trying to exorcise this tread i worked so hard on , i can't stand to let it die , but so be it ...

Thanks ist you do like talking about your self and you do said the word dick comes quite often ..


how many kids you got  gay fool ? 

think i will allow gay fools in my palace ?   

WRONG FAG .. 

GO TO YOUR CLOSET AND HANG YOURSELF ... !

your simply tooo  stupid to know my work ... 

what more can i say ? 

i am all i said i am ..

IM RA SHIT HEAD ... 

DEAL WITH IT ...  ! 

I HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL I CAN OPERATE JUST FINE .. : )

RA

DAMM RE HE'S ...  AND DAMM SHE RA'S .... 

SHEESH ...   RUNNING DOWN DOWN A DREAM ...   THE DEVIL WOULD COME TO ME ...   WORKING ON A MISTERY ...  GOING WHERE EVER IT LEADS ...   
JUST A WEE BIT BACKWARD ...


LOL  MAYBE 1 DAY WE GET YOU RUNNING THE RIGHT WAY ...  MAYBE 1 DAY .... 

ONLY THE DEVIL HIM SELF WOULD HAVE THE SMALL BALLS REQUIRED TO STAND UP TO RA ... 

CLEARLY ..  YOU FLY YOUR GREY COLOUR HIGH ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1D3a5eDJIs

you then can look at the coils mk1 is makeing AFTER BEING WARNED !   BY PEOPLE YEARS IN ADVANCE OF HIM ... !

HAVE YOU MANAGED TO MELT YOUR BRAIN YET MK1? ... 

im starting to think the effects of your coil and your brain waves .. clearly had some entanglement going on ...

!!!

i perfer a core ...  could be a rusty nail for all i care ...  at least your brain does not become the core ...
that way ... 

and maybe you make it  a few more days ...
« Last Edit: March 27, 2010, 02:36:55 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13187 on: March 27, 2010, 02:12:38 PM »
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Offline innovation_station

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« Reply #13188 on: March 27, 2010, 02:27:49 PM »
ist,

Does this "quote" ring any bells? 

"Spirits incarnate, living as humans in our midst; moving openly and
freely, yet undetected by the masses, or even their hosts. Like the
spasms of a decapitated body, the fact of the matter, thats precisely
what it is; if you really think about it. Their illusions are many, which
overtake the sleepwalking masses. Now know that they do take flesh
and come among men, to mold a new species."

Caught in his own trap (stuck in his own box)?

e

indeed i agree ! 

mk1 is stuck in park ...  he can not advance my work ..  because he continues to run backward ... 

thus canceling any progress he made ..  too bad i like the boy ...  but ..  man it dont work the way you think it does ... 

you were born a man mk1 ...  why try to be a girl ?

??

why

ist!


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« Reply #13189 on: March 27, 2010, 02:41:55 PM »
stprue:

Nice circuit there.  Wow, that is a very low amp draw.  Can you adjust your pot to increase the frequency so the led "appears" on?  I realize this may/will increase the amp draw but maybe by not all that much.  This circuit would run for a year on a 10F cap I believe.

Great job.

Bill

Thanks Bill, and yes you can definitely adjust the POT to increase frequency!  I have also put up to 2megs resistance....a slow blink but like you said it would last for a real long time.  With a 1500uf charged to 1.5v it will last for 10 minutes with 1.2meg.  I think we should all keep this circuit in the back of our minds for when someone makes a circuit that charges itself but real slow...thats when this circuit comes in to use the energy to blink at a rate so efficiently that the charging citcuit can keep up with the draw!

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« Reply #13189 on: March 27, 2010, 02:41:55 PM »
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« Reply #13190 on: March 27, 2010, 02:43:44 PM »
st bro !

that is a wicket video ! 

great work ..  its wonderfull!

perfect timeing unit .. 

: )

W

use another led to fire the fet ..  make 3 of em ...  and change the flash rate ..  2.5 5 7.5 : )

smack a neo !

: )

i have the power ring almost built : )

9 cam boards 3 caps 20000  those fill as many caps as i want to fire from fets .. : ) or relays or pwm's

were GONNA HETERODYNE YET FROM A JT A CAM BOARD AND A FEW FETS MAYBE A COIL ... 

MAYBE NOT ...

: )

Thank you for the kind words IST!  I'm deffintely not done with this circuit but I am putting it on hold for a while! 

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« Reply #13191 on: March 27, 2010, 02:47:55 PM »
hey folks
i got a stupid question..
do any of you know how long a jt runs when it is pulling 104 ma's..
sorry to bother anyone .. i know i need to learn the math
the battery was from my wii and it had 1.2volts left in it..
so i thought at 104ma it should run down quick..
but 24 hours later it still has 0.79 volts and the led is still full brightness.. it's really to bright
i don't know the mah of this battery it is a cheap eastpower from china

thanks

ps.. stprue very nice video.. you have done alot with that circuit..

robbie

Kooler and all we should be doing math when drawing low ma's I have found that my DMM actually reads 0uA on the circuit I posted but after doing a cap test I found it to be drawing 1.5 or so uA.

Kooler use this

http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/capacitor-charge-calculator.php

then follow my math and if you need help just ask   ;)

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« Reply #13192 on: March 27, 2010, 02:52:02 PM »
Actually, this low an amp draw: the supercap would bleed faster than the circuit.

stprue, can you repost or link to a schematic?

I modified Koolers diagram!  Sorry I have no skill or time for the diagram.....I was hoping xee would make one for me hehe

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« Reply #13193 on: March 27, 2010, 02:54:43 PM »
This isn't a stupid question.  Depending upon the 'state' of the source voltage, a joule thief circuit may in fact use more milliamps when it's close to its death. ..the cut on voltage for the transistor has a lot to do with this, but I've noticed on my models that when there's no load on the device, it uses more current than when there is.  So...

Bearing that in mind, it's a good idea to keep a load on ( the secondary ) or off the collector or somewhere in this circuit.

Also, you'll want to keep in mind that batteries have a tendency to regain their charge voltage wise after a sudden discharge, so a joule thief might cut off, then cycle on and off again before it's really 'dead'.

The math is relatively simple, if you have a 2450mAh battery, then you have 2.45 amps or 2450 miliamps at your disposal for one hour.  Batteries, again, can be somewhat deceptive, as it may in fact be capable of supplying 3 or 4 amps over the life of a complete slow drain.

Sticking to the basics:  using 100mA your circuit will run for 24.5 hours it just a matter of turning mAh into mA.

Depending on your configuration, there will come a voltage point that the transistor will stop turning completely on and the current will simple bleed through to ground via the base-emitter path.  This is when the device may consume more milliamps that when it would loaded and the battery will become depleted for the duration of it being connected.

The only way to know is to compare the battery's performance to one which you know the properties of - this would be rather difficult because of the differing properties of manufactured AA cells (or what have you) and the various 'states' the circuit source finds itself in.


Stated perfectly and you are right about the JT using more power toward death.  Usually either the ma draw increases or stays the same but the voltage draw increases...there is a give and take to keep the circuit running.....well most of the time!

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« Reply #13193 on: March 27, 2010, 02:54:43 PM »
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« Reply #13194 on: March 27, 2010, 02:56:56 PM »
what have you ever done POSER ?  ... 

TRY TO STEAL MY WORK ? 

COPY A CORE YOU FOUND IN A MICROWAVE ...   

AND CALL IT YOUR OWN ... 

LMFAO... 

FOOL ... 

GO BUILD MY COIL AGIN ....  LOL... 

and then try to tell me it is yours ..  then ill digg up my post from literly years b4 you came around ... fool ...

i guess you didnt know ... 

I BET THE HOLE SITE KNOWS THE TRUTH ....  : )

WHY CAN I SPEAK MY MIND ?

WHY ? 

HOW COME I HAVE NOT BEEN SET TO READ ONLY ...  .. 

SHALL I PUT EDDY THE GOAT BACK IN THE BARN TOO .... ? 

CARE TO JOIN PONY ?

LMFAO

W

and mark if your coil is better than a cam board ...  useing 1 transistor ...  show me ...  : ) 

i want to see a video of your coil  chargeing a large value cap to hundreds of volts .. in less then 20 seconds ...  from a aaa

350vdc 2500 uf..   

and i AINT TALKING A TIP 31 OR A 3055 ...  IM TALKING A TINY NPN TRANSISTOR ... : )

SURE I CAN FILL CAPS FAST TOO IF I USE A TIP OR A 3055 OR OTHERS....  : ) 

WICH I HAVE SPOKEN OF PUBLIC HOW AND WHY THEY WORK MUCH BETTER ... 

AND SLAYER 007 COVERED THIS SO........YOU CANT TRY TO STEAL HIS WORK EATHER ....

btw MARK   you remind me of seymore climeing up in the sick a more tree .. to see what he could see..... 

hummmmmm....

you will LEARN OF MY PALACE  BY RUNNING BACKWARD ...  THIS IS FACT !   in doing so im trying to teach you to walk forward ..   this is why some of my things are revielied ... only to point the way of the truth ..

so the truth is   almost all is forgiven where i come from ...   but NOBODY GOES 15 FOR FREE ...

that means ...  im standing at the door !

: )

just like it allways has been ... 

why all the birds in stone anywhy?

lol   
« Last Edit: March 27, 2010, 06:56:51 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13195 on: March 27, 2010, 03:14:32 PM »
Thank you for the kind words IST!  I'm deffintely not done with this circuit but I am putting it on hold for a while!

you bet ...  that unit is a kicker !  best i have seen !

: )

yet ..  not to say anyone elses is worse ... 

gadget made a wicket unit kooler did too and others ...

however what you have build .. is second to none !  : )

: )

cant waite till you build more .. 

and your verry good at makeing videos and explaineing things ! 

thank you ! 

xee#2   that cridder can draw ... : ) 
lol

im no good at drawings ..   that is why i dont make one ...  aswell it is so simple that ONE  should not need a drawing ...

: )

H

i do agree a drawing will be required when i combine many of my toys to a single unit ...

but its more a blue print than a circut drawing ... : )

here is 1 more for you mark ! WHO IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO TELL ME WHO I AM ... LOL AND HAVE PISS ALL FOR PROOF ... 

I HAVE WELL OVER 5 YEARS OF RESEARCH THAT SUPER SCEEDS MOST ON THIS PLANET!

when i released my TURBINE SELFRUNNING CONCEPT! AKA A POSITIVE FEED BACK LOOP .. DUH ... 

I SENT PLANS TO HUNDREDS OF UNIVERSITIES ....  : p 

RIGHT DOWN TO A 1000TH OF AN INCH ... 

guess what they never called me back ... not a 1 ... lol   ever wonder why ?  : )

think it worked or not ?   

: P

all the plans were sent free of charge and by there request !  i never contacted 1 of them ... they all found me ....

« Last Edit: March 27, 2010, 07:18:08 PM by innovation_station »

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« Reply #13195 on: March 27, 2010, 03:14:32 PM »
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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13196 on: March 27, 2010, 07:58:04 PM »
@ist

Come suck me dick fruit , and for assuming i was gay , you are a asshole .

And a clown .  ::)

And btw if you really want to insult me , you will have to find something else.

Your Ego has taken over , you can't see anymore .

Va dont chiez !

And btw yes i did find a toroid already wound but not a jt , i did put the 2 extra wire and did see the potential it had ...

I never names it , others names it like me , not my fault there ...

So people are just better then you , learn to live with it ...

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« Reply #13197 on: March 27, 2010, 08:02:08 PM »
i have been able to fill a cap  of low voltage ...  via a jt ..  high uf rate ... and have it self fire through a BURNT OUT CTYSTAL DIODE GONE SPARK GAP ... 

............

that being said ...   i plunk the battery cap b4 the self fireing caps that then feed the inline  quenched magnetic spark gap ... b4 the neozap amp .. 


W

when you add the neo zap you allow your self access to magnetic currents ...  : )   now similar things take place when you do a quenched magnetic spark gap ... however there interaction with 1 and other  is diffrent ...  it can be saclar in nature magnetic electromagnetic electric ...  and others ..... angles play a roll 

polarity  many things ...

: )

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Re: Jule Thief
« Reply #13198 on: March 27, 2010, 08:15:10 PM »
Take JT, charge cap, discharge into coil,let the coil collapse and reacharge cap.You will improve design or.. make it self-running...  ::)

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« Reply #13199 on: March 27, 2010, 08:47:56 PM »
Take JT, charge cap, discharge into coil,let the coil collapse and reacharge cap.You will improve design or.. make it self-running...  ::)


: )

now this man knows hes a man .... 

unlike lil britt!   

lol

W

 

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