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TinselKoala

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2008, 01:31:21 AM »
Hmmm-HEYDUDE told me about this thread and suggested I go here with rotating plasma demonstration from JK to avoid cluttering the MAC CD thread.
It's somewhat off topic by now, but here it is anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grPo81fBrA

I would be interested to hear alternative explanations of the effect.
Without derailing this thread, of course.
Thanks, HEYDUDE!

innovation_station

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2008, 01:59:33 AM »
It's possible this is not the TV to which SM referred.  Or it's possible the govt decided 'could cause X-Rays' sounded better than 'could suck you and your loved-ones through an infinitessimally small hole into a parallel antimatter universe'.    ;)

well well

hummmm   kinda nice to know what we play with aint it ....


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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2008, 02:55:38 AM »
and back to the subject at hand...

What force would cause magnetic materials to twist as they came out of the wall and then propel them through a semi-solid body?

This was not magnetic.  Not electrostatic.  Much more potent.

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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2008, 03:17:17 AM »
Here's my take on it:

We know that the deflection yoke has two frequencies going into it to control the horizontal and vertical tracing pattern on the CRT screen. Lets say that something happens to one of the two circuits that controls the frequency of this tracing circuit such that the electron beam is caused to rotate in a circle. If the frequency is just right, and the phase shift is just right, it wouldn't take long to build up a 'supercurrent' of electrons rotating within the space of the yoke. This could for an instant build up a magnetic field many orders of magnitude greater than anything achievable with a coil since the electron beam constitutes a convection current, which, unlike conduction currents have just about no resistance in vacuum. So imagine what happens if this 'supercoil' of electrons creating this hyper-intense magnetic field were to collapse if something burned out? The collapsing field from a beast like that could easily have caused some of the effects mentioned.

Just my two cents  ;)

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Jason O

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2008, 03:48:45 AM »
TinselKoala

Thanks for the very nice rotating plasma demonstration. It is definitely on this topic. We welcome further explorations into such related phenomena.

To all

Thanks for participating in this thread. So far there has been a lot of good information and ideas coming forth.

HD

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2008, 04:04:32 AM »
Jason,

quite possibly....but as you see in the picture posted by Marco there are our three coils as mmentioned By Steven.

These coils were used to align the beams (convergence coils) so that they struck the correct phosphor dots on the tube face and were dyanamically adjustable and fed from pulses comming from  both the vertical and horizontal scan circuits  ..Marco has some excellent circuits that would be  good to run a few heads over here to try and make a nasty fault from th driving tube circuit.

Perhaps the presence of the ht was vital for the effect to manifest its self ....the problem is that we are working on a bomb here .

If you dont get zapped by the ht perhaps the xrays will get you.

These aspects explain much of the reluctance to give instructions to all and sundry to blow themselves up.

Steven has pointed out the speed of tubes more than once  perhaps its high voltage as well.

Over to you marco

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2008, 04:30:04 AM »
Been googling about ... slow at work today!


www.fnal.gov/projects/muon_collider/eexchange/Meetings/Kickers/kicknote.pdf


this sort of thing is along the lines of this tv story

Would any body in the Chicago area  care to do some real foot work for us here and research the story for us ?
It would have made to papers there i would think.

Takling with people over 65 would be a good start to nail the date
When color tv first came to australia in 1973 or so , there were stories about the colour tv 's killing people..I never followed any of them up and put them down to media hype. After all...I was a tv tech and i knew better didnt I????

I was 18 and knew absolutely everything about everything  at that time. HA!


Lindsay



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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2008, 05:23:36 AM »
and back to the subject at hand...

What force would cause magnetic materials to twist as they came out of the wall and then propel them through a semi-solid body?

This was not magnetic.  Not electrostatic.  Much more potent.

Not spinning currents.   What would pull conductors towards itself?   Come on.   Visualize the "lines of force". 

There is the "aether rotation" which rotates about a point and then there is the "aether vortex" which converges at a point.

There is your antigrav - FunkyJive - an aether vortex.

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2008, 05:58:11 AM »
Hello all,

ever mixed a high frequency with a 50 or 60Hz AC signal?? in 1 wire??

Otto

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2008, 06:10:35 AM »

awsome OTTO!!

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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2008, 06:26:43 AM »
Hello all,

@Gobaga

so you tried it??

Otto

PS: is it impossible that when the TV imploded there was a mix of the 15..kHz and the 60Hz from the heating of the tubes???
Didnt SM mentioned this 12,6V?? AC!!

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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2008, 10:28:33 AM »
I see that the orientation of the flyback transformer is in different than all the modern CTR devices (televisions, computer monitors) that I have seen.

I think the same orientation  may be found in the Hutchison phenomenon, or at very least the Herzian waves (ie. electromagnetic waves [ie. electric and magnetic fields at right angles]) inter react with each other at the proper phase to "co-"manipulate the matter they interact with to produce the movement of matter (both electron and proton) in a similar sense or direction.

I think that the magnetic field, when it is rotating, does have a time lag depending on the direction of rotation. Left handedness over right handedness. (And I still can not absolutely verify this. Just something I have experienced, whether it be a falsehood or not, I do not know.)

I also think that the time lag determines whether a right handed or a left handed rotation will be stable or not.

I read in the Scientific American magazine a couple of years ago that the perturbations in the orbits of the planets could be explained by introducing a vector or outside force (direction of travel perhaps ) to the equation. This could be a prevailing force in what Tesla would call the aether, or I would call a character of the prevailing magnetic flux from our immediately larger system, the Milky Way galaxy. Anyway you call it, it is a force that prefers one direction of rotation to another. Same thing  exists in oriental philosophy and native American philosophy.

I don't know for sure.

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2008, 06:59:24 PM »
To build up an artificial gravityfield, there must be a guide like nested, cylindrical EM field present, to collect and compress the ZPE field locally.
To build up such a field,  HV chargepoints must be accelerated, to create an EM field structure.
With a TV , it can be possible, both by a internal resonance effects, or with the external influence of the rotating magnetic fields, that is rotating in a radial E-field near the screen.

Esa

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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2008, 01:25:57 AM »
Well unexplained things happen and will continue to happen
Matter meets antimatter?  Just as strange as instantaneous combustion it exists but what is its Cause?
I once worked for Canadian Gen Electric in those Years never had or heard of an incident like this here in
Canada. X Rays nah..... There are many more devices that produce higher amounts of X Rays than a shielded TV.
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Re: TALE OF THE IMPLODING TV
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2008, 05:43:02 AM »
To build up an artificial gravityfield, there must be a guide like nested, cylindrical EM field present, to collect and compress the ZPE field locally.
To build up such a field,  HV chargepoints must be accelerated, to create an EM field structure.
With a TV , it can be possible, both by a internal resonance effects, or with the external influence of the rotating magnetic fields, that is rotating in a radial E-field near the screen.

Esa

Great post Esa.

I think the shape of the induced effec had a great deal to do with the results.  like I said, there is a rotating field, and then there is a true vortex, and I think the xploding TV had the vortex, an aether vortex patterned into and odd combination of electric and magnetic properties, that resulted in this mishap.