Hi folks, hi Gyula. That explains it, I was never able to see that website because I discovered the forum thread apparently too late, always wondered why my registering to his site went nowhere. i assume his pulse motor forum is dead now. Anyway, I am setting up a prony brake bar to test it so I should soon have an idea of the efficiency. Although It must be said as im sure your aware, that because it uses both coil poles and has absolutely no back attraction to cores or any collapsing field effects causing drag (back emf) and limits the collapsing spike which is nice for keeping transistors alive. Now i cant say for sure that it lessens lentz (cemf) however i have noticed i can bring a cap thats being charged from collapsing field lower in voltage than in most pulse motors ive built which may indicate less counter voltage being induced. Also if your aware of a motor called kawai motor, its efficiency which is claimed to be at least 315% derives its efficiency mainly from the fact that it cancels the flux of the stator coil that its leaving by diverting it away by energizing the next coil ahead eliminating drag back. Now isnt that what Garrys pulse motor does while still maintaining high density flux for coil attraction, unless a ferro core is needed to get the extra output seen in the kawai motor but if not then i would say garrys pulse motor probably is 200% at least based on this knowledge. Even the muller motor uses the same idea to get the extra output, eliminate the work required to move a magnet pole around. the difference here i think is that with garys design we can get practical torque levels by having that compressed permanent magnet field such that any other geometry would not be adequate to produce useful levels of shaft power.

peace, love, light   

@nali
it take only 10 or 20 watts, because it must not deliver any outut in electric or mechanic output !
EM

   If the lines of force from a pm are bent away into a magnetic shielding material like zinc or lead or the special stuff on the back of speakers and there is a slot in this material that forms a rotor what happens now.  The stator laminations have to be such that the steel transmits the magnetic energy and after that returns to magnetic polarization depending on the Earth's magnetic field.  This would entail attention to the retaintence of the core.   This overunity effect has already been done many times with a flyback transformer.  300volts in ballasted 30kv out.  The free energy is in the draw from the magnetic energy of the Earth or whatever demagnitises the core of the flyback.  Just a matter of what you do with that 30kv potential you get in reactive energy that does not come at the expense of the input pulses. 

Hi Supermuble,

yes correct. This is Steve Gillis and you are right, this is where I read his statement that he believes a certain type of magneto-design used in Ford T - Model ( 1930 I guess ) has a good chance to OU-Output. In this german Journal
there was some statement from Ford-Management that he mentioned - at the verge of the struggle for power by the bankers ( Gas versus electricity- Tesla ) that Ford would be able to run the car on electricity alone ( of this magneto delivering up to 40 Horespowers ) and leave the Gas-Bankers alone. You have to know that this magneto had a double-function : it worked as an alternator and an ignition-system.

But please again, look at power-output of the magneto versus a standard-ignition-system. This tells the story.
Why I was posting this : It is directly linked to Thanes development and to this topic here

@BEP : If you talk about phase-shift here we have to destingiuish between primary and secondary coil. If you use a saw-tooth signal as driver-signal on  primary of a flyback - as I said - the slow ascending slope will give time enough for the current to rise. I have tested this. If you switch on a  primary with a rectangular wave you will observe a 45 Degree falling-slope of the voltage at the primary. This means - no current-full voltage at start. If the end  of ths triagle is reached - current is at the maximum. This maximum can be controled by the time the sawtooth is switched on and the voltage-level of the sypply and the saturation-level of the core. Now you counteract this behaviour of a rectangular waveform with a sawtooth. You do not switch voltage instantly to full level but slowly in a 45 degree slope to give the current time to reach its maximum.After the sawtooth has suddenly switched off the magnetic orientation of the ferrite-elements return back - as sparks said it already - and you have a very high Voltage at the secondary which - when under load - can not communicate its kickback-force to the sender ( controller ) at the primary - as it is switched off.
Now I hope you get the point : You can control this by the on-off-ratio and the puls-width of the sawtooth. If the ratio is - let say 20 % - there might be a chance that the kickback runs into the next following sawtooth-pattern.

Now back to the magneto : The configuration of the german website is the one in my favour because this principle here is the mechanical interrupter which cuts of the current in the primary at a certain angle-position and thus works close to what I have described above.

http://www.motoruf.de/mo/info/Arbeitsweise_der_Zuendanlage.php

Just look at the pic below the Heading :
"ARBEITSWEISE DER TECUMSEH-MAGNETZÃœNDUNG "

It is almost the same configuration of  the presnet coil-design of Thanes Perepiteia.

I am really sorry - but I could not find any english website presenting this very information. But I will try - if there is time - to translate this into english and present it here.

@BEP : Look at the attached pic. Here I performed the cap-switch-experiment of user nul_points. You can see
the full level of voltage in the beginning and then the slope-down as current increases which reflects itself due to the coil-resistance as voltage-drop.

I will present another scopeshot of the scame circuit at the same moment of time - in the next post - of the current-rising-up at  2-ohm-Resistor placed in the source of the Mosfet-switch.

Regards

Kator01

Now back to the magneto : The configuration of the german website is the one in my favour because this principle here is the mechanical interrupter which cuts of the current in the primary at a certain angle-position and thus works close to what I have described above.

http://www.motoruf.de/mo/info/Arbeitsweise_der_Zuendanlage.php

Just look at the pic below the Heading :
"ARBEITSWEISE DER TECUMSEH-MAGNETZÃœNDUNG "

It is almost the same configuration of  the presnet coil-design of Thanes Perepiteia.

I am really sorry - but I could not find any english website presenting this very information. But I will try - if there is time - to translate this into english and present it here.

Hi Folks,

Here is a google translation from German to English,  much better than guessing:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motoruf.de%2Fmo%2Finfo%2FArbeitsweise_der_Zuendanlage.php&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en

rgds,  Gyula

Khabe, good experiment! That must be the basis for inductive heating?

In discussion of the magneto please be aware the most power producing function is this:

When the rotating magnet creates a flux circuit between the left and middle core parts this is like stacking a pile of bricks higher than normal.
When that same magnet then builds a flux circuit between the middle and right core parts it is reversing the previous polarity causing that high stack of bricks to fall. This reversal or 'fall' is more energetic. This creates the higher output of voltage AND energy as compared to simply applying the magnet , off and on, to a two pole core.

I believe @Sparks described it better. Basically there are more magnetic domains to flip during that reversal. This as opposed to a common spark ignition coil having voltage applied and removed to create flyback for spark.

Yes, this man was a genius.

If you want similar performance from a common ignition coil - I suppose you could hit the primary with alternating pulses (crossing zero) but then you would need a way to stop CEMF during half the cycle, like the 'points' do in the magneto.