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kinesisfilms

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resonant charging choke
« on: November 17, 2008, 03:55:30 AM »
a choke has its own resonance, and at its resonance it's capacitance, inductance, and resistance are highest.
http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/basics/chokes.htm

using a choke as a charging inductor in a resonant circuit.....a resonant choke in a resonant circuit.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/charging.jpg)

resonant charging choke as stated in the patent.
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definition from the book stated above.
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(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/electronicdictionarychoke.jpg)

AhuraMazda

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Re: resonant charging choke
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2008, 11:46:09 PM »
resonant charging choke as stated in the patent.
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@kinesisfilms

What is the patent number you are refering to?

kinesisfilms

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Re: resonant charging choke
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 10:41:47 AM »
i think it's 4936961....the image referencing the book i scanned is from the patent i am referring too....

kinesisfilms

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Re: resonant charging choke
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 10:42:19 AM »
OK FIRST OFF
there are different forms of resonance......let's say natural and artificial......and AC and DC........

let's explain that since there is a diode in this circuit then yuo can never have NATURAL RESONANCE.....so it has to be artificial and manually forced to happen which is achieved with gating.....
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so let's ask ourselves what happens in natural resonance when the inductor is full.....well at resoanant frequency when hte inductor is full it discharges into the capcitor until the capacitor is full which then the capacitor discharges into the inductor back and forth over and over like a pendulum.

So to achieve this with gating we must gate the pulsed frequency right when the capacitor achieves it's full charge....so then the inductor can begin to step charge the process all over again......and right when our 50% duty cycle pulse passes the diode it becomes half wave rectified never passing the 0 volt level......AKA DC........so we have DC RESONANCE.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/resoanancegating.jpg)

NOW THAT WE HAVE THE SECOND HALF OUR RESONANT FREQUENCY WE MUST DETERMINE THE FIRST HALF.

THE KEY IMPORTANT FACTOR HERE IS NOT THE GATING BETWEEN THE CAPACITOR AND THE INDUCTOR SINCE ANYONE WITH AN OSCOPE CAN EASILY ACHIEVE THIS VISUALLY.

THE KEY HERE IS THE OPTIMUM FREQUENCY OF YOUR BIFILAR CHOKE.

this is the true resonant frequency......the frequency your bifilar choke resonates at.......

first you need to take your bifilar choke connected as aaron m connects it where it says 192%
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/wf_meyer_aaron_forum_coils1.jpg)

THIS MAKES IT'S DISTRIBUTED CAPACITANCE THE MAXIMUM IT CAN BE AS IN TESLAS PATENT.

this is a key factor here......sending in a frequency under resonance and your bifilar choke will not have a capacitance and no second pulse on the off pulse........using a frequency above resonance.....capacitance will overtake induction defeating the gating resonance......so how do you find the optimum frequency of your bifilar choke???

i have no idea how to do it mathematically but....if you have a spectrum analyzer....hook your probe to only one side of the bifilar......the one after the diode in the schematic.....do a frequency sweep of 50% duty cycle (can't be done with a lawton circuit)....until you haveyour peak point.......this is the frequency you will be pumping into your vic.....you then take that frequency apply it to your system and then gate the frequency getting your VIC resonant frequency.

as for a transformer.....you can use a simple audio line matching transformer used in reversed.....if you apply 12 volts at a 50% duty cycle it will be 6 volts ac......this goes into the transformer and is stepped up to around 30-40 volts......

in the new zealand video stan says "see the beautiful thing of it is is since your using audio frequencies you can use an audio transformer).......

what does all the work in this system is the stepup transformer and the bifilar charging choke........

if you break each part down, and learn each part, you can understand the whole.

i am getting a spectrum analyzer......there will be photos and videos when i have the patent fully replicated.

ALL THE FOCUS COMES ON THE CHOKES OPTIMUM FREQUENCY......THIS IS THE KEY FACTOR......

i can't stress enough the importance of find the optimum frequency to make your choke a resonant charging choke.......THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.....probablly the most overlooked part since the average person has no way of figuring this out.

Jokker

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Re: resonant charging choke
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2008, 01:13:56 PM »
It is a simple LRC  circuit...

i cant cant understand why pulse is going from low to high amplitude.
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kinesisfilms

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Re: resonant charging choke
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2008, 07:56:09 PM »
what do you mean low to high amplitude.....first off it's not a simple LRC circuit......its a self resonating bifilar coil (250,000 times greater distributed capacitance than a normal inductor) resonating in series with a capacitor.......so not only is the bifilar adding in addition to holding back current and stepping up voltage but the cap and inductor dc resonating through gating is also aiding in the high voltage amplitude......i have spent so much time trying to find wayhs to make this circuit work....only to find out that it never worked the way stan stated.......but i have finally done it......HIS CIRCUIT INDEED DOES EVERYTHING HE SAYS IT DOES.....no tricks no lies only a completely honest man......we have just not be looking at it clearly enough......

please ask more questions....i will help you understand what is going on here.

Goat

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Re: resonant charging choke
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 12:43:41 AM »
@ kinesisfilms

what do you mean low to high amplitude.....first off it's not a simple LRC circuit......its a self resonating bifilar coil (250,000 times greater distributed capacitance than a normal inductor) resonating in series with a capacitor.......so not only is the bifilar adding in addition to holding back current and stepping up voltage but the cap and inductor dc resonating through gating is also aiding in the high voltage amplitude......i have spent so much time trying to find wayhs to make this circuit work....only to find out that it never worked the way stan stated.......but i have finally done it......HIS CIRCUIT INDEED DOES EVERYTHING HE SAYS IT DOES.....no tricks no lies only a completely honest man......we have just not be looking at it clearly enough......

please ask more questions....i will help you understand what is going on here.

Just in case (Lord Forbid) you should get hit by the "Bus of Life" tomorrow, could you post an exact schematic of how you "Did It"  ;D

It would help a lot for all the believers as well as nay-sayers to put an end to this mystery  ;D

God Speed   ;)

Regards,
Paul

kinesisfilms

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Re: resonant charging choke
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 01:30:17 AM »
the schematic is the one from the patent.....i need to get a spectrum analyzer so my second pulse is equivalent to my first pulse....then i will post everything.