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sm0ky2

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Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« on: November 14, 2008, 02:45:43 AM »

AB Hammer

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2008, 03:53:12 AM »
Interesting, it may be worth a build for conformation.

Bulbz

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2008, 04:22:05 AM »
I'm not convinced that those tiny coils could provide the power to run the motor.  :-\

Bulbz

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2008, 04:23:56 AM »
More to the point... There doesn't seem to be any capacitors.  ???

nievesoliveras

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2008, 04:43:39 AM »
@all

I have been trying to contact that guy for a long time to buy the plans he offered, but to no avail. Anyone has gotten those plans and want to post them?

Goat

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2008, 04:44:11 AM »
Well it's down to a "Self running and self charging 1.5V watch battery", still looks worth building compared to other projects  ;D

Bulbz

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2008, 03:06:32 PM »
Well it's down to a "Self running and self charging 1.5V watch battery", still looks worth building compared to other projects  ;D

Ah !... That's why I cannot see any caps or batteries  :-[.

petersone

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2008, 03:44:25 PM »
It would be interesting to see what it's suspended from,may be a nice big 12v battery!!!
peter

TinselKoala

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2008, 06:24:37 PM »
What's the big deal here?

You can see the watch battery (batteries?) in their holder at 0:07. It's the orangish thing just to the right of the bridge rectifier at the 6 oclock position.

We all know that a pulse motor, if well designed, needs only tiny little miniscule low-power pulses to run.

We also know that the batteries will eventually run out.

How about showing an oscillograph of the voltage to one of the coils on one trace, and the current drawn from the battery on the other (use voltage drop across a known resistor, for example).

AB Hammer

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2008, 11:56:44 PM »
Good eyes TinselKoala  Good eyes.

Bulbz

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 03:32:09 AM »
Good eyes TinselKoala  Good eyes.

Evidently better than mine  ;D.

Goat

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2008, 05:59:19 AM »
@All

This has been around since last July, I remember it from another thread, just too lazy to go find it right now but at the time the order page http://ohio-overunity.tripod.com/id2.html was stating that he wasn't ready for orders and now it's at "Check Back near End of August" so I'm not sure where he's at with the kit. At any rate I don't think the plans are a show stopper  :) the design reminds me of the Bedini generator that Jim Watson built, it's nice and clean and doesn't have complicated electronics so it should be easy enough to build for the average man ;)

Version 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbF63Gzvtd4 from July 22, 2008

"Self running motor-gen-combo. Using 6 power coils. Starts off slow but spins up "

Version 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWpB3peU3Uk&feature=related is the part4 video of the Mini-Motor-Gen from July 23, 2008. This model is the 2 battery system where he was working towards an automatic switching for the batteries from source to charge battery.  In this video he displays voltage readings.

"Self Running, Self Powering Mini-Motor-Generator. Overunity has been achieved in this model. It is just enough to keep itself powered up. I did not need to populate the Base with all 16 coils that I had built the Template for. Keep in mind that by Request People wanted to see a running Model made from parts you could get from Radio Shack and local stores. I am stopping for now at this point and starting on full size version that will power a house by running it's power it produces into a few Power-Invertor's and that power into Line conditioning transformer to get the 40 Amps of 220 volts AC I need. When I switched the Rotor disc to an actual NEO-Mag with much more strength the same exact base assembly put out 51 Volts DC. I was amazed. I have a manual set of switches on this clear plastic model shown. 1 to select run Battery, the other to select charge to battery. The new Full size model will Auto Switch to avoid EXPLODING the Battery Pack or Frying the Power Invertor's."

Regards,
Paul

TinselKoala

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2008, 06:35:44 PM »
Why why why do ALL these "self-runners" and Bedini motors and overunity battery chargers need a battery at all in the first place?
Seems like a rather glaring flaw, to me.

mscoffman

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2008, 07:08:02 PM »
Why why why do ALL these "self-runners" and Bedini motors and overunity battery chargers need a battery at all in the first place?
Seems like a rather glaring flaw, to me.

Because the energy gain in these systems is not from the magnetics in the motor but from chemical
assisted CF cold fusion in battery. If acoustics can form cavitation bubbles energy in a CF reactor,
Why can't high voltage pulses form them in acid lead batteries? They can and do, and produce
energy gain there. CF doesn't happen in capacitors, but you can't pulse capacitors beyond
their working voltage either.

Very often in a closed loop system (self running system) you want batteries to kick things off,
but you must not pulse the batteries or you will get gain there. You must have batteries that
float in the loop. Overunity is when a self running systems load energy use has exceed the
capacity of the battery to supply the load.

:S:MSCoffman



TinselKoala

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Re: Self Running Motor on You Tube??
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2008, 11:39:16 PM »
OK, I'll accept that as an answer that has some "face validity", that is, it seems like a plausible answer.

But I have to ask, isn't it a bit "post hoc", that is, it has the feeling of something that was thought of specifically to explain the need for batteries.

So I have to ask, is there any experimental evidence for cold fusion or any other process in batteries, other than the usual chemical reactions, that produce excess energy?

(And if you point to the performance of Bedini-style "self-running" motors as evidence, I'll just have to pound my head against the keyboard some more...)