GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Plug Heater

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 83018
  • *Latest: Jirosali

  • *Total Posts: 502831
  • *Total Topics: 15031
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 3
  • *Guests: 19
  • *Total: 22

Author Topic: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications  (Read 29769 times)

Offline Tigrotto

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 80
Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« on: November 12, 2008, 06:13:20 PM »
Hi to all,
I want here to open a trade ( I hope interested for some of you) by means of which I want to contact persons who did the same experiments like mine: accumulator charging using pyramids.
Two words at the beginging of this thread:
1.I did some experiments managing to charge batteries under pyramid.
2.I repeated these experiments successfully.
3.I tried to improve the quality of the effect and I'm working right now on this.
My puropose is to cooperate only with experimentators doing the same work like I did. 
Thanks to all of you ,
Tigrotto
traderfx05@yahoo.com.au

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline pece70

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2008, 01:24:47 AM »
Hi Tigrotto,
   still you working on this project?

Cesare

Offline spacetrax

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 109
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2008, 07:51:31 AM »
Hi,

I never tried to charge accumulators under pyramid. Are you talking about lead acid accumulators? I have 6 volt and 12 volt accumulators lying around and I still have the 1 meter pyramid made after the instructions of Thomas Trawoeger.
So, what I can do to replicate your results?

Hi to all,
I want here to open a trade ( I hope interested for some of you) by means of which I want to contact persons who did the same experiments like mine: accumulator charging using pyramids.
Two words at the beginging of this thread:
1.I did some experiments managing to charge batteries under pyramid.
2.I repeated these experiments successfully.
3.I tried to improve the quality of the effect and I'm working right now on this.
My puropose is to cooperate only with experimentators doing the same work like I did. 
Thanks to all of you ,
Tigrotto
traderfx05@yahoo.com.au


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2008, 07:51:31 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline pece70

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2008, 02:01:26 PM »
If it could be useful, I tried to charge lead acid 12 Volt batteries.
I put them at 1/3 h of the pyramid, nord oriented, with positive pole of the battery in the same direction.
The battery recharged itself at 2/3 of the maximum. It took one or two days.
I haven't done any "perfect" measurement. This was an experimental evidence that "Something" is real by itself.
Standing from this evidence I were intersted in amplification of the result.

I'm building up a very perfect pyramidal shape, made of copper filled tube (2,5 cm), base: 21cm x h:21cm.
My tests restart from here.

I'm interested in radionic resarch too.
At the present time I know from radionc that electricity passing on a wire emits (other than EM field, of course) some other radiations, one fo them is called "negative green" (that is a form based radiation, named by DeBelizal and Chaumery).
Furthemore, I know that at the 1/3 h of the pyramid there is this the negative green radiation (very dangerous for human beings, be aware!), in the form of a sphere.
So, right now, I wondering if there exis some way to convert one in to another and viceversa.





Offline amigo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2008, 04:02:48 AM »
pece70,

I'm wondering, how do you know the battery did not recharge itself without the influence of the pyramid?

You know that batteries recover some charge over time so perhaps a better experiment would be to get two batteries, drain them simultaneously and then put one under a pyramid and keep the other on the shelf as a control sample.

But, aside from batteries, I am interested in the geometry and radionics and will be conducting experiments in the future. I am looking into works of Les Brown with crystals and pyramids, as well.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2008, 04:02:48 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Tigrotto

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 80
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2008, 08:52:53 AM »
Hi friends,
As i was the person starting this thread, i have to apologize with you for my delay in answering.
I'll answer to all of you:
1. I was really the moderator of the Thomas Trawoeger thread, and...maybe the " first person" to whom thomas spoke very frequently.
Results: It didn't work! He had his "good reasons" to do this .
2. Let's focus on the simple things as I proposed here to you,
I did the pyramid charging accumulators many times , on the same accumulator, ascerting about the level of charging previously. I know the accumulators "rise its charging status by itself" and accurate measurements on the same accumulator were taken in order to state that : something its happened there!
3. The strange thing is this: not only the accumulators, but only the Ni-Cd batteries can be charged. Here is where I am right now.
What's my proposal :
A. To go ahead together those really experimented these phenomena. Today I'll put here my results, sinthesysing them.
B. Many years I did these tests and I know what I mean. so that, to those of you trying to replicate: be sure about the charging status of the batteries/ accumulators prior to start.
Some clues / tricks  for experimentators:
1. Never start with a 0% charged battery/ accumulator
2. Use the same object and characterize its charging behaviour prior to start
3. Monitoryze the phenomena in " real time"  , that is realm time recording of the Current/ Voltage across a resistor in the electric circuit.
To those of you who tested this phenomena : please be so kind as post here the experiment details, otherwise a newby can easily fail !
Tigrotto
traderfx05@yahoo.com.au

Offline elektromann

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2008, 01:45:39 PM »
The first treads from TT says following:
"Ask Pese , that I am Thomas Trawoeger in person".
Because he know him from 2005/2006 from the time
that he have also started to teach his
invention (and have stop it because preferred
contract with an energy company.(that he
have the knowledge. Also he know that TT´s
reseach was an finished construction have delivered
even "times more" power, that he was not published
because his web-pages was "killed" .(from ennemies?)

I remember (as reader) that Tigrotto was "Kicked out"
as moderator, offcause his unwanted contacts and calls.
He is only interested to collect all knowledges for
his own use.
Thats all that is to belive.
EM

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2008, 01:45:39 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline spacetrax

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 109
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 08:16:19 PM »
Regarding the way the Great Pyramid worked, here they are very important facts and hints put together:

1. In the Great Pyramid, hydrogen was produced. See stone plugs with electrodes found in the tunnels going from Queens Room: http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.html 
 Also, water was pumped inside the pyramid from the underground well, for hydrogen production via electrolysis and/or for producing sounds of different frequencies in a water whistle which was comprised of the Kings Ante-Chamber and the Great Gallery. Maybe the huge granit stones from over the Kings Chamber helped producing specific sound frequencies, by resonating to the prime sound.

2. The Kings Chamber + Great Gallery were designed as a very good resonator for specific sound frequencies. The Kings Coffer resonates at 438 Hz. I suppose that thy pyramid was NOT collecting Earth`s vibrations for transforming them in sounds, as Christopher Dunn proposes, but sounds produced in the pyramid caused the vibration of the limestone blocks for the purpose showed a little later.

3. The recently published work of Doctors Haisch and Moddel, the device proposed by BlackLightPower as resumed on the website http://byzipp.com/energy/blog2.php  speak for the production of energy from the ZPE quantum field via 2nm calcium spheres shielding hydrogen molecules from the action of the virtual particles of the ZPE field.

So, I propose that the way of extracting energy in the Great Pyramid was something like this:

a. hydrogen was produced by chemical reaction or by electrolysis in the Queens Chamber and was diffused through the tunnels inside the limestone blocks of the pyramid body, thus enriching the blocks with hydrogen and pressing many hydrogen atoms inside the calcium spheres. I remember that Thomas Trawoeger said once on his forum that only pyramids covered with gypsum plates will work. Gypsum plates contain calcium.

b. in the same time or after the production of hydrogen, strong sounds came into play comprising many frequencies at the same time. Lower frequencies caused the whole pyramid body to vibrate, thus creating the sensation of an alternating magnetic field from the Earth magnet field. Higher sound frequencies were maybe used for the extracting of the hydrinos formed inside the calcium spheres.

c. somehow all these actions caused the creation of an immense HEAT inside the pyramid, especially in the Kings Chamber. Remember the meaning of the greek word PYRA-MID: pyra=fire and mid=middle. So, PYRAMID means FIRE IN THE MIDDLE, the ancient greeks knew that. I don´t know how the builders of the pyramids collected and used the energy thus created.

I hope that someone with more technical knowledge and financial means can make a working modell based on this assumption. And please, post the results here. Normally when somebody has something of great value, tries to sell that thing to the highest bidder, as Thomas Trawoeger did. Let`s hope that the next Thomas Trawoeger will make the sacrifice and post his results for free, for the benefit of the Nature, if not for the benefit of the mankind.

Offline spacetrax

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 109
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2008, 08:20:18 PM »
See my previous post and then think:

1. accumulators have hydrogen in their electrolyte
2. some lead acid accumulators contain calcium
3. thus heat is produced
4. batteries are charged by heat.

What do you think?

Hi friends,
As i was the person starting this thread, i have to apologize with you for my delay in answering.
I'll answer to all of you:
1. I was really the moderator of the Thomas Trawoeger thread, and...maybe the " first person" to whom thomas spoke very frequently.
Results: It didn't work! He had his "good reasons" to do this .
2. Let's focus on the simple things as I proposed here to you,
I did the pyramid charging accumulators many times , on the same accumulator, ascerting about the level of charging previously. I know the accumulators "rise its charging status by itself" and accurate measurements on the same accumulator were taken in order to state that : something its happened there!
3. The strange thing is this: not only the accumulators, but only the Ni-Cd batteries can be charged. Here is where I am right now.
What's my proposal :
A. To go ahead together those really experimented these phenomena. Today I'll put here my results, sinthesysing them.
B. Many years I did these tests and I know what I mean. so that, to those of you trying to replicate: be sure about the charging status of the batteries/ accumulators prior to start.
Some clues / tricks  for experimentators:
1. Never start with a 0% charged battery/ accumulator
2. Use the same object and characterize its charging behaviour prior to start
3. Monitoryze the phenomena in " real time"  , that is realm time recording of the Current/ Voltage across a resistor in the electric circuit.
To those of you who tested this phenomena : please be so kind as post here the experiment details, otherwise a newby can easily fail !
Tigrotto
traderfx05@yahoo.com.au


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2008, 08:20:18 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline spacetrax

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 109
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2008, 04:51:41 PM »
Hi Tigrotto,

you said that you will put here your results about battery charging under pyramids.
Where are your results? Volts...watts...?...Please!

Offline amigo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2008, 02:20:24 AM »
I am in the process of researching pyramids and pyramid power and here are some of my thoughts I'd like to share and hear comments about...

I did read books and watched documentaries about proposed hypotheses of the workings of the Great Pyramid by Chris Dunn and others. Even though these theories all do appear sound, I am somehow not subscribing to them as being facts. This is a principal mistake orthodox science makes (or perhaps people who subscribe to it). Theories are automatically converted to facts if they are not being challenged - as if the silence signals approval of some kind?!

Let's separate fact from fiction. Facts are undeniable truths, fiction is everything else. We simply do not have sufficient empirical evidence to promote any theory into fact at this time, regardless whether it was made by the Egyptologists or alternative researchers such as Chris Dunn.

I would like to now switch from the quantitative aspects to the qualitative ones. Since I have spent past months reading old manuscripts and works of people such as Meser and Reichenbach, among others, I am of a belief that we are missing on a huge part of the phenomena. That being the qualitative aspects, or the so-called subtle energies, which are presently part of the para-science in the West, although they were not such back in the days.

It also appears that geometry is a factor, at least when it comes to pyramids. Many around the world had recreated the pyramid geometries and observed unusual effects produced by them. The sheer amount of people and the geopolitical diversity excludes a possibility of some conspiracy and hoax, especially when some were not even contemporaries.

Now, the issue of proof arises because the orthodox science requires quantitative analysis and with subtle energies there aren't any per-se, it is mostly qualitative, related to life and consciousness.

Sadly, our playing field is divided into two. There is a vast pool of knowledge available in the East: Poland, Czech Republic, Russia (or basically entire Cold War Soviet Union), China, etc. In these countries research was conducted and condoned, even by the official government organizations and institutes, beside having a plethora of individuals who had done amazing feats of discovery.

I say "sadly" because most of that knowledge is locked behind a language barrier, if not other (political) reasons, but I suspect that there are volumes written about subtle energies, pyramid geometries including some real hard-core science behind all that as well, to satisfy the orthodox scientists.

Then there is the West, where we have a handful of people who are mostly marginalized and ridiculed and the field of research is classified among the para-sciences. For example one Westerner did dwell into quantitative aspects and that is Patrick Flanagan. In his book Pyramid Power he outlines a number of experiments and circuits one can perform to detect (some) phenomena regarding the pyramid structures. He did try other geometries but says that only pyramids produced discernible effects.

Whether you believe Flanagan or not, he had approached the issue from what appears to be an engineering point of view, applying his electronics knowledge to quantify something qualitative. If you look his book up you can see that there is at least an effort made to satisfy scientific principle of experimentation.

So where do we go from now?

I personally believe that sticking a real-time probe to a battery under a pyramid will not yield what we are looking for - on the contrary it will skew the outcome. It seems to me that most people here are only concerned with energy, charging batteries and driving cars with HHO. But we are missing out on a whole new world, a much larger one that we can't see (although that statement might not be as accurate) and are robbing ourselves and others from that knowledge (knowledge that was known and accepted mere 100 years ago or more).

We need to marry the quantitative and qualitative aspects and deprogram ourselves from the narrow-minded view of the orthodox science and education of the 20th century. We have to bring the electronics together with radionics, physics with consciousness (not Quantum crap though, we can't be inventing new particles every time it suits us).

I know I have not provided much of direct answers to the subject of this thread, but I am trying to get you all interested into the qualitative parts of our quest because without them the puzzle is incomplete. I'm already trying to do my part but we all have to "pitch in" in order to succeed. So, don't be afraid to look up old books from 1930s, 1920s, 1890s, 1860s, etc. Believe it or not, people back then knew a lot about themselves and their surroundings, perhaps more than people today...

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2008, 02:20:24 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline spacetrax

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 109
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2008, 03:47:26 PM »
Hi, thanks for sharing your view, you really have a point.
But can you tell us something specific that you have read in those books? How does that aply to pyramids?
Thanks and happy holidays!

I am in the process of researching pyramids and pyramid power and here are some of my thoughts I'd like to share and hear comments about...

I did read books and watched documentaries about proposed hypotheses of the workings of the Great Pyramid by Chris Dunn and others. Even though these theories all do appear sound, I am somehow not subscribing to them as being facts. This is a principal mistake orthodox science makes (or perhaps people who subscribe to it). Theories are automatically converted to facts if they are not being challenged - as if the silence signals approval of some kind?!

Let's separate fact from fiction. Facts are undeniable truths, fiction is everything else. We simply do not have sufficient empirical evidence to promote any theory into fact at this time, regardless whether it was made by the Egyptologists or alternative researchers such as Chris Dunn.

I would like to now switch from the quantitative aspects to the qualitative ones. Since I have spent past months reading old manuscripts and works of people such as Meser and Reichenbach, among others, I am of a belief that we are missing on a huge part of the phenomena. That being the qualitative aspects, or the so-called subtle energies, which are presently part of the para-science in the West, although they were not such back in the days.

It also appears that geometry is a factor, at least when it comes to pyramids. Many around the world had recreated the pyramid geometries and observed unusual effects produced by them. The sheer amount of people and the geopolitical diversity excludes a possibility of some conspiracy and hoax, especially when some were not even contemporaries.

Now, the issue of proof arises because the orthodox science requires quantitative analysis and with subtle energies there aren't any per-se, it is mostly qualitative, related to life and consciousness.

Sadly, our playing field is divided into two. There is a vast pool of knowledge available in the East: Poland, Czech Republic, Russia (or basically entire Cold War Soviet Union), China, etc. In these countries research was conducted and condoned, even by the official government organizations and institutes, beside having a plethora of individuals who had done amazing feats of discovery.

I say "sadly" because most of that knowledge is locked behind a language barrier, if not other (political) reasons, but I suspect that there are volumes written about subtle energies, pyramid geometries including some real hard-core science behind all that as well, to satisfy the orthodox scientists.

Then there is the West, where we have a handful of people who are mostly marginalized and ridiculed and the field of research is classified among the para-sciences. For example one Westerner did dwell into quantitative aspects and that is Patrick Flanagan. In his book Pyramid Power he outlines a number of experiments and circuits one can perform to detect (some) phenomena regarding the pyramid structures. He did try other geometries but says that only pyramids produced discernible effects.

Whether you believe Flanagan or not, he had approached the issue from what appears to be an engineering point of view, applying his electronics knowledge to quantify something qualitative. If you look his book up you can see that there is at least an effort made to satisfy scientific principle of experimentation.

So where do we go from now?

I personally believe that sticking a real-time probe to a battery under a pyramid will not yield what we are looking for - on the contrary it will skew the outcome. It seems to me that most people here are only concerned with energy, charging batteries and driving cars with HHO. But we are missing out on a whole new world, a much larger one that we can't see (although that statement might not be as accurate) and are robbing ourselves and others from that knowledge (knowledge that was known and accepted mere 100 years ago or more).

We need to marry the quantitative and qualitative aspects and deprogram ourselves from the narrow-minded view of the orthodox science and education of the 20th century. We have to bring the electronics together with radionics, physics with consciousness (not Quantum crap though, we can't be inventing new particles every time it suits us).

I know I have not provided much of direct answers to the subject of this thread, but I am trying to get you all interested into the qualitative parts of our quest because without them the puzzle is incomplete. I'm already trying to do my part but we all have to "pitch in" in order to succeed. So, don't be afraid to look up old books from 1930s, 1920s, 1890s, 1860s, etc. Believe it or not, people back then knew a lot about themselves and their surroundings, perhaps more than people today...

Offline amigo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2008, 05:33:34 AM »
Ok, it's important to start somewhere... :)

Here's a selection to read. Please note that some of these books do not deal directly with pyramids, but with "qualitative" aspects of the field we are exploring and similar subjects of the so-called para-science, and are relevant to general education:

Patrick Flanagan - Pyramid Power - The Millennium Science - http://www.mediafire.com/?jt0n0z1ddzw

Les Brown - The Pyramid - http://www.mediafire.com/?m0m0znmudnt

Otto Rahn - Invisible Radiations - http://www.mediafire.com/?4qemem5nmzn

Georges Lakhovsky - Waves That Heal - http://www.mediafire.com/?jmzujvhgfgz

The Principles of Light and Color by Edwin D Babbitt (1878) - http://www.mediafire.com/?jdy4jizzynt

Offline spacetrax

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 109
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2008, 12:30:28 PM »
Hi,
thank you very much for the files. But the FIRST file by Patrick Flanagan  is flawed and can not be opened. Can you do something about it?
Thanks!

Ok, it's important to start somewhere... :)

Here's a selection to read. Please note that some of these books do not deal directly with pyramids, but with "qualitative" aspects of the field we are exploring and similar subjects of the so-called para-science, and are relevant to general education:

Patrick Flanagan - Pyramid Power - The Millennium Science - http://www.mediafire.com/?jt0n0z1ddzw

Les Brown - The Pyramid - http://www.mediafire.com/?m0m0znmudnt

Otto Rahn - Invisible Radiations - http://www.mediafire.com/?4qemem5nmzn

Georges Lakhovsky - Waves That Heal - http://www.mediafire.com/?jmzujvhgfgz

The Principles of Light and Color by Edwin D Babbitt (1878) - http://www.mediafire.com/?jdy4jizzynt


Offline amigo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
Re: Batteries charging under pyramid : replications
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2008, 12:56:44 AM »
Hi,
thank you very much for the files. But the FIRST file by Patrick Flanagan  is flawed and can not be opened. Can you do something about it?
Thanks!

Hi,

Not sure what you mean, I just tried downloading and opening the file without a problem. It is a PDF v1.6 and should open in Acrobat 6+ afaik.

Perhaps your download got corrupted, try getting the file again?

 

OneLink