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Author Topic: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids  (Read 30571 times)

Offline bandr60

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Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« on: October 24, 2008, 10:01:06 PM »
I recently started making heavy-duty generator lids for wide mouth mason jars,
These allow me to add more plates to my generators and prevents from any leaking, cracking etc.
Please feel free to visit my Website at www.hydro-extra.webs.com.
I have tried numerous designs, and still feel that the mason jar offers less maintenance, mason jars are transparent so you can see what is going on inside your generator, the glass doesn't break down from thermal expansion from the elevated temperatures and temperature change, they take the heat well and they are easy and inexpensive to replace.
The only problem was trying to find a lid that would be durable enough, well now there’s one available.
My lids have a high temperature gasket that give a 100% seal and withstand the temperatures.
The hose and terminal connections are all drilled and tapped, with a little Teflon tape they seal great.
My generators are capable of producing 1 to 1-1/4 liters per minute of hydrogen.
Definitely worth checking out.
www.hydro-extra-webs.com

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Offline jdcmusicman

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2008, 03:56:03 AM »
looks like little hydrogen grenades if ask me ....Let one of these get a good flashback and you will have sharp glass shards flying everywhere , making hydrogen in glass is dangerous....

Offline kewlhead

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2008, 05:56:54 PM »
looks like little hydrogen grenades if ask me ....Let one of these get a good flashback and you will have sharp glass shards flying everywhere , making hydrogen in glass is dangerous....

I dont think anybody's stupid enuf to try and light a torch with it but ya never know....   you probably shuld " note - not ment for producing flames "  there are some pretty silly ppl out there that never heard "curriosity killed the cat" and might just try to fame the output instead of its intended purpose.

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
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Offline jdcmusicman

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2008, 10:46:22 PM »
I wasn't talking about lighting a flame to it , I was talking bout having a flashback , which you will have those from time to time , thats why I wouldn't use glass ....

Offline bandr60

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2008, 11:37:03 PM »
Wouldn't matter if it was plastic, acrylic, or PVC pipe. If it was to explode, but of all the kits I've used or have seen as long as you use some type of flashback arrester you are pretty safe.
But I agree! you can never be to safety conscious. When using hydrogen safety goggles and long sleeves probably makes most sense.
Also full knowledge and research of operation prior to installing a system.
You definitely wouldn't want to go at this blind.
 


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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
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Offline jdcmusicman

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 02:14:01 AM »
Yeah no one should be going in blind with this hho . Yeah as long people are safe things will be safe , but can have an occasional accident with hho even with being over safe ..And as far as plastic ,pvc, and acrylic ,yeah it can blow into pieces to but I think I would rather have a piece of flying plastic hit me instead a piece of glass....Just trying to help thats all...

Offline jeanna

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 02:38:41 AM »
Just to clarify for all the folks who are afraid the HHO will explode and hurt them...

HHO is unique because it IMPLODES, This means if there is a flash back, it will be sucking air into the mason jar NOT blasting fire out of it.

Now, when the HHO is added to air in your air intake and it goes into your engine, it changes its characteristics to explode. But now it is in your engine where an explosion is designed in.

So in the original mason jar as well as in the bubbler and the tube,,, everything until real O2 gets mixed with it, it is an implosion and so if it breaks the jar it will stay all in one place.

I am interested in using one of these as a welder, and I have been checking this out. You can light the end of the tube that comes from the bubbler, and use this gas for welding.

Only when you want to cut something do you add O2.

Once you do that wow it is really hot.... but as I said, THAT is what is happening inside your ICU.

So, please relax.

Personally I think it looks great.

My question is how many amps does it draw? If it is on the website, I missed. Please describe. Are you using electrolyte when you quote the output? etc?

jeanna

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Offline bandr60

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 02:10:17 AM »
Hi Jeanna,

These do not draw any amps. until you add an electrolite, you can use any type of electrolite whether it be vinegar, baking soda, sodium carbonate, sodium hydroxide etc.
The output readings that I recorded were with baking soda and sodium hydroxide at 22 amps.
The advantage to sodium hydroxide is that the cell runs cleaner, last longer, and only requires 1/16 to 1/8 teaspoon of sodium hydroxide.
These generators tend to run much more efficient when ran in series, they run cooler and use less distilled water.
I am currently running two in series with a PWM and I can control the amps for city and highway driving. It is best not to run more than 10 amps at idle because more than 10 amps at idle is to hard on the alternator.
Once you get on the highway you can adjust your pwm to your desired amperage which tends to differ from ones perspective to another.




Offline jdcmusicman

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2008, 02:53:20 AM »
A hho generator makes hydrogen on the negative side and oxygen on the positive side.
I have been conducting experiments with this stuff for over 5 months and ..HHO is hydrogen+oxygen ,
Light a match to some in a jar , you will find out real quick like that it EXPLODES ...Of course if you do test with this stuff , after the explosion takes place , it then implodes a little..I done it tested it ..this is what it does ....To think that you are in no danger until the gas hit the air , is misinformation...
thats why its called HHO   2 parts hydrogen , 1part oxygen ...Trust me it explodes ....with out having any outside air contact...

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
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Offline topothemtn

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2008, 03:01:19 AM »

  jeanna.   

  Sorry to dispute you,but when you get a flashback into a hydrogen generator you get a very LOUD explosion. No flame to speak of.   I had cells made of 2in. PVC with press on caps ( for safety )  when I was trying to light up a torch without a safety bubbler ( I'll never do that again )  I got a flashback , it took out the flourescent light above and dented the light fixture. I was three feet away and wasn't hurt (except my ears).

 Have you ever had one explode or implode?
 

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2008, 04:18:36 AM »


These do not draw any amps. until you add an electrolite,



Thanks.

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2008, 11:15:01 PM »
Hi Jeanna,

These do not draw any amps. until you add an electrolite, you can use any type of electrolite whether it be vinegar, baking soda, sodium carbonate, sodium hydroxide etc.
The output readings that I recorded were with baking soda and sodium hydroxide at 22 amps.
The advantage to sodium hydroxide is that the cell runs cleaner, last longer, and only requires 1/16 to 1/8 teaspoon of sodium hydroxide.
These generators tend to run much more efficient when ran in series, they run cooler and use less distilled water.
I am currently running two in series with a PWM and I can control the amps for city and highway driving. It is best not to run more than 10 amps at idle because more than 10 amps at idle is to hard on the alternator.
Once you get on the highway you can adjust your pwm to your desired amperage which tends to differ from ones perspective to another.








Bandr,

i like the lids! Do you have those for sale?

 I agree if done safely the mason jars work great.

Nice job!!!

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2008, 11:26:07 PM »

Offline bandr60

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2008, 11:55:28 PM »
HHo King,

I have complete kits at this time and should have more lids ready in a few weeks.
Also will have some polycarbonate jars that will work with these lids soon.
Also these lids seal great.

Thanks

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Re: Hydrogen Generator with heavy duty CPVC Mason Jar lids
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2008, 12:55:27 AM »
HHo King,

I have complete kits at this time and should have more lids ready in a few weeks.
Also will have some polycarbonate jars that will work with these lids soon.
Also these lids seal great.

Thanks

If you don't mind me asking where did you get your hho pwm from?

 

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