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Author Topic: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1  (Read 26877 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« on: October 24, 2008, 02:22:58 AM »
Hi All,
have a look at this motor:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uoC5V53Iols

He is getting overunity with it.

18 Volts x 200 mA input= 3.6 Watts of input power.

110 Ohmx x (0.190 A)^2= 3.971 Watts Output !

That is a overunity COP of 1.1 !

Congratulations !
Many thanks.
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2008, 02:34:01 AM »
With such good measurement techniques and instrumentation, I have no doubt that you are correct. Definitely overunity.
So it would be trivial to hook the output up to the input and watch it run itself, without an external source of power. At last.

I will be looking forward to the awarding of the Overunity Prize to this inventor. When will you be sending him the check, Stefan?

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2008, 02:42:28 AM »
Well, he surely has to measure it with a scope to be sure.

But maybe he will get it to feed back and have a selfrunner ?
Although, at COP= 1.1 this is probably not possible...
He would need at least COP= 2 to 3 to get a stable feedback....

Also then it needs to put out 1 Watts additionally to apply
for the OverUnity Prize.

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2008, 02:42:28 AM »
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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2008, 02:54:02 AM »
Oh, I forgot about the One Watt requirement.
So, assuming it could self-run and produce, say, 100 mW excess, would it be legal to assemble 10 of them together, to get to the One Watt requirement? If not, why not? After all, something like a Johnson Noise Diode Array would also be assembled from many smaller units each only contributing a part of the power.

I don't see why a COP of 1.1 wouldn't allow self-running. By your own figures, the device creates 371 mW excess power. That means it makes the same amount of power that it uses, plus 371 milliWatts more. So, unless your power storage/transfer system is remarkably inefficient, there is plenty of power to run itself. If a battery charger system has too many losses, try capacitors. Capacitative power storage can be very efficient.

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2008, 03:06:41 AM »
Okay, if it is under 25 Kg in weight all in all
and all devices selfrun and put out a total of 1 Watts free energy, why not...

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
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Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 04:04:54 AM »
Way to go Stefan!  Good decision.

Bill

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008, 04:15:42 AM »
I am tired and fried mind.
Ho god, I need to rest.

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2008, 05:33:23 AM »
Hi!

@hartberlin
I dont know but I saw that the motor was using a bigger amount of amperes than what was putting out the whole time.
Forgive my ignorance, but I cant see how you got the numbers for the overunity. If the input is 240ma and the aoutput is 200ma I think that it is loosing 40ma in the process.
I can be wrong though.

Jesus

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 07:30:58 AM »
@nievesoliveras,

Attached is a drawing of Ohm's law. Print the drawing and put in on your wall.

U = Voltage, R = Resistance, I = Current and P = Watt
Use Voltage, Ohm, Ampere and Watt when calculating a value.

The input was 18 Volt and 200 mA = P = U * I = 18V * 0,2A = 3,6 Watt.
The output was 240 mA across a resistance of 110 Ohm, so
P = R * I * I = 110 * 0,19 * 0,19 = 3,971 Watt.

COP = OUTPUT / INPUT = 3,971 / 3,6 = 1,103

Groundloop.


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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 08:17:18 AM »
I have watched the video over and over again.
The text says 18Volts input 210mA        output 200mA.
              and 18Volts input 200mA        output 190mA.
That means the loss of power is 10mA.
Were do you get this over unity COP=1.1
Unless I'm understanding his labeling wrong.
 

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 08:41:08 AM »
@AbbaRue,

The inventor "skycollection" says:

Quote
yes, the output was 190mA, TESTING with 18 volts, (run battery). yes i mean avramenko plugs. the consuption of my motors is 200 mA and produce 190 mA, loading voltage, with 2 resistances in parallel of 220 homs.

He is running the output into a 110 Ohm resistor. He is saying that he run the motor
with 18 Volt input voltage at a current of 200 mA. He is running the output into a resistor
load of 110 Ohm (two 220 ohms resistor in parallel is 110 Ohm) and the current through
the resistors is 190 mA. Now use the Ohm's law and do the math.

Groundloop.

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 10:51:07 AM »
Oh god people on a forum named overunity don't even have an idea of what overunity means...

okay so let's say all the calculations were done correctly (chuckles....) and that it really creates more output than "input".... when the magnets die then it will create less output than input = the term overunity is not properly used.

Magnets have a limited lifetime... see? now make the connection.. no freaking overunity.. imagine magnets as fuel...little spark -> lots of energy due to fuel explosion .. overunity too? NO.. just energy released from the fuel thanks to the little spark... magnets = fuel ... period..

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2008, 11:21:09 AM »
Oh god people on a forum named overunity don't even have an idea of what overunity means...

okay so let's say all the calculations were done correctly (chuckles....) and that it really creates more output than "input".... when the magnets die then it will create less output than input = the term overunity is not properly used.

Magnets have a limited lifetime... see? now make the connection.. no freaking overunity.. imagine magnets as fuel...little spark -> lots of energy due to fuel explosion .. overunity too? NO.. just energy released from the fuel thanks to the little spark... magnets = fuel ... period..

You are real idiot  ;D neo magnet lifetime is over 100 years, you will be very dead at this time

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2008, 11:31:49 AM »
Did I ever say something about the actual length of the lifetime? Nope I sure didn't... limited = no overunity :) .. now if magnets had some kind of a free energy (which means tapping into some kind of a never ending source of energy) source in them now that would be overunity.... btw there are some great papers on the whole confusion of how much energy stored in magnets is and what has to happen for this energy to weaken ;)

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Re: Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2008, 11:39:40 AM »
OU  or not as long as this will have no other fuel source and will power my house/car in the near future
then fine by me..  :D

 

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