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"In physics, the law of 'conservation of energy' states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant and cannot be created, although it may change forms, e.g. friction turns kinetic energy into heat (radiant energy). In thermodynamics, the first law of thermodynamics is a statement of the conservation of energy for thermodynamic systems, and is the more encompassing version of the conservation of energy. In short, the law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another or transferred from one body to another, but the total amount of energy remains constant (the same)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
Energy is only created and or extracted from stored energy. It takes a pulse to create energy and it takes two colliding resistances to create a pulse.
This may be why I find so many to be so far off base. This is being taught to be the way it is but the fact is, it is not the way it is. Energy is life and you must feed energy with a pulse to keep it alive. With out continuously adding a pulse, the energy will fade away. But energy is a resistance and when collided with another resistance, it creates another pulse and you can not create a pulse without creating energy and you can not create energy with out creating a pulse and you can not extract energy with out using a pulse.
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... Energy is only created and or extracted from stored energy. It takes a pulse to create energy and it takes two colliding resistances to create a pulse.
This may be why I find so many to be so far off base. This is being taught to be the way it is but the fact is, it is not the way it is. Energy is life and you must feed energy with a pulse to keep it alive. With out continuously adding a pulse, the energy will fade away. But energy is a resistance and when collided with another resistance, it creates another pulse and you can not create a pulse without creating energy and you can not create energy with out creating a pulse and you can not extract energy with out using a pulse.
And you're going to proove this, yes? ;D
Vibrations, eh?
Jeeez....
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Energy is only created and or extracted from stored energy. It takes a pulse to create energy and it takes two colliding resistances to create a pulse.
how one makes two colliding resistances?
if energy is extracted from stored energy,it means that this extracted one was transformed from the existing one.
if energy is created from stored energy,it is a synomym for transformation of energy.A potential of one form its made out of another type of potential.
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"In physics, the law of 'conservation of energy' states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant and cannot be created, although it may change forms, e.g. friction turns kinetic energy into heat (radiant energy). In thermodynamics, the first law of thermodynamics is a statement of the conservation of energy for thermodynamic systems, and is the more encompassing version of the conservation of energy. In short, the law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another or transferred from one body to another, but the total amount of energy remains constant (the same)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
Energy is only created and or extracted from stored energy. It takes a pulse to create energy and it takes two colliding resistances to create a pulse.
This may be why I find so many to be so far off base. This is being taught to be the way it is but the fact is, it is not the way it is. Energy is life and you must feed energy with a pulse to keep it alive. With out continuously adding a pulse, the energy will fade away. But energy is a resistance and when collided with another resistance, it creates another pulse and you can not create a pulse without creating energy and you can not create energy with out creating a pulse and you can not extract energy with out using a pulse.
It's like a toddler who first holds up a chess piece critiquing one of Garry Kasparov's openings.
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spinner,
And you're going to proove this, yes?
Vibrations, eh?
Jeeez....
Think about it. Everything is based on vibrations and pulses. Vibrations come in many different frequency's. Some are illegal and or lethal and we are unable to research past them.
Creativity, how one makes two colliding resistances?
And you are asking this why?
if energy is extracted from stored energy,it means that this extracted one was transformed from the existing one.
if energy is created from stored energy,it is a synomym for transformation of energy.A potential of one form its made out of another type of potential.
It does not mean any have been transformed nor is it ever transformed.
utilitarian, It's like a toddler who first holds up a chess piece critiquing one of Garry Kasparov's openings.
I was thinking along the same lines but about the comments posted about what I posted. ;)
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Nightlife is on the right tracks here, at least partly.
And no one of us is anything but a toddler what it comes to these questions.
The knowledge is increasing at huge speed all the time. And always when we look back we can see just how stupid people where “back then” or how little they know.
I also like the “everything is vibration” view. At least the vibrations of some kind are almost every day basics for an engineer, whether the vibrations are electrical or mechanical. Even the universe is oscillating, the frequency is just the smallest frequency of all oscillators! :D
Just now, the universe is expanding, so it has not yet reached it’s halve age. When the universe stops expending, it has reached it’s halve age, then it starts to contract again so that everything begins again with a big bang.
And what it comes to big bang, it came from nowhere right?
So if you can’t get anything from nothing, where did the big bang came from?
Before the big bang, there was only a pure energy, that then started to change to matter and form stars and planets. But where did the pure energy come from?
It came from NOWHERE! ;D ;D
So if you really think of it, conservation of energy can not possibly be true. Or then, something else isn't true?
How much was there pure energy in the first place?
How much is that energy in form of liquid hydrogen?
Why is there that exact amount?
Why did the energy started to change into matter?
Colliding resistances, I have no idea what this could be… ???
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yes my second and third sentence had it's flawns :) but the question is still open on how u make those opposed resistances.Seem to be important concept so explain it more(only the resistances,not the rest of the theory).
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Resistances are walls that can be thought of as solids, liquids, pressures, fields, forces, energy's or anything else that is real and not imagined.
A attracting resistance is a wall that draws in other walls. A repelling resistance is a wall that pushes away other walls and a stationary wall is a wall that does neither and it can be attracted or repelled and or have no reaction at all to some and or all other walls.
A colliding resistance would be two walls colliding together.
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sulake,
any dimension is infinately small from higher dimension view.Maybe the same goes for energy that just channeled from higher dimension to this 3D :)
nightlife,
it's surely a hard nut to get this into vidualisation at first :).Can u come up with any example closer to observable fenomena?
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"In physics, the law of 'conservation of energy' states that the total amount of energy in an
isolated system remains constant and cannot be created, although it may change forms....
There is a snag.
To get your equations correct, you must take into account ALL forms of energy, those that
you know about, and those that you do not know about.
This is a snag.
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Creativity,
"it's surely a hard nut to get this into vidualisation at first .Can u come up with any example closer to observable fenomena?"
When you tap your finger on your desk you will feel and hear a vibration and you may even see it if you do so hard enough or set a glass of water on it. Your finger is a resistance as is the desk. Both are stationary resistances and either of the two must have energy used to move. I wont go in to how the energy was used because that may make for another debate which would put us in biology. :(
When iron is placed with in a certain distance of a magnet, the two has a attracting resistance to each other.
When a north seeking energy (polarity) is placed within a certain distance of another north seeking energy (polarity), they both have a repelling resistance to each other and vise versa. When a south seeking energy (polarity) is placed within a certain distance from a north seeking energy (polarity) they have a attracting resistance between them.
Some same magnetic polarity's can become a attraction within a certain distance from each other if the cores have a stronger attracting resistance to both polarity’s of the magnetic field then the same polarity's have to their own repelling resistance. This is one way how two magnets can become one because their magnetic energy's will realign to suit the attraction. The same happens when all opposite polarity's are placed together.
Aren’t those concepts taught in schools?
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Paul-R,
"To get your equations correct, you must take into account ALL forms of energy, those that
you know about, and those that you do not know about."
There is only one form of energy and the only difference between energy's is their vibrancy. Energy's are used to create motions that some consider to be energy like wind and some energy’s are used to create heat which some consider to be energy. Think of all the energy's you can think of and take the time to see what they consist of and or how they are created.
Wind is created by the pressure between two energy's. Heat is created by a repeated collision of two resistances. The action is created by energy’s.
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Everything is based on vibrance.
Sight, sound, taste, touch, colors and magnetic fields are all made possible by vibrations and they are measured by their vibrance. There are so many different vibrances that we have yet to be able to test because we are not able to get past the ones that make up our existence and or the tools needed to create the vibrance. John has touched on some of the vibrances that make up steel and in his experiments he was able to twist, split, lift, explode and tear steel apart.
Energy is just word that can be replaced by the word vibration because all it is, is a vibration.
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Paul-R,
There is only one form of energy and the only difference between energy's is their vibrancy.
there are many forms of energy: sound, electrical, kinetic,
potential and so on.
...and of course, zero-point energy which gets omitted by
those who are not up to speed.
Paul.
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what u say holds together.Just this term resistance is missleading,it actually describes an action on behalf of the vibrancy.To say that there is only one true energy is not a problem in my opinion.Just different types of interaction are called to be originated in different energies(at school).It's like naming of every fragment of EMsectrum with different name and we do it already...radio waves,microwaves and so on.
As far as i can see it,ur theory is not going against physics.Just another view on things.String theory also states vibrating strings manifesting in energy (if i remember it good ;) )
Let say there is only one energy type called vibrancy.Any other established energy is just a name of different frequency of vibrancy and can be used interchangeably.By changing the frequency of vibrancy we transform established energy into another one.Any system is just a collection of different freq of vibrance(differen energy types) ,vibrating at superposed frequency as a whole(total spectrum of the energies).When we put something new into the system the total frequency changes,so we can see it interacts.Vibrancy is a wave so it has resonance and total fade out properties if matched with appriopirate another vibrancy.
we would have to explain what is the resonance and fade out.Also how vibrances superpose together or Doppler effect.
i guess that any difference in vibrating amplitudes would create a field.Vibrance of the harmonic frequencies would be the most suited transfer of energy type(so resonance,resonsnce with 1st harmonic,2nd harmonic and so on).
i think i could explain energy transfers,energy transformations and so on in vibrancy terms.But not tonight :0 now time to sleep zzzzzzz
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Creativity, I see you have figured out what I have been saying and yes I believe the different levels could have and probably should have different names just as long as it is understood that they are all the same.
As for the string theory, you are correct but I can not agree with the string theory because that would link everything together and it is obvious that all things are not linked together, They also say that the vibration is never ending and I can not agree with that either.
I am not good with words or their meanings and I try to use the words I know to explain my thoughts. I find myself using the dictionary quite a bit when reading others comments. LOL
I never really went to school but I think I did learn enough of the basics to get by. My life experiences gave me the education I have. That may be good or bad but it does give me the advantage by coming from outside of the box and not being preprogrammed. I find things wrong that others overlook because of their preprogramming and this thread is one example. I have studied Prof. Walter Lewin's "MIT" video lecture on electricity and magnetism from the spring of 2002 and I found many things wrong with things he is teaching and or has taught. I have tried to contact him but he has yet to return any of my emails.
Of you have time and want to watch them you can download them from the following link. There are 36 different lectures.
http://web.mit.edu/smcs/8.02/
I would like to read about the different vibrancy terms you can explain when ever you feel up to it.
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Paul-R, "there are many forms of energy: sound, electrical, kinetic,
potential and so on.
...and of course, zero-point energy which gets omitted by
those who are not up to speed."
The true energy that creates those you listed is a vibration. They are not energy's, they are some of the things that energy creates.
Keep it simple.
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@nightlife,
Vibrations or not…
Kept simple or not…
…at least keep it decent by adding “IMHO†or “I think†in front of the name of this thread!
Then, you can start talking…
Oh: maybe the whole thread would look much better in “half baked ideasâ€. Sorry, but the way it is now, I can’t grasp the news within.
Cheers,
Tinu
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tinu, I am sorry that you "can't grasp the news within" but facts are facts. It is not in my humble opinion, it is a fact and the thread is named appropriately.
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sulake, "Just now, the universe is expanding, so it has not yet reached it’s halve age. When the universe stops expending, it has reached it’s halve age, then it starts to contract again so that everything begins again with a big bang."
I was thinking about what you said and that may be true and it would also confirm my findings. If our universe expands and contracts, it is doing so like a pulse and or vibration does. That would mean that all create vibrations in our universe are just vibrations within a vibration and that would help explain all the types of vibrations that we have. It may be how get different fragrances, taste, colors, fields and substances. We already know that sound comes from one or the combination of many.
The more and more it is thought about, the more and more convincing it is.
Our universe could just be a atom in another universe. Hmmm, LOL
I have stopped experimenting for a few months now because I felt it was more important to find out what energy really was before I could seek ways to create it. Now that I know what it is, I can see why it is hard to create more then what is used to create it.
For all those who seek to create more then what is used, keep this thread in mind.
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The other law of thermodynamics is more interesting:
can energy flow from 'low' to 'high' without doing work?
What is and where does the energy come from, which prevents the electron from colliding with the nucleus, and is the entropy of its source lower or higher than the energy (which prevents collision)?
Answer to the first q: Maxwell's demon says yes.
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tinu, I am sorry that you "can't grasp the news within" but facts are facts. It is not in my humble opinion, it is a fact and the thread is named appropriately.
I’ve tried to be gentle…
But come on! Cut this crap!
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Damn it Alan, I just spent a lot time thinking and researching the last one to be able to come up with what I did. It would have been nice to have had a break before taking on another theory. LOL
Laws of Thermodynamics
Energy exists in many forms, such as heat, light, chemical energy, and electrical energy. Energy is the ability to bring about change or to do work. Thermodynamics is the study of energy.
First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved, it cannot be created or destroyed. In essence, energy can be converted from one form into another. Click here for another page (developed by Dr. John Pratte, Clayton State Univ., GA) covering thermodynamics.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that "in all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will always be less than that of the initial state." This is also commonly referred to as entropy. A watchspring-driven watch will run until the potential energy in the spring is converted, and not again until energy is reapplied to the spring to rewind it. A car that has run out of gas will not run again until you walk 10 miles to a gas station and refuel the car. Once the potential energy locked in carbohydrates is converted into kinetic energy (energy in use or motion), the organism will get no more until energy is input again. In the process of energy transfer, some energy will dissipate as heat. Entropy is a measure of disorder: cells are NOT disordered and so have low entropy. The flow of energy maintains order and life. Entropy wins when organisms cease to take in energy and die.
http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/BioBookEner1.html
Damn, no wonder so many of you guys have no common sense. LOL There are too many things wrong with this theory to have been taught as a fact and to think that most of you have been instilled with is just to overwhelming. How many of these twisted theory's are there?
I will try to dissect this theory later when I get some more free time. I took on a new business last night that is a mess and it is going to take me some time to get it cleaned up and operating correctly. It is going to consume a lot of my thoughts mainly because it is a high volume gas station and I have never owned or even managed one before. I need to contact jobbers, hire employees, create a accounting system, clean and change the layout. The old owners were very unorganized and didn’t clean very well.
For those who have read my and understood my comments posted here on this thread, please read and research this theory that I have posted and then comment with your conclusion. I will try to get involved but I can not promise anything at this time.
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@nightlife
I admit I didn't read all the messages above :P
Doing that soon.
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tinu,
"I’ve tried to be gentle…
But come on! Cut this crap!"
No one is asking you to agree but I am asking you to think about it with a open mind so that you can see what I am talking about. Use your common sense, not what you have been taught and or led to believe.
I do not have time to debate with you right now but maybe some of the others that understand can.