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nightlife

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2008, 03:33:03 AM »
Creativity, I see you have figured out what I have been saying and yes I believe the different levels could have and probably should have different names just as long as it is understood that they are all the same.

 As for the string theory, you are correct but I can not agree with the string theory because that would link everything together and it is obvious that all things are not linked together, They also say that the vibration is never ending and I can not agree with that either.

 I am not good with words or their meanings and I try to use the words I know to explain my thoughts. I find myself using the dictionary quite a bit when reading others comments. LOL
 
 I never really went to school but I think I did learn enough of the basics to get by. My life experiences gave me the education I have. That may be good or bad but it does give me the advantage by coming from outside of the box and not being preprogrammed. I find things wrong that others overlook because of their preprogramming and this thread is one example. I have studied Prof. Walter Lewin's "MIT" video lecture on electricity and magnetism from the spring of 2002 and I found many things wrong with things he is teaching and or has taught. I have tried to contact him but he has yet to return any of my emails.
 Of you have time and want to watch them you can download them from the following link. There are 36 different lectures.

http://web.mit.edu/smcs/8.02/

 I would like to read about the different vibrancy terms you can explain when ever you feel up to it.

nightlife

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2008, 03:41:34 AM »
Paul-R, "there are many forms of energy: sound, electrical, kinetic,
potential and so on.

...and of course, zero-point energy which gets omitted by
those who are not up to speed."

 The true energy that creates those you listed is a vibration. They are not energy's, they are some of the things that energy creates.

 Keep it simple.
 

tinu

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2008, 12:45:09 PM »
@nightlife,

Vibrations or not…
Kept simple or not…
…at least keep it decent by adding “IMHO” or “I think” in front of the name of this thread!
Then, you can start talking…
Oh: maybe the whole thread would look much better in “half baked ideas”. Sorry, but the way it is now, I can’t grasp the news within.

Cheers,
Tinu

nightlife

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2008, 01:40:24 PM »
tinu, I am sorry that you "can't grasp the news within" but facts are facts. It is not in my humble opinion, it is a fact and the thread is named appropriately.

nightlife

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2008, 02:39:59 PM »
sulake, "Just now, the universe is expanding, so it has not yet reached it’s halve age. When the universe stops expending, it has reached it’s halve age, then it starts to contract again so that everything begins again with a big bang."

 I was thinking about what you said and that may be true and it would also confirm my findings. If our universe expands and contracts, it is doing so like a pulse and or vibration does. That would mean that all create vibrations in our universe are just vibrations within a vibration and that would help explain all the types of vibrations that we have. It may be how get different fragrances, taste, colors, fields and substances. We already know that sound comes from one or the combination of many.
 
The more and more it is thought about, the more and more convincing it is.

Our universe could just be a atom in another universe. Hmmm, LOL

 I have stopped experimenting for a few months now because I felt it was more important to find out what energy really was before I could seek ways to create it. Now that I know what it is, I can see why it is hard to create more then what is used to create it.

For all those who seek to create more then what is used, keep this thread in mind.
 

alan

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2008, 03:05:40 PM »
The other law of thermodynamics is more interesting:
can energy flow from 'low' to 'high' without doing work?
What is and where does the energy come from, which prevents the electron from colliding with the nucleus, and is the entropy of its source lower or higher than the energy (which prevents collision)?


Answer to the first q: Maxwell's demon says yes.

tinu

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2008, 04:09:03 PM »
tinu, I am sorry that you "can't grasp the news within" but facts are facts. It is not in my humble opinion, it is a fact and the thread is named appropriately.

I’ve tried to be gentle…
But come on! Cut this crap!

nightlife

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2008, 04:12:59 PM »
 Damn it Alan, I just spent a lot time thinking and researching the last one to be able to come up with what I did. It would have been nice to have had a break before taking on another theory. LOL

Laws of Thermodynamics

Energy exists in many forms, such as heat, light, chemical energy, and electrical energy. Energy is the ability to bring about change or to do work. Thermodynamics is the study of energy.

First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved, it cannot be created or destroyed. In essence, energy can be converted from one form into another. Click here for another page (developed by Dr. John Pratte, Clayton State Univ., GA) covering thermodynamics.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that "in all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will always be less than that of the initial state." This is also commonly referred to as entropy. A watchspring-driven watch will run until the potential energy in the spring is converted, and not again until energy is reapplied to the spring to rewind it. A car that has run out of gas will not run again until you walk 10 miles to a gas station and refuel the car. Once the potential energy locked in carbohydrates is converted into kinetic energy (energy in use or motion), the organism will get no more until energy is input again. In the process of energy transfer, some energy will dissipate as heat. Entropy is a measure of disorder: cells are NOT disordered and so have low entropy. The flow of energy maintains order and life. Entropy wins when organisms cease to take in energy and die.

http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/BioBookEner1.html

 Damn, no wonder so many of you guys have no common sense. LOL  There are too many things wrong with this theory to have been taught as a fact and to think that most of you have been instilled with is just to overwhelming. How many of these twisted theory's are there?

 I will try to dissect this theory later when I get some more free time. I took on a new business last night that is a mess and it is going to take me some time to get it cleaned up and operating correctly. It is going to consume a lot of my thoughts mainly because it is a high volume gas station and I have never owned or even managed one before. I need to contact jobbers, hire employees, create a accounting system, clean and change the layout.  The old owners were very unorganized and didn’t clean very well.

 For those who have read my and understood my comments posted here on this thread, please read and research this theory that I have posted and then comment with your conclusion. I will try to get involved but I can not promise anything at this time.

alan

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2008, 04:16:40 PM »
@nightlife
I admit I didn't read all the messages above :P
Doing that soon.

nightlife

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Re: The law of conservation of energy is wrong!
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2008, 04:20:21 PM »
tinu,
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"I’ve tried to be gentle…
But come on! Cut this crap!"

 No one is asking you to agree but I am asking you to think about it with a open mind so that you can see what I am talking about. Use your common sense, not what you have been taught and or led to believe.

 I do not have time to debate with you right now but maybe some of the others that understand can.