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Offline Jubjub

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2009, 01:25:11 AM »
I can't wait to see how this turns out!  :)

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #62 on: August 10, 2009, 04:18:03 PM »

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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2009, 03:55:18 PM »
I can't wait to see how this turns out!  :)

The biggest problems I have are so many designs and no time to build. So please forgive me for taking so long.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2009, 06:48:29 PM »
see very interesting idea: http://www.real-free-energy.co.uk/new%20web%20site/new%20web%20site.htm

also discussion here under: The Hydro Kinetic Turbine.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2009, 12:28:38 AM »
see very interesting idea: http://www.real-free-energy.co.uk/new%20web%20site/new%20web%20site.htm

also discussion here under: The Hydro Kinetic Turbine.

LOL I was playing with these device 2 years ago and have built gravity version as well. They don't work the friction to the axle is great and in a buoyancy type it all transfer to the axle and wont spin. It is like have a teardrop float sideways. It will still float sideways. I thought it was a great idea back then as well. We live and learn. It is like this, you have the buoyancy but you have no way to spin the wheel, it will just sit there due to the v of the axle friction.

If you don't believe me, you will see. ;)

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Offline AlanA

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2009, 10:23:56 AM »
Thanks ABHAMMER for your answer.
It is very interesting that you did some researches. So you have broad experience.
There are so many ideas out there. But it is not enought to have an idea.
In my next post I will show you the result of my researches.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2009, 08:52:10 PM »
Please see my idea (attached file).

Constructive comments wellcome.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2009, 03:03:37 AM »
AlanA

 OK lets look at it this way. gravity pull down and buoyancy gos up. A weight sit or is levered to allow the weight to push the wheel. Air has nothing to push against in a void, but the air will try to go to the upper squeezed side but the position of the squeezed keeps the air from going there. Again the air has nothing to push against, so it will still sit there. Another way to look at it is, it will try to lift the mechanism over but the mount won't allow it.

Where are you out of AlanA, you can email me at
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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #70 on: August 15, 2009, 07:35:57 PM »
Care to elaborate?  ;D

Yes if you would like...

I made a very stupid mistake when I replied to the post. so I edited it and due to my embarrassment had nothing more to say..

But I guess I'll post it anyway...

« Last Edit: August 15, 2009, 08:24:26 PM by mindsweeper »

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2009, 03:38:28 PM »
mindsweeper; It looks like some form of surface aerator. But he is going to have to get the bubbles a lot lower.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2009, 10:23:14 PM »
mindsweeper; It looks like some form of surface aerator. But he is going to have to get the bubbles a lot lower.

Hi grayone

I was thinking along the lines of the flow of water round the lower ring, as with the 1st picture in the tank the water would have trouble flowing in one direction when in a large square tank.

  grayone & mindsweeper,
 What is pumping the air into the water ? A turbo charger or blower could not do it. A blower requires a massive amount of energy to rotate. Something like Newtons' v*m = p.
 How much velocity does a blower need before it starts pumping air ? On an engine, it creates drag until sufficient rpm is developed to increase air flow sufficiently to allow the engine to generate enough power to compensate for the 2 heavy weights a blower uses.
 After this, then the efficiency that the gear can convert the lift of air in the water into force comes into question.
 
                                              Jim

Hey Jim..

Yes, using heavy pumps like a turbo or blower would not work in this case, perhaps a small generator for driving a pump would work. None the less I think the overwhelming problem would be water pressure where the pipe enters the bottom ring. TBH I wasn't sure and was only a thought I had and while it was still clear in my head I made the drawing, posted and then realized my mistakes and removed it.. But as someone asked "could I elaborate on my edit:" I posted it again.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #73 on: September 01, 2009, 05:12:24 PM »

That's also how they came about calling oxygen in the blood, the bends. Sorry about the history lesson  :(


by oxygen in blood, you really mean => nitrogen (bubbles) in blood. As air is mostly nitrogen.

high pressure oxygen => hyperbaric oxygen, is somewhat good for humans, if you don't overdo it.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2009, 05:29:22 PM »

But then, considering quick depressurization allows oxygen levels to return to normal, why doesn't nitrogen do the same ? Is it stored in tissue ?


Nitrogen is distributively forced into the blood and "disappears", but as the
external high pressure on the organism is reduced it comes out in the form
of bubbles that are not going anywhere. This is alternately known as
"Nitrogen Narcosis". Oxygen is chemically captured by iron in the red blood
cells and works differently. Nitrogen is not a chemically reactive gas at normal
temperatures, so deep divers substitute in Helium, a noble gas for it, which
does what you want.

Sorry for the off topic post.

:S:MarkSCoffman


 

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