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Author Topic: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles  (Read 33263 times)

Offline grayone

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2008, 03:45:42 AM »
AB Hammer
I am looking forward how you solve the bubble making that is needed.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2008, 11:22:22 AM »
At first glance my thought is:

The "float" is hollow and isn't really very "floaty" but closer to neutral. 
The bubbles go into the hollow of the float to give additional lift.
Once the float enters the water again - it is filled with water - making it heavy and sinks.

So lift by air bubbles filling hollow float.
Drop by hollow float filling with water.

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P.S. The thought of using heat that others recommended might be even better.  A small heater at the bottom with a small nozzel sprays the heated water into the float cavity causing lift.....(because hot water rises)
At least this would overcome the water-pressure problem of getting bubbles to the bottom.

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2008, 02:47:47 PM »
capthook

 The floats are not hollow. The bubbles reduce the density of the water and enough bubbles will sink any buoyancy float allowing the buoyant side to lift the floats not in the bubble tube. The trick is to get enough bubbles to do the job from the lift from the buoyant side.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2008, 02:47:47 PM »
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Offline capthook

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2008, 11:14:57 PM »
Yes - I realize they are not hollow.  I was just giving my take on how you might change/improve the design.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2008, 02:15:02 AM »
Yes - I realize they are not hollow.  I was just giving my take on how you might change/improve the design.

 capthook

Thanks for the suggestions, for in this game you have to consider each and any possibility as well as the negatives with some ideas. For instance the heat is not practicable for this project for it has to produce on its own. The heat will need another source for energy to run it, which would defeat the purpose. Here is what has to happen. The bubbles needs to take up 40+percent of the water in the tube. This will allow the weighted floats to go downward into the water with very little buoyancy when the non bubbled side has full buoyancy which should give the force needed to perpetuate. At least that is the plan for the first build. Any additions and changes will be taken after that.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2008, 04:10:39 PM »
Hay Jim

 It would be hard to describe exactly how to make the blower for this project and due to timing  it is a wait and see game. I have worked with vacuum cleaners, forge blowers and compressors and have even been able to increase the power of an old 1950s-60sD2 Rainbow to out perform the D4 from 1990. I use it for my shop vac while I was service manager From 1987 to 1991 for the main sore in Arkansas and taught most the people in the state how to work on them. Water test where common in the vacuum cleaner business for lift pressure as well as blowing out water in pipes.

The story is and always will be. Time will tell.   

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2008, 11:13:15 PM »
Hi everybody,

in the past I thought about buoyancy of air in water (like many others)
I think the key is to get a bucket of air from outside at the bottom of a tank full of water in this tank.
Does anybode out there knows a solution. It would help really.

 

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2008, 11:40:18 PM »
Hi everybody,

in the past I thought about buoyancy of air in water (like many others)
I think the key is to get a bucket of air from outside at the bottom of a tank full of water in this tank.
Does anybode out there knows a solution. It would help really.

 

OUCH!!!

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2008, 02:31:45 PM »
@ ABHammer

ouch???
This kind of reaction is a little bit to short for me.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2008, 03:00:27 PM »
AlanA

Sorry, but it is how you wrote (get a bucket of air ). This gives so many odd visions that "ouch" was all I could respond.

Pleas rephrase the wording of the idea. For the way you wrote it before, gives the idea as bad as someone running outside with a pan to collect light for the inside of a dark room effect. Thus a mental OUCH!



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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2008, 09:46:07 PM »
Good day,

Nice ide just please visit that link and see the buplishing date. Thanks

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2008, 09:53:21 PM »
Good day,

Nice idea just please visit that link and read the buplishing date in it http://www.business-idea.com/ShowPosting.asp?ID=2290

Thanks

Farid

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2008, 11:30:45 PM »
Good day,

Nice idea just please visit that link and read the buplishing date in it http://www.business-idea.com/ShowPosting.asp?ID=2290

Thanks

Farid

Greetings Farid

 I take it that the link is of your drawing? Nice drawing,  that type I would call a bubble catcher. It is a bit different from mine for mine don't catch bubbles at all. Their are allot of buoyancy devices with similar looks that go back hundreds of years. Mine is the first to use the anti buoyancy approach with bubbles. The none bubble side has full buoyancy for the lift.

 Have you built yours to give it a try? I build all mine that have a real possibility. So until I build it, I will not know if I can overcome what is needed to work. Just like with your drawing, you will not know until it is built weather it works or not.

By the way welcome to the forum, I enjoy talking to inventive minds. It brings life to the forum.

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2008, 11:55:48 PM »
Dear AB Hammer

Thanks for share the talk about the idea. i have look at the first picture in your strig and finnaly i figer it out . your tanks are closed and full of air so its defrent from the idea that i posted here or in my other link Business-idea . i hope that we can work togather in makeing our hunger for reality become a fact . to know if we realy can make it or not

I thank you again and i apologize for any inconvenient i coused

Best wishes
Farid

(I also posted this on my string)

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Re: Buoyancy device and wheel and bubbles
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2008, 12:06:59 AM »
Thanks Farid

Here is a link for some youtube videos of some of my past projects. Not all of them for I have built around 30 and have designed around 400.

http://uk.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer

Talk to you later

 

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