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Author Topic: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)  (Read 290757 times)

Online ramset

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #435 on: February 26, 2010, 01:17:12 AM »
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Tito  You have also gave a youtube video.
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Teets is a movie star-> 8)?

I missed his "flick" can you post a link?[please]

Thanks
Chet

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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #436 on: February 26, 2010, 03:09:43 AM »
Quote from: baroutologos on February 25, 2010, 11:19:11 PM
I have been given much thought to the biffilar coil. I made one from a pvc former, placed upon a shelf and i keep looking it from times to time...

What a biffilar can do?
Tito, you have been advocated a lot about biffilars. You have also gave a . Can you propose a simple experiment with biffilars to get an understanding of it?

try to watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvb39SwTXBE
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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #437 on: February 26, 2010, 05:13:43 AM »
Tito
Our buddy TK,
and I see the head Metrologist, the real brains of the operation Alshetelokin looking on with that discerning Beak in the back ground.

Thanks
Chet
« Last Edit: February 26, 2010, 08:03:20 AM by ramset »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #438 on: February 26, 2010, 07:19:52 AM »
That TK vid I believe was by request from OC(whipmag idea that TK(Al) made). But I dont think the test in the vids on this, there are a couple from TK, are really what OC was looking for as in how and why. Tk knows how to apply them, and this is not how. As you can see by the results of the test, there really isnt any good application for his config as shown other than to mislead.

Maybe Tito knows what they are good for. ;]

I made a vid comparing back emf output and magnetic output running a rotor, of a series bifi and a regular coil, both of the same no. of turns and there was no difference. The vid is on my Magluvin channel at YT.

mags

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Offline baroutologos

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #439 on: February 26, 2010, 07:46:13 AM »
Hey tits,

I have seen that video long ago. it's illustrating the properties of the biffilar beautiffully.
 I think it is evident that the biffilar as a receiver, or as a spark-producing resonator is quite lousy, since it has large self-capacitance and all current will flow inside it, hence no sparking across it or little. 

(Tesla regarded the distributed capacitance of the secondary of his coils as an evil that needed overcome)

On the contrary, as it seems that coil as a... coil, or magnetic field producer (hence inductor) is supperior (?) because its self inductunce is nulled (above a certain voltage threshold) by its capacitance, so more current is flowing to it from the discharging cap.

In other words, as i see it, the discharging cap meets no inductunce and discharging speed is greater??

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #440 on: February 26, 2010, 07:52:37 AM »
Quote from: baroutologos on February 26, 2010, 07:46:13 AM
Hey tits,

I have seen that video long ago. it's illustrating the properties of the biffilar beautiffully.
 I think it is evident that the biffilar as a receiver, or as a spark-producing resonator is quite lousy, since it has large self-capacitance and all current will flow inside it, hence no sparking across it or little. 

(Tesla regarded the distributed capacitance of the secondary of his coils as an  that needed overcome)

On the contrary, as it seems that coil as a... coil, or magnetic field producer (hence inductor) is supperior (?) because its self inductunce is nulled (above a certain voltage threshold) by its capacitance, so more current is flowing to it from the discharging cap.

In other words, as i see it, the discharging cap meets no inductunce and discharging speed is greater??

i think mags can help you much better than me  ;D

out for vacation bye.
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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #441 on: February 26, 2010, 07:56:53 AM »
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No No No its "TeeTs"!

Chet
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #442 on: February 26, 2010, 08:01:28 AM »
Ramset

lololol   i had thought at one point that this connection might be made, but it was not my intention.

I will refer to Tito as Tito from now on  =] 

mags
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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #443 on: February 26, 2010, 08:05:26 AM »
Me too,
Tito have a good vacation!

Chet
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Offline baroutologos

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #444 on: February 26, 2010, 08:08:12 AM »
Oh,,, LOL i see. hahaa

Anyway, it is not his real name so he cant be offended! He is such a humorous person.

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Mag, what's your view concerning the biffilar coil? You speculate any actual use?
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #445 on: February 26, 2010, 09:36:37 AM »
I have looked for much info in the last year and tries some things. Here is a vid i did a while back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIreSheNujQ

As for the flat coils, maybe that is what you have on the shelf, from Teslas pat at the beginning of this thread, I see the coil surrounding the outer edge. its possible that the flat coils field is concentrated at the outer edge of the coil. But it just may be a transformer. I will see what I can do to see what is going on there.


I have not tried much in this yet. I made tiny flat coil in the vid above to test for Lenz effect for a friend, but not much going on there.
Tks vid though, i dont think you will ever see a configuration like what he shows. That is why I dont think he intentionally meant to show the goods on this stuff.

If you have seen a bedini bifi, 1 coil is just for pickup signal and doesnt have anything to do with the other coil directly other than providing timing signal to the circuit. So no bifi glory there.

Mags
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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #446 on: February 26, 2010, 01:03:40 PM »
Hi everyone,
I noticed that you are not talking about Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, but you got something else to talk about :D
Anybody reading Tesla patents?
OK , here are some qustions for you :
1. Why is ignition coil build on that way it is today in our cars , but not like Tesla said it should be? (pat. 609250)
2. Why is lightning protector still build like rod but not like Tesla said (pat. 1266175)
3. Why one-phase motor (pat.464666) like Tesla designed is no where to  buy or find?
These are just some patents that are dealing with "secret" Tesla technology and you are asking yourselves where is Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter secret? Well try reading Colorado Spring Notes, than you may find out :D
Best regards ;)
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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #447 on: February 26, 2010, 01:14:24 PM »
@Mag,

I am familiar with Bedini's use of biffilar. This is not in the spirit of Tesla's patent in any way. As you correctly said, it just for signalling.

Anyone who has some knowledge in the electrotechnics, and have read the patent "coil for electromagnets" two things could think about the biffilar coil.

1)st It's a coil, specially suited for electromagnets, having superior performance in same way than ordinary ones, and likes especially to work under great voltage. (the greater the more striking the biffilar effect

2)nd It's a coil, specially made for resonance setups (in electromagnets) without having to deal with capacitors.

Is there any thing from the above, that makes the Biffilar coil, suited for "energy receiver" as tito says?

Tinsel Koala's video shows clearly that this coil sux for receiver or at least as resonator. by the way, Tinsel Koala did not showed if the biffilar is better as electromagnet (under same setups) than the normal coil.

I guess we have to find out
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Offline Alexol

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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #448 on: February 27, 2010, 09:56:46 PM »
Look here  http://www.tesla-coil.com/magnifier.htm
A very interesting resource (website)
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Re: Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter (amplify electricity)
« Reply #449 on: February 27, 2010, 11:17:12 PM »
Lets suppose we place the biffilar as a receiver as tito suggests.
What would be the topology between receiver and a load?

Tito have mentioned that  biffilar coil developes a strong magnetic field. At least stronger than a similar normal coil's does. Magnetic field is energy, So biffilar is energy creator? nah...

We know that magnetic's field strength depends on the square of the current that flow in it. So, i speculate with a specific amount of charge (say a Coulomb) and given EMF, the biffilar design excells at magnetic field creation, because it shows inductunce (canceled actually) and makes larger current movement in it?????

Cannot be such simple that a biffilar is a magnetic amplifier...

In any way, how we connect the load? We have to have another "pickup" coil next to the biffilar i guess. Tito said he used a trifilar. So a biffilar + normal one coupled closely together perhaps? (hence triffilar?)
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