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Author Topic: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2  (Read 54872 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #225 on: December 21, 2008, 05:14:12 PM »
Brian, have you tried to get your mechanical arrangement to run in a simulator of some kind? I suggest you download and play with the Phun simulator for a while. It's easy to use and models gravity. And it's phun!

Since it is possible to get a Bessler-type gravity wheel to run in Phun, you might be able to get your system or a subset of it to work as well--if the mechanism is even possible, which I and others doubt strongly.

So, the point of the Phun exercise, for you, would be to see if your basic mechanical layout will even turn, start, stop, expand, accelerate, etc. like you think, regardless of whether it will extract free momentum from somewhere. You can power it with a Phun motor, for example, to test the mechanisms.

http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Home
and here is a file that is a working Bessler-style gravity wheel, thanks to our invisible rabbit friend Harvey.
http://www.mediafire.com/?kdnyloqmjhx

Have Phun!



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Offline mondrasek

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #226 on: December 21, 2008, 05:33:25 PM »
TK,

Check out the Hinge at the center of that Bessler demo.  It's a motor set at 15 RPM.  Turn that off and the Bessler demo will not self run.

M.

Offline brian334

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #227 on: December 21, 2008, 08:09:43 PM »
Koala,
Thanks for the info, its looks like Phun could be great fun.
It will take me some time to learn how to use it.

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #227 on: December 21, 2008, 08:09:43 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #228 on: December 23, 2008, 08:59:10 PM »
TK,

Check out the Hinge at the center of that Bessler demo.  It's a motor set at 15 RPM.  Turn that off and the Bessler demo will not self run.

M.

Darn that silly rabbit, anyway! I looked thru that file and didn't find the motor. Harvey is playing tricks again...
Oh, well, back to the drawing board...
Still, it should help Brian try out his mechanism.

EDIT
I just checked--that hinge motor is turned off, even though its speed is 15 rpm. You can set the speed to zero and the simulation still turns.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2008, 09:14:17 PM by TinselKoala »

Offline brian334

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #229 on: December 31, 2008, 10:00:49 PM »
Koala.
When I looked at Phun I looked for a tool that would help with my invention. Phun did not help.
I am not saying its not a nice toy, but it is not any help to me.

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #229 on: December 31, 2008, 10:00:49 PM »
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Offline utilitarian

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #230 on: January 01, 2009, 01:58:33 AM »
Koala.
When I looked at Phun I looked for a tool that would help with my invention. Phun did not help.
I am not saying its not a nice toy, but it is not any help to me.

Is that because it confirmed you are wrong?

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #231 on: January 01, 2009, 07:11:14 PM »
U
If you or anyone else can prove my invention will or will not work using Phun go do it.
Put-up or shut-up.
Than post the file name. I would be more than happy to look at it.

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #231 on: January 01, 2009, 07:11:14 PM »
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Offline utilitarian

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #232 on: January 01, 2009, 07:24:10 PM »
U
If you or anyone else can prove my invention will or will not work using Phun go do it.
Put-up or shut-up.
Than post the file name. I would be more than happy to look at it.


I don't care enough about your device to go through that effort, and I doubt anyone else does either.

Offline brian334

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #233 on: January 01, 2009, 07:55:20 PM »
U
You appear to care about it enough to criticize it.
Like I said, put-up or shut-up.

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #233 on: January 01, 2009, 07:55:20 PM »
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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #234 on: January 02, 2009, 01:32:01 AM »
DOG GONE brian334

 When are you going to build your device? I am almost finished with one of mine and If I can figure out a slight timing problem it will accelerate. Using my finger to add a little pressure for timing I had it running at approximately 200 rpm. Building is the only way. ;)

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #235 on: June 14, 2010, 11:13:42 PM »
OBTUSE= Lacking acuity of sensibility or perception, having neither delicate feeling nor alert awareness: DENSE I cant believe this topic went on for 16 pages!!!!! ???

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #235 on: June 14, 2010, 11:13:42 PM »
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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #236 on: June 14, 2010, 11:37:54 PM »
OBTUSE= Lacking acuity of sensibility or perception, having neither delicate feeling nor alert awareness: DENSE I cant believe this topic went on for 16 pages!!!!! ???

Well Dr

 We use to talk and discuss things. Not keep claiming that someone else is wanting what or is jellous of (IMO nothing) they have, no matter how many times it is said they don't want anything but the claimer keeps making stories and lies and never lets it alone. Now not allot of people here now. It is sad :'(

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #237 on: June 15, 2010, 02:08:03 AM »
Alan: Yes the gravity wheel section has taken a serious black eye, I have a really cool Idea I wanted to  discuss, but these forums seem to all be the same lots of personal attacks for no GOOD reason. Well I am still searching back threads to make sure my Idea has not been presented already. Nothing worse than plowing the seeds back up. :)

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Re: A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2
« Reply #238 on: June 30, 2010, 01:00:57 AM »
dr
Why did you waste your time reading 16 pages of gibberish?

 

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