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Author Topic: Gravity Mill - any comments to this idea?  (Read 100905 times)

arbus

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Re: Gravity Mill - any comments to this idea?
« Reply #390 on: March 02, 2007, 12:22:11 AM »
@free energy
Regarding the ocean glider.
You are right about the energy it takes to compress and decompress the air.  and of course the deeper you go the more pressure you have, the more energy needed. Maybe using a gas that liquifies close to ocean temperatures or an already partially compressed gas would work better.  i.e. small compression turns if from gas to solid(liquid). Decompression would require only opening a valve(if the pressure inside is greter then outside). 

One other thought. is looking at whales.  They use Wax in their head to alter their bouyancy.  They solidify the wax to sink and heat it up to make it liquid to float. This is not going to make you sink and float very fast  but works for whales :P

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william66tell

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Re: Gravity Mill - any comments to this idea?
« Reply #391 on: March 10, 2007, 11:03:05 PM »
The enclosed schematic is showing only the functional design.  It has not addressed the float latching or the re-engaging of the clutch.

Once the compression of the float is achieved, the details of the design to latch the float and engage the clutch become minor.

The diameter of the output pipe and the weight of the float is very important as to how high the water will be lifted.  One pound of force will lift one square inch of water 27 inches.

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markh

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Re: Gravity Mill - any comments to this idea?
« Reply #392 on: December 30, 2007, 08:14:44 AM »
Here is a thought.  If you could bypass the issue of compressing the piston, it would be a lot simpler. I have attached a diagram of my basic idea.   It would loop.  If you notice the right side has hole to allow water to enter and leave the tube.

The one thing that would make this work, and I'm not sure if it would be available, is a water wheel at the bottom, that is air tight,   As the water enters the bottom of the tube, the boyancy of the float pushes the wheel up  thus staging the next float, entering the water stream and up the column.  At the top of the colum, the float is pushed around the  bend  (probably by the two or three floats that follow.  The float then falls down the tube to the bottom, ready to be re-entered into the water filled tube.  This bypasses the issue of air compression all together.

I have no idea if there is any efficient water tight water type wheel that would keep the left tube dry, but I thought it was a relatively novel approach that would warrent posting.




truth

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Re: Gravity Mill - any comments to this idea?
« Reply #393 on: December 25, 2008, 12:22:27 AM »
Here is a little something to help understand the situation. It is a way to raise water, but not over-unity.

Would working for several HUNDRED years be perpetual motion?  NO, but it is amazing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_Ram

TinselKoala

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