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Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« on: September 28, 2008, 04:30:15 PM »

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2008, 08:13:52 PM »
3000 Vdc Capacitor Bank?
2 BALL Valves?
An SCR Handling 3000Vdc High current (maybe?)
Exploding Water within the injector?
Which ball valve would fail first?
Nice dream! Sorry I don't buy that.
You are better off introducing Steam generated by the Exhaust Manifold and Exploding it within the Cylinder using the enhanced HV System or CD ignition and appropriate spark plug.
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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2008, 09:37:29 PM »

Tommy Wrote:
I have put up a video on water splitter in action on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlWJfRFtTjI

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2008, 09:37:29 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2008, 11:23:18 PM »
Try the same in rapid succession at 2000RPM Plus.The cost and size of your Capacitors and High Voltage power supply that must rapidly replenish the spent energy is just not practical.I watched your Video.
I saw the same being done in a Lab for Military purposes it lifted several hundred pounds it was impressive and cumbersome therefore not practical for use in a Combustion Engine.I appreciate what you did and I am therefore not trying to discredit you in any form or shape  but I do not agree that this is Meyers Secret revealed. Just look at his Drawings For Instance You use no inductors, he does.Maybe you should call it "another approach to Meyers Injectors"
professor

Tommy Wrote:
I have put up a video on water splitter in action on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlWJfRFtTjI

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2008, 11:30:55 PM »
Professor:

  Meyers also added Lazer energy.  Would
this satisfy the operation and economics"?

Meyers exact words (Switzerland Video):   
This all happened by "Presidential executive action!"

SM

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2008, 11:30:55 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2008, 12:56:44 AM »
This was posted on energeticforum

Water Atomization by High Magnitude Electrical Impulses: A study.
http://www.powerlabs.org/waterarc.htm

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2008, 03:00:13 AM »
Hi sirmikey1   
I hate to say this again,but after looking and reading your link Material at www.powerlabs.org/waterarc.htm, I find that this article only confirms my previous statements. And for clearer understanding I shall quote
Statement:     An SCR Handling 3000Vdc High current (maybe?)
Answer from Quote:
The discharges were switched by a homebuilt pneumatically actuated switch, consisting of two 10cm diameter spherical electrodes, one stationary and the other propelled by a 450Newtons piston. Switch closing time is
calculated to be 80uS at 7.5kV).
Statement: Try the same in rapid succession at 2000RPM Plus.
Answer:  10 discharges were run in 20 seconds 
Statement: The cost and size of your Capacitors and High Voltage power supply that must rapidly replenish the spent energy is just not practical
 Answer: 562500Watts 36uF MAXWELL capacitor charged to 7500V
Though the capacitor is rated for a peak amperage of 60Kiloamperes, during the 3rd discharge it suffered internal damage, evidenced by excessive bulging to the case. A careful autopsy of the dielectric revealed no punch throughs: It appears as though the discharge exceeded the maximum amperage of the capacitor by so much
Practical Useage?
After several discharges the pressure inside the box remained at 1ATM. If the water was being vaporized by the discharge a phase change expansion would be expected and hence some pressure increase should be observed. Similarly, if the water was being split up into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis, an even higher pressure increase should be observed. More importantly, there was no "fogging" inside the box, further refuting any steam condensation claims, and the temperature change was consistent with my theory that the water is not being vaporized. If only a small amount of Hydrogen and Oxygen was being produced,
Quote from Article:
The zero pressure increase tells us that this change is non permanent and very quick. We can therefore rule out vaporization, and electrolysis, as both would result in a permanent pressure change.

Meyers contemplated using additional Laser Energy He was not using it on his Dune Buggy Injectors should I be wrong then please show me where it says that he did.
Again for certain Lasers as they are pulsed you require a precision high Voltage
Power supply and the cost vs. Gain is questionable.
I don't think you can achieve any kind of reaction by using 5to20 mw Laser diodes
Beyond that you are looking at thousands of dollars even for a CO2 Laser,
which is bulky anyway. You will never fit any of that kind of laser into your water spark plug.
Anyway ,Good luck , I like to see you succeeding and to prove me being wrong.
professor


Professor:

  Meyers also added Lazer energy.  Would
this satisfy the operation and economics"?

Meyers exact words (Switzerland Video):   
This all happened by "Presidential executive action!"

SM

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2008, 03:00:13 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2008, 03:33:55 AM »

Professor,

  From what I understand, the Lazer is applied to the charged water first,
so that very little electricity is required to cause the explosion/split.
I just had an engineer who has read the patents confirm this. I also
just asked Tom to put something together for us on youtube, to get
rid of the capacitor bank.   Tom has a complete workshop.  He built
the rotary engine himself. 

SM

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2008, 04:31:53 AM »
That's interesting ! always eager to learn something new.
Don't read me wrong I am a believer in this and other technology but I also know of its shortcomings or law of improbability when it comes to Electronics.
Do you have a copy or the Link to Meyers Patent paper regarding the Laser?
I know that you can split water using a specific wavelength in the UV region just how effective it is ,remains to be seen .It should be fairly simple to do a test setup and I am wondering why no one has tried it yet.(Maybe due to its cost)?
Getting rid of the capacitor Bank and still have lots of amps on demand at short intervals with high voltage ought to be quite a challenge.Keep me informed when you have  figured it out. I myself would not know how else this can be done. Radar, lasers, even high power Audio Equipment all  rely on  exotic Capacitors for high demand.   
professor



Professor,

  From what I understand, the Lazer is applied to the charged water first,
so that very little electricity is required to cause the explosion/split.
I just had an engineer who has read the patents confirm this. I also
just asked Tom to put something together for us on youtube, to get
rid of the capacitor bank.   Tom has a complete workshop.  He built
the rotary engine himself. 

SM


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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2008, 04:31:53 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2008, 07:24:02 AM »
Professor,

 Around 40 patents, and I don't exactly know which one,
but I did contact Matt to see if he recalls.

  The torrent here also has the xogen documents, which took
over after he supposedly died. His European patents are also here,
and others. 135mb (Opera Browser Downloads Torrents)
http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=free+energy+meyer

SM
 

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2008, 08:28:49 AM »
sirmekey1
With so many patents he just confused everyone.
So how do you know which is of essence.
I dont think there is a single sole that knows for sure,myself included.
I have       downloaded  torrents as well all I could find on Meyers .If I was to explore all of his patents I  could spent a lifetime and sums of money that I dont  have and still not get anywhere.
It could be resonance or a combination thereof ?
Even if you pretreat the H2O with your Laser you still need the other Compomnent to make it work.
Anyhow with thousands of pages  I had hoped that you had the document available, it would save me an awful lot of trouble sifting through megabytes of Stuff.
But not to worry, it is the least of my concern about his Secrets.
professor

Professor,

 Around 40 patents, and I don't exactly know which one,
but I did contact Matt to see if he recalls.

  The torrent here also has the xogen documents, which took
over after he supposedly died. His European patents are also here,
and others. 135mb (Opera Browser Downloads Torrents)
http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=free+energy+meyer

SM
 


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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2008, 08:28:49 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 05:54:39 AM »
Professor,

   The patent does show a ball check valve in the water input.
Found the patent info on the laser, releases extra hydrogen and
changes charge of electrodes.  Download this document below
and search it for the word "laser".
http://www.google.com/search?q=Meyer_WFC_Technical_Brief

  Herman Anderson's injector and spark plug may interest you:   
http://waterpoweredcar.com/herman.html

SM

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2008, 07:42:20 AM »
Sorry I came up empty handed  searching for Laser and Meyers it just led me to other forums.
Do you remember what kind of laser meyers was using Wavelength and power?
Sorry that not much was ever heard from Herman Anderson before.
Professor

Professor,

   The patent does show a ball check valve in the water input.
Found the patent info on the laser, releases extra hydrogen and
changes charge of electrodes.  Download this document below
and search it for the word "laser".
http://www.google.com/search?q=Meyer_WFC_Technical_Brief

  Herman Anderson's injector and spark plug may interest you:   
http://waterpoweredcar.com/herman.html

SM

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 02:55:06 PM »
Professor,

  It's a 3.8mb pdf file with patent and technical briefing.
You can also grab the file here, Right click to save: 
http://sirmikey.com/temp/
   Search the pdf for the word "laser". Brings you straight
to page marked 1-8 and 1-10.   

   Herman Anderson, looks like his spark plug was able to
crack steam or something along those lines. Not much of
a website, but interesting introduction: http://waterfuelmuseum.com/

SM
 

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Re: Stanley Meyers Injector Revealed
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 07:06:34 AM »
Hi sirmikey1
Thank you for the Link I downloaded it just have to find time to read it.
Really appreciate your effort.
professor




Professor,

  It's a 3.8mb pdf file with patent and technical briefing.
You can also grab the file here, Right click to save: 
http://sirmikey.com/temp/
   Search the pdf for the word "laser". Brings you straight


to page marked 1-8 and 1-10.   

   Herman Anderson, looks like his spark plug was able to
crack steam or something along those lines. Not much of
a website, but interesting introduction: http://waterfuelmuseum.com/

SM
 

 

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