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X00013

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2008, 01:02:50 AM »
@ all,, FYI,   everyday i check youtube for new vids tagged "magnet", ( it's like my morning newspaper), this vid showed up on youtube about 2 weeks ago for the first time, I found it interesting, then everyday after that it showed up in another users name in Spanish and English. So , because of that and the gloves ( Michael Jackson?) ,it just wierded me out., So Broli....be vary weary if you are trying to get info on it from anyone. It's been ripped like 20 times, hence the bad quality vid link  Clanzer posted ( no bad on you Clanzer, I think this guy ripped it).   To see how many times its been ripped and reposted in various names here is a link                    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=magnetic+mill&search_type=&aq=f

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2008, 01:06:59 AM »
I believe this was the first post about 2 weeks ago    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQrOQwo-IbI

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2008, 01:10:57 AM »
I checked all the tube profiles, they all have a different age , sketchy sketchy, gnite.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2008, 02:16:38 AM »
The biggest thing that bothers me is the fact that he has to hold the ring for it to spin. Even if it does work exactly like he is showing, he would need to do a stationary test without his hands near it for me to be convinced.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2008, 05:29:22 AM »
Indeed the part where he holds the ring is the most questionable part. But I was thinking, maybe the rotor was not exaclty in the center of the ring which somehow causes the rotation, and concerning that his hand could possible be reacting to the field...what if the ring was not fixed but somehow attached to springs on its side to allow to move slightly (this is only useful if his hand movement does indeed contribute to the rotation).

Concerning all those videos. It's indeed a weird thing to have so many clones.

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2008, 06:28:29 AM »
Is he wearing gloves because it is cold maybe dipped in liquid nitrogen previously to shooting to provide super conduction effects? Possible?
While they are material gloves there could be other gloves underneath it...

Sure he could be hiding something or maybe it is a coverup of his simplistic design to keep it from being stolen...

How can one know without fulling seeing the before and after of everything...

We can not we can only ask and assume we hear the truth.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2008, 07:25:04 AM »
What are those two dark horizontal lines going across the plate just under the ring? Looks like wires ???

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2008, 10:47:11 AM »
Well, I finally contacted him and we chated over messenger.

It was not easy to talk with him. The man seems to be in a pemanent state of enthusiasm about the fact that, as he claims, the design works.

I asked him since when he has got this working, and said 1990! He says has a running unit 24/7 that he uses to charge truck batteries with an electric fan motor used as dynamo.

He also says that he has much more better designs.

He provided me some clues, as that the magnets he uses are Fe B Nd alloy (that is supposed to be the best magnetic alloy for this motor) and that they are round and from old radios. I asked if they were toroidal field magnets, but he might have not understood, as he insisted the magnets must be round.

He also says the magnets must be overlapped half their distance, he says the magnets don't touch each other even as overlapped, he apparently engraves the supporting ring to allow the overlap without touching.

He said me that I need to use round magnets of 8 cm of diameter and 1 cm thick for the outer ring, and round 12 cm magnets (1 cm thick) for the rotor part.

He insisted that me try it, but I will have trouble to source such magnets. He insist it works and many people has achieved it.

He instructed me to use a fan as starting point, with a stator ring of magnets of the same diameter than the fan blades (which are of course to be removed).

That's what I got pretty much. Will review the msn log to see if something I forgot.

Anyway he says the diagrams that are already in this thread are what all what is required.

Good nights (or morning, is 15 to 5 am down here)

Regards!

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2008, 11:12:00 AM »
Hi ChileanOne,

Now this is interesting! So... by what this guy is saying, I suppose it is safe to say that he has built a rigid version of this motor that allows him to charge the batteries in his truck!?

If anyone is interested in replicating this, I would be willing to make up a set of blueprints that we can all follow (based on the direction of the designer) if he is willing to guide us to build replications.

Just a few comments, it appears that the magnets in the video were ceramic because of their black color. Also, I'm assuming that you meant to say that the magnets are 8 mm in diameter and not 8 cm? The ones pictured in the video obviously could not have been that large.

Again, I'm willing to offer my services to draft up blueprints for a working model that we can all replicate IF the inventor is willing to openly work with us. You can see some examples of my work from the OC MPMM magnet motor saga:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3871.msg68853.html#msg68853

and

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/OC_MPMM/JasonO/drawing.pdf

This thing looks very simple to make and should be quick and easy to test. I'm willing to jump in on this if we can get some more build details.

Things I would like to know more about:
Diameter of the stator ring
Type of material used for the ring (plastic, wood, steel, etc...
Angle of the magnets in the ring (was it exactly half the magnet face covered, as in (one magnet edge overlaps exactly to the diameter line of the adjacent magnet?)

If the magnet faces are not in direct contact with each other, how much of a space is there between the faces?

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2008, 11:27:08 AM »

Also, I'm assuming that you meant to say that the magnets are 8 mm in diameter and not 8 cm? The ones pictured in the video obviously could not have been that large.
Things I would like to know more about:

Diameter of the stator ring

8cm is the diameter of the stator ring.

In my previous conversation I tried to ask him the type of magnetic field of the magnets but it got lost in translation  :P.

Clanzer I believe you were the one that once posted this chart showing the different configurations a cylindrical magnets can have. Could you post that again please?

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2008, 11:34:11 AM »
8cm is the diameter of the stator ring.

In my previous conversation I tried to ask him the type of magnetic field of the magnets but it got lost in translation  :P.

Clanzer I believe you were the one that once posted this chart showing the different configurations a cylindrical magnets can have. Could you post that again please?

Here's a good reference for the magnetic polarization directions:

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/magdir.asp

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2008, 11:35:35 AM »
Here's another site with even more illustrations too:

http://www.amazingmagnets.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=14

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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2008, 12:10:43 PM »
Clanzer I believe you were the one that once posted this chart showing the different configurations a cylindrical magnets can have. Could you post that again please?

Here is the picture I posted a while back in another thread

(http://www.overunity.org.uk/mpats.jpg)


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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2008, 12:13:48 PM »
Very interesting stuff and well done everyone :)

Of course I will have a go at replicating, but short of time these days, so will not rush in as usual and wait till Jason gets some Blue Prints together of what we all conclude the configuration maybe.

He said to ChileanOne that

Angle of the magnets in the ring (was it exactly half the magnet face covered, as in (one magnet edge overlaps exactly to the diameter line of the adjacent magnet?)

But looking at Picture A2.jpg above it seems they are not half way, did he send these pictures to you Broli?

Cheers

Sean.


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Re: EL IEVE free energy magnetic mill
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2008, 12:23:05 PM »
But looking at Picture A2.jpg above it seems they are not half way, did he send these pictures to you Broli?

Yes he did.