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Author Topic: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!  (Read 30601 times)

Nihilanth

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2008, 09:40:38 AM »
Why would  you  expect anyone to be able to give you  a strait  answer about  what love is?
Because human-made words, have human-made definitions. Any word with out a definition is simply meaningless gibberish. I only ask you crazy love-nuts what love is because whatever definition you give, even if you used a dictionary (like I suggest you try next time) any half-brained reply you make makes you sound even more hilarious.
Love is  infinite... Demanding  love from another is  a sure way to lose it . Giving  love to another  is  a sure way to get more.
What you  give  comes back to you multiplied.
Love = Infinite = Physical Energy = Spiritual Energy, but apparently you can loose love by demanding it. but since by your definition love is everything, and is infinite there's no possible way to loose it. You're so full of contradictions you must be on crack to think you're making any sense.

Also, by your definition since love is everything, it's also horse shit and satan. If you'd like to "convert me" I'd suggest you fight fire with fire, and by that I mean beat my logic with even better logic. Because no amount of preachy mumbo-jumbo will convince me otherwise. If there are alien lifeforms that want to save us in some kind of rapture, they're probably here to save those who think of "the good" rather then believe in a god.

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2008, 02:40:08 PM »
I only ask you crazy love-nuts what love is because whatever definition you give, even if you used a dictionary (like I suggest you try next time)


There are man things in life that  can't be understood through  definitions . 
To  understand understand these thnigs  you have to experience them ..     This makes any  definition  less than ideal ....
If you  try to find love  based on  its definition  in the dictionary  you  are very likely to end up a very lonely person.

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 any half-brained reply you make makes you sound even more hilarious.Love = Infinite = Physical Energy = Spiritual Energy, but apparently you can loose love by demanding it. but since by your definition love is everything, and is infinite there's no possible way to loose it. You're so full of contradictions you must be on crack to think you're making any sense.


I am glad that you are entertained by my ideas  .   :)

There is  no  contradictions  in what I said .     
Love is  the essence of what everything  else is based on.

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Of  course   you have to go about  experiencing  love  the right way to  get more of it.
Demanding  love from another is  a sure way to lose it .
Giving  love to another  is  a sure way to get more.
What you  give  comes back to you multiplied.


This is not  an explanation of what  love is.   This is a simple  practical  explanation  of  how to  experience  more of what love is. 

Other  simple practical  statments that help  people  acheive a greater  degree of love in their  lives  are.

Do unto others as you  would have  them do to  you . 
As  you  sow, so shall you  reap .
   
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Also, by your definition since love is everything, it's also horse shit and satan.


Yes .
Love  is even the  empty space  in atoms .

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 If you'd like to "convert me" I'd suggest you fight fire with fire, and by that I mean beat my logic with even better logic. Because no amount of preachy mumbo-jumbo will convince me otherwise. If there are alien lifeforms that want to save us in some kind of rapture, they're probably here to save those who think of "the good" rather then believe in a god.

I  don't  try to convert anyone .
If a person  has an open mind   my words might  help  them find  more peace  and happiness in their life .       
I think the  chance of that happening  is worth a little effort on my part. 

gary

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2008, 03:43:39 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

Love is Radiant Energy.
Love is Mystical Power.
Love is Cold Electricity.
Love is Soft Particles.
Love is Tesla's Cosmic Rays.
Love is the Ether of which everything is composed.
Love is the Unified Field that Einstein was looking for.
Love is that which GOD created which everything else is composed (even Hans).

That which is indefinable yet is everything at the same time.  It is the that which should be, that already is.  It is a self-solving conundrum, and a self-organizing system.  It is self-conscious energy and matter simultaneously.

Blessed Be...

resonanceman

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2008, 07:14:19 PM »

Love is that which GOD created which everything else is composed (even Hans).




Even Hans ?

Are you  sure about that?

:)

gary

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2008, 08:24:28 PM »
Even Hans ?
Are you  sure about that?
:)
gary
Howdy Resonanceman,

Hans may disagree himself...

Blessed Be...

Nihilanth

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2008, 10:52:46 PM »
There are man things in life that  can't be understood through definitions.
Definitions are merely clarifications describing the essential qualities of something making them clear and distinct. Understanding means that you have a clear and distinct idea of what something is.

If you understood something, then you'd be able to explain something. When you can't give a strait answer, it's obvious that you don't know something, but you blindly believe it.

This is the difference between you and I. I think that all practical information can be known, but I'm willing to admit that I don't know what most of it is. Without making excuses.

There is no contradictions in what I said.
You said that something is both infinite,ever-present, and can't be destroyed, then said that it could be taken away.

This is not  an explanation of what  love is. This is a simple  practical  explanation  of  how to  experience  more of what love is.
In other words "I can't be wrong because I wasn't answering your question"

I  don't  try to convert anyone.
It sure sounds to me like you're trying, and failing. Like someone going to make a basket and missing, but says "yeah but I wasn't even trying, If I tried I would have made it" then what was the point in throwing the ball to begin with?

resonanceman

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2008, 11:47:44 PM »

This is the difference between you and I. I think that all practical information can be known, but I'm willing to admit that I don't know what most of it is. Without making excuses.


The main point  that I was trying to make  was that  you can intellectually  know all there is  about love ..........but until you FEEL  love you don't have a clue  about  it.     With many things  the experience is  completely different than  just knowing about it .

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You said that something is both infinite,ever-present, and can't be destroyed, then said that it could be taken away.


Yes  love is  ever present .     It can never truly  be taken away .
But that is not the  way it looks  from this plane at this time .

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It sure sounds to me like you're trying, and failing. Like someone going to make a basket and missing, but says "yeah but I wasn't even trying, If I tried I would have made it" then what was the point in throwing the ball to begin with?

I am  very aware that   you feel that what you believe is superior to what I believe. 
In order to  convert someone  they have to think that they have a need for a change.
You don't think you   need to change .  I didn't   try to encourage  you  to  believe you need a change.
I  simply  stated my beliefs  .

I   have stated my beliefs ........you  have stated yours.
I don't know about you but I am  done   with this  conversation .

gary

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2008, 06:13:25 AM »
The main point  that I was trying to make  was that  you can intellectually  know all there is about love.
Again with contradicting yourself. The first thing you said to me was:

Defining  the universe  atom by atom  is  an easier task than  defining love ..... our physical universe is  big  but not  truly infinite. Love is  infinite. Love looks different  when  viewed from  different   perspectives .
Sounds to me like you said the exact opposite of your previous post.

I am  very aware that you feel that what you believe is superior to what I believe.
It's not a matter of what you believe that makes me feel superior, it's why you believe. You seem to believe things because you were told to, raised to. The things I "believe" I did so out of my own intellect, thought proscesses and desire for knowledge. That's one of the reasons I work with free energy, I'm willing to challenge beliefs. Be it scientific or spiritual.

I   have stated my beliefs ........you  have stated yours.
Technically, you stated your beliefs, I called you a hypocrite, then we went back and forth. If you hadn't been bashing the very technology you're currently using, then this conversation probably wouldn't have been. You brought it upon yourself.

hansvonlieven

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2008, 10:48:37 AM »
Howdy Y'all,

Grow hemp, and chiles, and tomatoes, and onions, and lots of other stuff, but mainly hemp.

Don't forget barley and hops....

Blessed Be

Says it all about you guys, doesn't it?

Hans von Lieven

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2008, 01:50:03 PM »
Howdy Hans,

Hemp is useful for a lot of things besides getting high.  Rope, clothing, medicine, oil, and I have even heard of hemp being used to synthesize gasoline.  Also have to mention that hemp can be eaten, it is very nutritious, and is rumored to prevent cancer (see the Cancer Cure thread) http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4809.0;topicseen

Fact is, regrettably, that I haven't been able to smoke for quite a long while, so sorry Hans I'm not high, and the Galactic Federation is still coming.

Blessed Be...

WilbyInebriated

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2008, 02:23:58 PM »
Says it all about you guys, doesn't it?

Hans von Lieven
says he grows some of his own produce and possibly textiles, or were you inferring one can get high from hemp? as old of a fart as you are i would think even you would not be that ignorant. would be nice though, we could just smoke up our hippy jewelry when times are tough...

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2008, 04:11:45 PM »

Reptilian/human hybrid skeleton now on display.

More here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn27SwBegbQ


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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2008, 05:26:25 PM »
There is no such thing as a "god". If it were, none of us would be discussing it. It is okay if you are paranoid schizofrenics and believe an obscure entity is watching over your shoulders while you are having  in the darkness of your rooms, alone and abandoned by everyone, but please keep these dellusions to yourselves.

Just as you can't accept no one really believes in that desert nonsense any more (except the mentally deranged), we (normal and intelligent people) can't accept that you keep coming at us and forcing us to believe your nightmares and paranoid dreams.

You are the proof that "god' doesn't exist because s/he is supposedly "perfect", yet you mentally deranged beings are absolute imperfections. That is a paradox. A perfect being cannot create imperfection by default. Since you exist, your "god" doesn't.

As simple as that.

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2008, 06:28:12 PM »
Howdy Dr. Tesla,

Yeah, GOD loves you too...

Blessed Be...

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Re: ATTENTION!!! October 14th 2008 is a possible hit against believers!
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2008, 06:33:45 PM »

And nw, back to a more constructive subject...my previous post relating to a reptilian/human hybrid skeleton on display.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn27SwBegbQ

Regards...