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Author Topic: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !  (Read 95898 times)

Reformator

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Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« on: September 22, 2008, 11:33:45 PM »
This is another Suppressed technology simillar to SEG and IGV, but other inventor.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/ralph_ring.html

(http://www.projectcamelot.org/utron_sm.gif)

(http://www.projectcamelot.org/otis_carr_sm.jpg)

(http://keelynet.com/gravity/carr3.jpg)

(http://keelynet.com/gravity/gyroup.gif)

(http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/images/Otis%20T%20Carr_0011.jpg)

(http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/images/Otis%20T%20Carr_010.jpg)

(http://www.projectcamelot.net/design.gif)


Source
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z.monkey

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 01:50:17 AM »
Howdy Reformator,

Otis T. Carr's flying machine is basically an American copy of a German Vril Levitator.  Mr. Carr was privy to the plethora of information stolen from Germany at the end of World War 2 so he managed to get a lot of Schauberger's notes and Schumann's notes on building the Vril Levitator craft.  I fist encountered his antigrav back in the early 1990's when I first started researching antigravity...

Blessed Be...
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2008, 11:09:19 AM »
I wathced the 50min video interview of Ralph Ring on the page you linked:

http://www.projectcamelot.org/ralph_ring.html

Great stuff, great story.
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Reformator

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2008, 06:35:40 PM »
If you haven't notice it, there is a counter rotation

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2181/otis20t20carr010kw9.jpg)

although I can't remember which part (the inner or outer) moved clockwise, the other moves in the opposite direction.


That's why the experimental X2 model didn't fly!
(http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartSPIN_X2/SmartSPIN_X2.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAavF8EJzw

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2008, 07:27:57 PM »
Howdy Reformator,

The Vril Levitator also has two counter rotating disks, on smaller than the other.  On the larger, lower disk there are several gyros which serve to balance and stabilize the two main disks....

Blessed Be...
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 03:21:25 AM »
I watched a lecture recently in which there's a mention of Tesla's "blue notebook" that was apparently left by Tesla to someone (don't recall the name off-hand), and long story short Otis Carr had possession of it for awhile until it was stolen from him.

So I do not believe Vril Society originated any of these discoveries either. Germans had access to Tesla's writings just like the Americans and the Russians did.

If there's interest, I'll dig out more info about the lecture and post it here..
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 01:21:39 AM »
I have built this gyro ship , and i have to say that it doesn't work, the gyroscopic precession formula is appealing, but the problem is that those formulas are based on the fact that the gyro is free to align to the gravitational vector when it is unconstrained.
I am 100% sure that the Vril doesn't use this method for propulsion, the gyroscopes, one they reach a certain speed they stop to rotate even if they are still powered by batteries.
the angular momentum stop the motor rotating the disc , no way i tried every configuration, you can' beat the angular momentum conservation law.
This device won't lift by 0.0000001 cm from the gorund.
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2008, 03:11:33 AM »

Please do post the info on Tesla's blue book, amigo.

Regards...

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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2008, 03:23:19 AM »
Hi Cap-Z-ro

It was more of an anecdotal information, through a lecture/documentary video I watched. The video was Jim Murray - Discussion of Advanced Energy Technologies Researched Since 1960s.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6761827664845630969
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2008, 03:43:11 AM »

Thanks amigo...any info input is helpful in my overunity.com educational courses.

Off to view the video.

Regards...
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2008, 06:26:31 AM »
I remember seeing a video a long time ago.  It showed four gyroscopes on opposing axis which, when rotated on the central axis, was supposed to levitated into the air.  I have played with gyroscopes a bit and always wondered if the precession could be made to do work.  I think the video was on NOVA or some such public tv documentary.  This experiment took place inside a barn like structure.

That's all I know.  I would hope something like this could work but I am not optimistic.  It seems to me, just like the helicopter, when the device lifts off the ground, why would it continue to turn around its axis?  Would not the rotating motor on the central axis begin to spin, and the gyroscope arms stand still?  Anyway, that is all I have to add.

Bill
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 11:30:31 AM »
To see how the Germans got the information from Tesla, look for the book "The Bush Connection" by Orion. It was written from the pictures and information from Hitlers main body guard Otto Skorzeny.

From the book:

Skorzeny alleges that George Herbert Walker Bush was/is an SS nazi spy, as was he. “Allegedly”, George H.W. Bush was
born in Germany as George H. Scherff Jr., the son of Dr. Nikola Tesla’s German born, illegal immigrant, accountant George H.
Scherff Sr. George Sr. had been robbing Tesla blind for years & giving Tesla’s secret inventions directly to Adolph Hitler. In
1938, Hitler sent 14 year old George H. Scherff Jr. to America to try to befriend, spy on, & kill the Great Inventor, Dr. Nikola
Tesla! George later forged a birth certificate evidencing he was older. He falsely claimed that his last name was Bush, the son
of Prescott & joined the U.S. Navy. Skorzeny claims that he did not fly 58 combat missions for the U.S. Navy as claimed. He
also claims that George H.W. Bush deliberately sabotaged his Grumman TBF Avenger. He radioed his position to his nazi-
comrades waiting in a German Submarine below, shot his instrument panel full of holes, and then he put the plane into a steep
nosedive, & parachuted to safety. His tail-gunner Lt. Junior Grade William White and Radioman Second Class John Delaney
were not able to get out of the plane and parachute to safety because of the tremendous g-forces. The radioman & tail gunner
were both killed while George Herbert Walker Bush survived.  The “sunken” Grumman Avenger Torpedo Bomber was then
towed out to sea by the German U-Boat to a large cargo ship waiting near by. The cargo ship had a giant crane on board that
was used to lift the “fully-intact”, Avenger onto the ship. The cargo ship then sailed undisturbed back to Germany. That’s how
nazi-Germany was able to “steal” America’s advanced Top Secret, “rotating 50 caliber machine-gun turret”, TBF Avenger
Bomber technology. George H.W. Bush you deserve to be tried & convicted as a nazi war criminal just like Prescott was!
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 10:49:06 PM »
I think the key is that the size is related to the speed. Look at this statement he makes in the interview at this link:

http://keelynet.com/gravity/carr4.htm

Colton - We're not giving it for a certain rotation for the sake of rotation but for the sake of relativity to the attractive mass. The earth at 8000 miles diameter rotating once in 24 hours is relatively equal to a 45 foot craft rotating at 580 and 580 would calculate to be the approximate rotational speed of an automobile tire on a car moving at about 25-30 miles per hour.

So size is related to speed. That is why the smaller a wheel is, the easier it is to spin faster with the same amount of energy used to spin a bigger disk.

So he said the craft is 15M in diameter. We know the earth at it's equator is 12756320M which is

12756320/15 = 850421.3333 bigger the earth is than the craft.

We know the earth spins once in 1440 minutes.

The craft at 15M would need to spin 850421.3333 times faster than the earth since it is that many times smaller.

He said it needed to spin at 580 rpm so 580 x 1440 (minutes in a day) is 835200 rpd. Very close to the 850421. A less than 2% difference.

So to achieve anti gravity just spin something at it's speed relative to it's size and it will cease to be influenced by the system it is operating in.

I recall reading about Viktor Schauberger creating a disk that span so fast that it shot up in the air at tremendous speeds. A 10 cm disk using these calculations would have to spin at a rpm of 87000 which would take quite a bit of energy using standard motor technology.

Do we have any examples of a mass spinning at it's relative speed? What type of energy is needed to get a 10 cm disk spinning to 87000rpm. Is there some calculation for that?
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2008, 12:09:00 AM »

Thanks for that info on Bush storre.

Viktor Schauberger is the man when it comes to earth/nature related technology...I don't recall reading of any relation to size relative to speed in the things I read on his craft...did I miss a reference somewhere else ?

If Otis's craft creates its own magnetic field, as alien craft do, and are not subject to 'G' forces, then I can't see the earth's field being an issue.

But who knows, your math skills are far superior to mine...I think I was sick that day. :)

Regards...
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Re: Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2008, 03:58:53 AM »
The main reason the Vril and Haunebu are still secret is that in order to create a magnetic field it take unimaginable amounts of energy, and it is the holy grail of electric generator and simple , its not unlike a Bedini gate and surely working like a Bedini motor to generate levitation the geometry needs to be precise but not as much for the generator part.The main difference is the shape of the coil core it is a c shape to take both sides of the magnet.It as 12 stator coil, on the rotor the magnet are not fixed but can rotate the shape of the magnet permit rotation without bad vibration.A starting motor and there we have it. On a smaller scale we can assume that a c shape laminate core should improve any Bedini experiment using both side of the magnet to generate magnetic pull .Obvious more coils, if electricity in the coil create magnetic pull , that can be fixed by feeding the coils to a transformer.
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