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Author Topic: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite  (Read 69631 times)

Offline 2b

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2010, 10:07:31 PM »
@zpfe
I think any student that tries to build the devices mentioned by these 3 men will learn invaluable info from it.
Your fear of there minds being destroyed by these inventions is totally uncalled for.
I would be far more concerned about those same kids spending all there free time playing video games, learning nothing.
You mentioned yourself that there is an unexplained phenomenon present. 
This alone could spark a child's imagination and lead them to a great new discovery.
No child is so gullible that they would wast there whole life away on useless experimentation.
Most people have a short attention span to begin with and if they got poor results from a device they would move on to something else.
But the info learned from the experiment can be priceless.
What these 3 men have done is opened the minds of many to a new view of the world around us.
And they have sparked countless other concepts.

that is beside the point.  the point is that Bedini and Bearden are con-men, frauds.  they make claims about products they sell which are false.  the false claims do not have to be made to impart whatever value you claim from the products.  what you are saying is that it is OK to break into people's homes, because it teaches kids how locks work, or breaking down a door teaches kids about Newton's laws of physics.  that is ridiculous.  you don't need to commit crime to teach.

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2010, 02:39:30 AM »
all-in-all, Bedini (with 1st grade grammar and spelling) and Bearden (PhD psycho-babbler w/fraudulent degrees) make me sick.  and i wish someone would sue them because they are frauds of the highest order; without attorneys, to keep expenses low.  just to shut them the hell up.  they've been rambling BS for over a quarter century, and mucking up the waters so that nobody can see clearly.  if the reason for loving them is hating govt, better think again.  i can't think of a better govt psy-op than those hoaxers.

ahhh ad hominem... is that the best logical fallacy you can come up with? an ad hom?  LOL

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2010, 02:41:52 AM »
what you are saying is that it is OK to break into people's homes, because it teaches kids how locks work, or breaking down a door teaches kids about Newton's laws of physics.  that is ridiculous.  you don't need to commit crime to teach.
he didn't say anything of the sort!! now you are just making shit up and putting words in peoples mouths. try a cogent argument, if you know what one is.

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2010, 02:41:52 AM »
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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #63 on: February 11, 2010, 01:21:10 PM »
Please insert 25 cents then follow the hall way to the Egress.

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2010, 06:16:55 PM »
Interesting article.

I agree with it. Bedini even if innocent seeing guy... all that he is saying is a bunch of BS. I have been reading Tesla, and the man opened my eyes.

I admit that i was intrigued in this wonderful yet frustrating field of research by Bedini's teachings.
I have built several SSG types machines (my last on livingroom is per specs)
Nothing the unusual about it. Not magnetic current, not scalar souths, no radiant conversion. If you have been seen the EFTV series, this man have said almsot everything.

Charged iron contributes to mechanical eneergy, scalar south, negatively charged battery that require DC-to-Dc convertor, capacitative discharges of radiance, not to speak of Battery conditioning  (plainly overcharging).

From the most noob to the most expert one is for sure. Noone completely understands what he is saying, no-one has replicated any serious OU that is attributed to Bedini methods and not to other parameters (if at all).

Bedini in his site claims OU and COPs ranging from 1.7 to 60. Name a person with a cop of 1.0001 in the whole net based on Bedini concepts. Yet he circulates DVD after DVD and book after book saying  "THIS TIME YOU HAVE NOT EXCUSE NOT TO MAKE AN OU DEVICE" yet no matter how much meticulus tries have been made by fine craftmen, nothing is to be found.

When he asked, he just vaguely replies and says that's the way i do it. Ok...
Claims are free. Every nuts could claim everything... but this is BUSINESS. Fortunately, i long ago i dismissed Bedini's theories and proceeded with pure Tesla science. After all all the time Tesla's name is summoned by Bedini and his blind followers.

if you happen and study Tesla, you should see that even though at his time he was facing unknown phenomena discovered by him, yet he found out correlations and resemblences to other aspects of life hence his studies were  explained to others easily. Take Bedini, he will just tell everything to confuse / blur the waters yet the main questions remain unsolved.

Personally, i do not even taking Bedini seriouly after the fiasko of coordinated effort at energetic.com forum for replicating the ellusive Kromrey generator as an OU device  - "that after seeing the DVD we have not any excuse at not doing so " - .

Actually, if you see carefully every EFTV series, including the EFTV 10 of the supposedly OU Kromrey machine demoed by Bedini, there is not a hint of OU nowhere around. The particular machine runs at 300 watts and charges much less..

I can talk for hours...  yet not one can provide any sensible counter argument. At Best his machines are peculliar (due to their pulsing nature) but nothing exotical. Clever enginnering and even more clever marketing!

For those not pursuaded, they should buy the several coming DvDs, and books of the Bedini league and sooner or later they will see my points.

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2010, 06:16:55 PM »
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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2010, 07:11:54 PM »


I have built 3 Bedini motors and all of them work as advertised and I am very pleased with them.

They are a lot of fun to make and I learned a lot while building them.  I actually like my JonnyDavro replications of the One Magnet No Bearing Bedini Motor the best.

Bill

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2010, 07:14:19 PM »
Then you must enjoy lots of Overunity... lucky man. LOL

How are your rates? One battery in for how many out?

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2010, 07:14:19 PM »
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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2010, 07:18:38 PM »
Then you must enjoy lots of Overunity... lucky man. LOL

How are your rates? One battery in for how many out?

My input is from my EER (Free energy) and the output is to a 9 volt.  It will run as long as you want it to.  It turns the magnet, charges the battery and also lights a 120 volt neon.  This has all been documented on my tube videos.

Bill

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2010, 07:21:07 PM »
You consider it an answer regarding Bedini's alleged OU technology? pfff

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2010, 07:21:07 PM »
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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2010, 07:50:32 PM »
@baroutologos
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Bedini in his site claims OU and COPs ranging from 1.7 to 60. Name a person with a cop of 1.0001 in the whole net based on Bedini concepts. Yet he circulates DVD after DVD and book after book saying  "THIS TIME YOU HAVE NOT EXCUSE NOT TO MAKE AN OU DEVICE" yet no matter how much meticulus tries have been made by fine craftmen, nothing is to be found.

I think you know what the real problem is as well as most of the other critics, you are looking for someone to blame for your own lack of success. Your ego will not let you admit you could be wrong or that you do not have the required knowledge to succeed or do not have the determination to succeed--- so you blame and degrade others. I have been down this road many years ago and I can tell you it is a dead end, it serves no constructive purpose and will only make you more unhappy than you already are. My turning point was when I took a good hard look in the mirror and decided I will seek understanding first, I will do my own thing in my own time and I will accept responsibility for my failures, I will act as a responsible adult. From that point on things began to make much more sense and became very easy, many times the pressure we place on ourselves makes us our own worst enemy.
Regards
AC

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #70 on: February 11, 2010, 09:27:55 PM »
So, if I understand zpfe, he will be putting Nikola Tesla on trial and trying to prove his devices/patents don't work ?
zpfe will try and sue the people who have been promoting "Do it yourself Technology" based on Tesla's work.

The courts are based on Equity (Admiralty Law, Corporate Code), unless you have evidence that you (flesh and blood) where injured (property or person) by these "experiments".

Maybe zpfe has proof that he was "forced" to buy their "Books and DVD's" based on their slick salesmanship (money back return guaranteed)!

There are a minimum of 278 patents issued to Tesla, in 26 countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_patents

Schpankme
Your mileage may vary

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #70 on: February 11, 2010, 09:27:55 PM »
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #71 on: February 11, 2010, 10:36:09 PM »
If somebody has "two left arms" and is not able to build,
you can also buy the Bedini devices as chargers over here:

http://www.r-charge.com/products.html
or
http://energenx.com/products.html

and as Kits over here:

http://potentialtec.com/

Bedini and Friedrich just released their 10 Pole Motor kit,
which looks pretty amazing with all their Plexiglas stands
and huge coils.

http://potentialtec.com/10EnergizerCoils.jpg
http://rpmgt.org/10PoleMonopole1.jpg

I have seen an new HD movie about it on Youtube somewhere
a few ays ago, but I can´t find the link to it.
It is not in their current
Energenx or Rickfriedrich Youtube accounts.


Offline Pirate88179

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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #72 on: February 11, 2010, 10:54:59 PM »
Stefan:

I think this might be the one you were talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA2KtZ45nXA

He explains a lot about his new system in this video.

Bill


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Re: RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite
« Reply #74 on: February 11, 2010, 11:53:54 PM »
@baroutologos
I think you know what the real problem is as well as most of the other critics, you are looking for someone to blame for your own lack of success. Your ego will not let you admit you could be wrong or that you do not have the required knowledge to succeed or do not have the determination to succeed--- so you blame and degrade others. I have been down this road many years ago and I can tell you it is a dead end, it serves no constructive purpose and will only make you more unhappy than you already are. My turning point was when I took a good hard look in the mirror and decided I will seek understanding first, I will do my own thing in my own time and I will accept responsibility for my failures, I will act as a responsible adult. From that point on things began to make much more sense and became very easy, many times the pressure we place on ourselves makes us our own worst enemy.
Regards
AC

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