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Offline Tenbatsu

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2010, 07:59:16 PM »
Even if Rosemary Ainsile's circuit is not COP>17 or even COP>1 it deserves to be discussed here.

There are plenty of people here at overunity.com that go on and on about having a working overunity device - yet, with perhaps the exception of Omnibus, they get little flak and/or resistance.  Rosemary on the other hand had her thread flooded several times by the same people repeating the same arguments in an attempt to dissuade others from looking into the circuit.  I have to question their motives as most people who disagree with an inventor usually make their comments, defend them to a certain degree, then leave the thread quietly depending on the outcome.  This was definitely not the case in this instance as I believe their goal was to squelch Rosemary Ainslie's thread and halt further public exposure.

If hartiberlin wants this forum to remain successful he needs to implement and apply proper moderation.  It does not need to be heavy handed but even a little moderation would have salvaged that thread.  Squelching discussion is never the answer, maintaining civility should be apart of the forum rules and should be properly enforced by moderators here at all times.

Hopefully this action is not a look at things to come for I fear it will mean the end of this forum as many will find other places to freely interact with their peers without fear of having their work removed and deleted.  I hope you reconsider your actions, Stefan.

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2010, 07:59:16 PM »

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2010, 08:24:45 PM »
Rosemary could have had a fresh start here on her thread. In her very first post she stated what she intended on doing. Did she follow through? Then in reply #3 she started her bad mouthing again about the previous people who tried to help her. And her bad mouthing continued forward from that post. Go read for yourselves. And in the beginning page she had 2 people offer to start a build. What happened to them? Why didn't they do a build? They both still post in this forum. Go read who they are and ask them why they did not follow through. And its too bad that she didn't learn from her warnings from the Admin on EF.com because she was warned to not talk about or mention the names of certain people and to just go about her own business. Did she comply? She would not have been banned if she followed the advice.

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2010, 08:39:05 PM »
  @poynt99 & willby;

   Thank's for bringing this up. It's so disappointing that pepole from other forum's with clear agendas can successfully influence Stephan with ease and silence a discussion of a technology regardless of it's merits of a successful outcome. It my be winter and there is no heater that he knows of but is that what this forum is for? Is only proven technology allowed here? If that's the case some one has a lot of deleting to do.

Guys.  I need to advise you - in the hopes that Stefan won't delete this too.  I have some seminal public domain disclosures relating to our magnetic monopole - that needs to be salvaged as proof of having been made public.  I also suspect that the work related to the thesis is the issue as this is when the flaming was both initiated and allowed.  Poynty?  Someone?  Please help me out and allow those postings due record.  I assure you there's an agenda.  Why else delete?  Just lock - surely?  I've spent the last 12 hours downloading the info on just 1 thread.  But I need to keep it public while there's still some relevant memory related to this.  I'm not concerned about the switching circuit.  We already have a mountain of data.  I just absolutely cannot make it public while I KNOW that this work is being coveted with the intention of stealing it.  Unfortunately none of you actually realise this yet. 

PLEASE HELP ME OUT POYNTY.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

BTW - IF Energetic forum also remove and/or delete my work then that will put paid to this.  It will, I promise you, be resurrected as Harvey's or Glen's work. 

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2010, 08:39:05 PM »
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Offline happyfunball

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2010, 08:41:40 PM »
Rosemary could have had a fresh start here on her thread. In her very first post she stated what she intended on doing. Did she follow through? Then in reply #3 she started her bad mouthing again about the previous people who tried to help her. And her bad mouthing continued forward from that post. Go read for yourselves. And in the beginning page she had 2 people offer to start a build. What happened to them? Why didn't they do a build? They both still post in this forum. Go read who they are and ask them why they did not follow through. And its too bad that she didn't learn from her warnings from the Admin on EF.com because she was warned to not talk about or mention the names of certain people and to just go about her own business. Did she comply? She would not have been banned if she followed the advice.

It seems quite apparent that she needed to name names in order to sort out who is trying to take credit for her work. You should have all just left her alone and allow her to publish her results.

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2010, 08:56:16 PM »
Stefan,

I am a bit alarmed that you intend on deleting after one week the 3 or 4 threads dealing with Rosemary Ainslie's circuit.  :o

I agree that there are many posts that could/should be deleted, but the fact remains that the threads were virtually un-moderated, and for that they deteriorated to the level they are at today.

It would be a shame to lose all those posts that are genuine and on-topic. May I suggest that the worst that be done is to delete all non-pertinent, non-technical posts and leave the threads locked, or just leave them locked as they are.

I don't think it is right to delete them in their entirety, unless of course the thread has no technical merit whatsoever.

.99

Just seen this.  I'm so trying to reach either Poynty or Wilby.  I'm taking the trouble to repeat my post.  PLEASE GUYS.  HELP ME OUT.

Rosie

Guys.  I need to advise you - in the hopes that Stefan won't delete this too.  I have some seminal public domain disclosures relating to our magnetic monopole - that needs to be salvaged as proof of having been made public.  I also suspect that the work related to the thesis is the issue as this is when the flaming was both initiated and allowed.  Poynty?  Someone?  Please help me out and allow those postings due record.  I assure you there's an agenda.  Why else delete?  Just lock - surely?  I've spent the last 12 hours downloading the info on just 1 thread.  But I need to keep it public while there's still some relevant memory related to this.  I'm not concerned about the switching circuit.  We already have a mountain of data.  I just absolutely cannot make it public while I KNOW that this work is being coveted with the intention of stealing it.  Unfortunately none of you actually realise this yet.

PLEASE HELP ME OUT POYNTY.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

BTW - IF Energetic forum also remove and/or delete my work then that will put paid to this.  It will, I promise you, be resurrected as Harvey's or Glen's work.

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2010, 08:56:16 PM »
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Offline fuzzytomcat

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2010, 09:45:56 PM »
Stefan,

I am a bit alarmed that you intend on deleting after one week the 3 or 4 threads dealing with Rosemary Ainslie's circuit.  :o

I agree that there are many posts that could/should be deleted, but the fact remains that the threads were virtually un-moderated, and for that they deteriorated to the level they are at today.

It would be a shame to lose all those posts that are genuine and on-topic. May I suggest that the worst that be done is to delete all non-pertinent, non-technical posts and leave the threads locked, or just leave them locked as they are.

I don't think it is right to delete them in their entirety, unless of course the thread has no technical merit whatsoever.

.99

Hi poynt99,

I e-mailed my concerns also to Stefan about this matter ....

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Hi Stefan,
 
I saw poynt99 posting in http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5605.msg263751#msg263751  and I tend to now agree with him on the original thread " Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie" started by TK, is mostly technical in nature and was locked by me before any flaming could start in it like what happened at Energetic forum. They ended up going through and deleting about 200 postings prior to the letter sent out I posted http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg263187#msg263187 with there decision, for some reason the links don't work now but the e-mail is there.
 
 
DON'T FORGET  ..... the .... "Bash Rosemary Ainslie" self moderated locked thread http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9645.0 if you did deleted the three threads only and not this one ..... who knows what Rosemary would do or say.
 
 
The only two postings in the "**UN CENSORED** Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit" and the "Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder" are these .....
 
EXPERIMENTAL DEVICE TESTING AND EVALUATION "TIME LINE" -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg262932#msg262932
 
"FORUM" Access Problems / File Locations -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg262994#msg262994
 
 
I did hear from Tektronix and I don't know where Rosemary's "SWORN" affidavit is going but it appears there not happy at all, so no telling what Tektronix and Scribd may do concerning this matter.
 
 
Best Regards,
Glen

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2010, 09:58:10 PM »
Even if Rosemary Ainsile's circuit is not COP>17 or even COP>1 it deserves to be discussed here.

There are plenty of people here at overunity.com that go on and on about having a working overunity device - yet, with perhaps the exception of Omnibus, they get little flak and/or resistance.  Rosemary on the other hand had her thread flooded several times by the same people repeating the same arguments in an attempt to dissuade others from looking into the circuit.  I have to question their motives as most people who disagree with an inventor usually make their comments, defend them to a certain degree, then leave the thread quietly depending on the outcome.  This was definitely not the case in this instance as I believe their goal was to squelch Rosemary Ainslie's thread and halt further public exposure.

If hartiberlin wants this forum to remain successful he needs to implement and apply proper moderation.  It does not need to be heavy handed but even a little moderation would have salvaged that thread.  Squelching discussion is never the answer, maintaining civility should be apart of the forum rules and should be properly enforced by moderators here at all times.

Hopefully this action is not a look at things to come for I fear it will mean the end of this forum as many will find other places to freely interact with their peers without fear of having their work removed and deleted.  I hope you reconsider your actions, Stefan.

Hi Tenbatsu - I assure you that the work is definitely COP>even that 17.  This is precisely why it is being buried.  Please don't allow it to happen.  I need everyone to rally - even if it's simply to download copies of that thread.  Otherwise the work will be resurrected as belonging to you know who.

This is just the start.  They're knocking my work off Scribd and I just PRAY that they don't delete the work at EF.COM. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2010, 09:58:10 PM »
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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2010, 10:08:52 PM »
Rosemary could have had a fresh start here on her thread. In her very first post she stated what she intended on doing. Did she follow through? Then in reply #3 she started her bad mouthing again about the previous people who tried to help her. And her bad mouthing continued forward from that post. Go read for yourselves. And in the beginning page she had 2 people offer to start a build. What happened to them? Why didn't they do a build? They both still post in this forum. Go read who they are and ask them why they did not follow through. And its too bad that she didn't learn from her warnings from the Admin on EF.com because she was warned to not talk about or mention the names of certain people and to just go about her own business. Did she comply? She would not have been banned if she followed the advice.

When it comes to bad mouthing Truthbeknown - I don't believe that anyone on any forum anywhere on the internet has been bad mouthed to the extent that I have been.  Curiously it is always and only those members who actively research ou tecnologies and never themselves initiate new ideas - unlike the most of the members here.  There are precisely 6 of them.  And they have followed me EVERYWHERE - either in full on replications or in denying those replications when completed.  What's lacking is their acknowledgement of their own publicly stated results.  And it's that acknowledgement that is scarey.

@Glen.  Your desire to resurrect 'claimed overunity' is another political ploy.  It is the only thread that actively bad mouthed me - at a time when I could not even access this forum - or even that thread.  Your objects are transparent.  Always.

Rosemary

Offline DeepCut

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2010, 01:47:34 AM »
I vote for the two lists suggestion.

On the other hand, without having to re-write some PHP, maybe we shouldn't be so click-lazy, it's not hard to find new posts that are only OU-related, it's just not 'at a glance' easy ...

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2010, 02:01:43 AM »
@all

I have a question about Rosemary heater , first its a heater . How efficient is it compared to other heaters device generally used , regardless of OU claims , that might be the issue ...


Mark


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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2010, 03:03:10 AM »
I vote for the two lists suggestion.

On the other hand, without having to re-write some PHP, maybe we shouldn't be so click-lazy, it's not hard to find new posts that are only OU-related, it's just not 'at a glance' easy ...

A bandaid solution isn't the answer imho.

An occasional dose of admin moderation could go a long way. There is quite a bit of slander that goes unchecked in some threads.

.99

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2010, 03:15:08 AM »
A bandaid solution isn't the answer imho.

An occasional dose of admin moderation could go a long way. There is quite a bit of slander that goes unchecked in some threads.

.99
indeed.

there is also quite a bit of logical fallacy going unchecked throughout the whole of the forum. funny though that stefan is so up in arms with the ainslie threads and yet the stiffler thread still stands... after all the deleting of off topic and abusive posts that stiffler did as moderator, why did that thread not receive the same treatment as the ainslie thread? why was it not locked and deleted after a week? is it because glen, harvey, ashtweth, et al cried and whinged to stefan? perhaps stefan can clear up the reasons behind these inconsistencies.
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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2010, 05:19:24 AM »
It's like I'm not here - that I'm banned or put into coventry like a naughty school girl.  What is wrong with you all?  Wilby I need help - and you are entirely ignoring me.  My intention - if it's half way legal - is to transpose the whole of that thread onto a public forum.  I have already copied the thread and posted it to you.  Why are you not replying?  And Poynty?  It would be SO EASY for you to do just this.  Just salvagage that thread from extinction.  There are points made in it that are pertinent to both the thesis and to intellectual property that REALLY needs to remain OPEN SOURCE.  if you care at all about Open Source then PLEASE ASSIST by COPYING AT LEAST MY THREAD.  It is absolutely NOT ENOUGH that I have the only extant copy.

Meanwhile - would someone please advise me where I'm meant to put the link to my blog?  Are my posts even being read?  Or are these posts of mine somehow not public.  I HAVE DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG OTHER THAN DEFEND MY CORNER.  Where is there ANY residual loyalty amongs you?

ROSEMARY

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2010, 05:38:56 AM »
@all

I have a question about Rosemary heater , first its a heater . How efficient is it compared to other heaters device generally used , regardless of OU claims , that might be the issue ...


Mark


And the only reason I'm taking the trouble to answer you MARK - is because you will NEVER get the TRUTH OF THIS FROM ANY OF THOSE PLAYERS.  And they are the only ones apart from me who can tell it like it REALLY IS.  Just copy this post if nothing else.  And then take a long hard look at it when we finally manage to go public on a forum that is NOT ON THE INTERNET

MARK.  The heater - compared to other heaters is is PRECISELY TWICE AS EFFICIENT.  And in full on resonance mode it delivers GREATER THAN UNITY.  In this mode it is capable to returning so much energy to the supply that IF you had the right watt meter you could bill your utility supplier.  There are three reasons this information is NOT MADE PUBLIC.  They are Harvey, Glen and Ashtweth.  These same reasons are Truthbeknown Tinsel Koala and Truthbeknown.  Sorry.  I left of two more.  TRUTHBEKNOWN AND HARVEY.  With the entire exception of Tinselkoala - they are - inter alia - the same people - if they can be classed at human - at all.

AND IF ANYONE EVER AGAIN DOUBTS THAT THERE IS A CONSPIRACY IN THE OFFING RELATED TO THE SUPPRESSION OF FREE ENERGY DEVICES - LET THE DELETION OF MY THREADS STAND AS PROOF.  There is self-evidently - an endless supply of funds that is invested into those more capable players - that they SUPPRESS technologies for the purposes of THEFT.  It's happening UNDER YOUR NOSES for God Sake.  And no-one is doing anything at all. 

Just ask yourselves.  WHY THE NEED TO DELETE THOSE THREADS?  There is proof of slander on this forum and other threads that makes our own seem like amateurs.  YET THE THREADS ARE NOT DELETED.  WHY?  Guys.  These OPEN FORUMS are the seeding ground for things that are going on the background which neither YOU NOR I will EVER BE FULLY CONVERSANT WITH.  Glen pretends to ANGER - HARVEY PRETENDS THE CIRCUIT IS INEFFICIENT - ASHTWETH PRETENDS HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.  They post - this tirelessly - because this is all  REALLY DESIRABLE TECHNOLOGY - based on a thesis - THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN EVERY PARTICULAR.  And this extended and super efficient BURIAL OF THE THREADS - because there is that that has now been put public domain - even NEW technolgy - that points to ABSOLUTELY FREE ENERGY and ANTI GRAVITY - and NO FURTHER REQUIREMENT FOR NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS.  IT'S ALL ON THAT THREAD THAT THEY NOW NEED TO DELETE.


Rosemary

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Re: off OU topic distractions
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2010, 06:01:35 AM »
sorry rosemary, i was not intentionally ignoring you. i replied to some posts and then had to leave. i'm not quite sure where this posted copy of the thread is that you want my assistance with. i checked my pm's and my email and did not find any correspondence from you.

 

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