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Title: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: hartiberlin on September 20, 2008, 12:57:08 PM
Hi All,
have a look at this new released
Keppe Motor:

http://www.keppemotor.com/index.php


Here are 3 Videos of it on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo6y2fwLZ_Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTwwt-lmEA8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkCg_NBbVy0


Looks to me simular to a Newman motor combined with
the recharging effect of a Bedini motor charging up batteries..

Has anyone seen one live on a conference yet ?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: b0rg13 on September 20, 2008, 12:58:48 PM
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5598.0/topicseen.html
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: hartiberlin on September 20, 2008, 01:07:04 PM
There is also an upcoming conference in San Diego,Ca
from the 24th to 27th of September 2008
where this motor will be shown:

http://www.wcatus.org/program_tabela.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYNoFrLOvqY


From September 24 -- 27, 2008, the STOP Association is sponsoring
a World Conference of Analytical Trilogy, the science our programs are based on.
We are asking for your further support in running our PSA about this landmark scientific conference that offers so much hope for our world.
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: cyclopz on September 21, 2008, 09:19:01 PM
I just read about the keppe motor and watched the youtube videos. Looks very cool and surprisingly simple. An invention like this would totally help the world... I hope they are able to get it to the market, assuming it's real of course.
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: bobscalar on September 22, 2008, 02:34:06 PM
Newman motor transform matter in energy, and this new motor has the correct dialetics that the space is energy and can be capture trough this newmotor. The technology of this kind will be the technology of the future. Read the book New physics of Norberto Keppe to get more information about the right concepts o f physics.
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: sirmikey1 on September 23, 2008, 01:31:30 PM
Not really the latest solid state generator technology.  He could have
at least used a pulsing and switching circuit to charge the one battery.
Seems like nobody is testing these things to determine efficiency. 
SM   
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: stanis on November 28, 2008, 09:58:57 AM
A Portugean version of the plans for a very simple version of the motor has been posted;

http://www.keppemotor.com/pt/
http://www.keppemotor.com/pt/splash.php

Stanis
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: tagor on November 28, 2008, 10:43:58 AM
A Portugean version of the plans for a very simple version of the motor has been posted;


Stanis , can you post it here please ?
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: nightlife on November 28, 2008, 04:24:25 PM
 There is nothing special about this. There is no free energy here and it too consumes more then it recovers. They are supplying a pulse of energy to the coil and recapturing the collapsing field to charge a battery, the result is just a high efficient motor but they are not recovering more then what is used nor are they recovering all of what is used.

 

 

 

 

 
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: khabe on November 28, 2008, 10:29:03 PM
There is nothing special about this. There is no free energy here and it too consumes more then it recovers. They are supplying a pulse of energy to the coil and recapturing the collapsing field to charge a battery, the result is just a high efficient motor but they are not recovering more then what is used nor are they recovering all of what is used.
I dont agree about "high efficient motor" - this is extremely low efficient motor when it will be used like work horse (because motors primely maden).
This motor runs near idling, near no load. This motor has no flux returning parts (for rotor magnet) - it has no iron losses because but if to build it at least 5 kW version then it will weight few tons minimum because rotor magnet without flux returning circuit must to be colossal (when compared with normal ironless (air-gap) motor.
You can build extreme efficient "normal" motor as well - you just use larger airgap and the best low-loss magnetic materials - all calculated for no load run - you will get efficent near 99% ...
but !!!  even smallest load what exceed calculated value will cause cruel disappointment - precipitous downfall of efficiency, very cheesy performance ...
In principle you can build your own version of Newman´s or Keppe motors - take any ironless (airgap) motor and remove flux returning rings.
What you´ll get - better one ???
No :'(
Never >:(
regards,
Khabe
 
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: khabe on November 28, 2008, 11:08:53 PM
The only different between Newman´s and Keppe motors - the last one has axial polarity rotor and has seems electronical commutator ... see four sensors where one man is tuning timing when other adds voltage - so its without Newman´s "carbon fusion devices", Stephan 8)
gruss,
khabe
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: Isdaudio on December 03, 2008, 10:41:45 PM
Hello all,

I personally know the Scientists who built the Keppe motor including Dr. Norberto Keppe. Travelling to Brazil & San Diego, I have seen this motor many times and even had a minor role in editing "The New Physics" book which contains the principles that the Keppe Motor are based on.

"recapturing the collapsing field to charge a battery, the result is just a high efficient motor but they are not recovering more then what is used nor are they recovering all of what is used."


This statement is not correct. Actually the Keppe Motor is capable of producing more energy than goes into it and is only marketed as an efficient motor to avoid cynical North Americans who have heard this story a million times. I like you  am awaiting the English translated Keppe Motor Manual so I can build the motor and see if this one is capable of "perpetual energy" also.  It may need some modifications, I am sure there are some folks forum that could easily figure this out or you could contact the Inventors in Brazil and they may be able to help you.

The first time I saw the Keppe Motor it produced so much extra current that it actually freed back into the rectifying circuit  frying some components. I spoke with Cesar Soos one of the inventers about this and he confirmed that this was one of his early prototypes and that soon they would be able to prevent this from happening and re-channel the extra current into another device or battery(s). I have not spoken with Cesar for a couple of months now but I assume he has worked out this problem as the manual is now for public sale.

“I don’t agree about "high efficient motor" - this is extremely low efficient motor when it will be used like work horse (because motors primely maden).
This motor runs near idling, near no load. This motor has no flux returning parts (for rotor magnet) - it has no iron losses because but if to build it at least 5 kW version then it will weight few tons minimum because rotor magnet without flux returning circuit must to be colossal (when compared with normal ironless (air-gap) motor.
You can build extreme efficient "normal" motor as well - you just use larger airgap and the best low-loss magnetic materials - all calculated for no load run - you will get efficent near 99% ...
but !!! even smallest load what exceed calculated value will cause cruel disappointment - precipitous downfall of efficiency, very cheesy performance ...
In principle you can build your own version of Newman´s or Keppe motors - take any ironless (airgap) motor and remove flux returning rings.”

I am sure Khabe knows his stuff and is correct about making a extremely efficient motor from a “ironless (airgap) motor “ , I am not an electrical engineer so I will have to take his word. However as I stated before there are versions of the Keppe Motor capable of producing more energy than is inputted. It can and does handle load very well which sets it apart from others.  The Keppe motor’s I saw sounded like a small single motor propeller airplane taking off, I have the video to prove it. 

Also one very important fact is that the Keppe Motor has both torque and can produce very high RPM's which makes it much more practical than other motors such a the Newman Machine. In addition the Keppe motor runs completely cold, you do not need a cooling fan to keep it from burning out. In addition there is very little wear & tear on the motors parts, technically speaking one could run a properly constructed Keppe Motor for years & non stop.

Thanks,

Will
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: khabe on December 03, 2008, 11:10:00 PM
OK,
I want to see it - Keppe motor on airplane, even model airplane, it does not matter for me ...there is propeller on the shaft of Keppe ... and it takes off.
Even if it flyes using batteries like wellknown RC model motors - even if it is not producing more energy than is inputted - just takes off and flyes - I will pay $100 to OU account as donation.
If its able to take off and fly without batteries - when seen video -  $1000 comes forthrightly from me.
The only thing - it must to be publiced and proofed video.

faithfully,
khabe

"... the Keppe motor runs completely cold ..."
No heat without work  ;)

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: Isdaudio on December 04, 2008, 02:35:22 AM
OK,
I want to see it - Keppe motor on airplane, even model airplane, it does not matter for me ...there is propeller on the shaft of Keppe ... and it takes off.
Even if it flyes using batteries like wellknown RC model motors - even if it is not producing more energy than is inputted - just takes off and flyes - I will pay $100 to OU account as donation.
If its able to take off and fly without batteries - when seen video -  $1000 comes forthrightly from me.
The only thing - it must to be publiced and proofed video.

faithfully,
khabe

"... the Keppe motor runs completely cold ..."
No heat without work  ;)




Khabe,

I did not say that there is a ver of the Keppe Motor that is attached to a plane. What I said was.."The Keppe motor’s I saw sounded like a small single motor propeller airplane taking off, I have the video to prove it". I am not a aeronautical engineer but the first motor I saw was so powerful, especially for a early prototype that it reminded me of a propeller prop plane taking off. I will upload the vid into you tube shortly, its is a rather long video with Caesar explaining the Keppe Motor's principles in Protégées. However you will see & hear one of the first vers of the motor running very fast & loud then the rectifier burns out.

"... the Keppe motor runs completely cold ..."
"No heat without work"

Khabe, I have physically touched a number of Keppe's Motor's after lengthily demonstrations in San Diego & in Sao Paulo Brazil and there was no heat detected by my hand. I am sure if a proper instrument was used one could detect an increase of heat but I am only speculating about this and it would not surprise me if the temp increase was too little to measure. This can be easily tested by anyone who wishes to build this motor, including folks in this forum. Also it is very important to read the book The New Physics Derived from A Disinverted Metaphysics” By Norberto R Keppe, Ph.D- 156 pages & The ABCs of the New Physics- 163 pages. http://www.analyticaltrilogy.com/book.html

$1000.00 would be a very generous donation and can be made to http://www.stop.org.br/site/catalogo/index.php?_newidioma=en so anyone who is ambitious enough to take Khabe up on his offer is doing a very good deed. If you need help let me know or contact STOP USA at the link. I might just take you up on this offer Khabe but for know I have my plate full so its going to take me a few months if not a year to get to this if I decide.

Another point I would like to make is the integrity of the Scientists involved with the development of the Keppe Motor is of the highest I have ever seen.  60 years of research & development went into the science that the Keppe Motor is based on. You might not agree with the principles and that understandable, this is a ground breaking new science and challenges the main stream of our most prestigious universities. However I challenge anyone to disprove the functioning of the Keppe Motor, you will fail and it will change your life.  More importantly this group of scientists are not trying to get rich from this nor are they doing this for their own gain solely. They are trying to help all of humanity so help them help us and build your own Keppe Motor, improve it, share it and lets together put a stop to the waste of our natural resources.

Ok here is the vid, pay attention to the sound of the motor, very impresive. Of course this proves nothing but like I said build your own and find out for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5_45ZMCsQ (vid might still be processing, check back in a few)

Peace,

Will

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5_45ZMCsQ
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: khabe on December 04, 2008, 08:51:42 AM
I do not give any cent for development,
I promised donate OU site when Keppe motor is(!) able to fly.
I can read  from stop.org not english version:
Main energy source comes from scalar ... from essential ... oh dear!
Fractional energy comes from battery ...
 400g rotor(!) makes 3500 RPM when sprndinf 15W
 250g rotor(!) makes 4500 RPM. ...
torque 5 times better than "normal" motor ...
performamce 20 times better than ordinary motor ... ::)

Thats declared  ::)

Regards,
khabe
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: chessnyt on December 04, 2008, 10:29:40 AM
Hello everyone,

I have viewed all of the videos presented here and I am sad to say that what is being presented is a very cleverly devised promotion of another inventor’s work.  The air-core stator designs are not new and the switching technique is one in which I am very familiar with.  Does this mean I am saying that they are indeed mine?  No they most certainly are not.
 
In the midst of an energy and economic crisis of epic proportions, it is with great disappointment for me to see people trying to take advantage of a vulnerable public desperately seeking out new more affordable and cleaner energy solutions.
 
Is the Keppe book “The New Physics” being given out for free?  No it is not.  Obviously Dr. Keppe is trying to promote his book as are the editors of this book as well.  The Keppe Motor is merely a ploy to generate interest in his books.  Books he intends to make a great deal of profit off of.
 
What does one of the real inventors think of “The Keppe Motor”?  I will allow him to speak for himself. 
 
Below is John Bedini's response to this “new” motor in a letter to Rick Friedrich:

“Rick,

Here is my response to the copy Window motor.

It would be nice if you would give credit where it is due. As I and Ron Cole are the real inventor's of this motor, it's called the window motor as I have shown for many years. If you think not, just type Window Motor into Google under Bedini Window Motor. Why don't you show the switching circuit or explain it? Also it could only be MY circuits that capture this energy for recovery into the second or third battery. The second switching circuit could only be the bi-polar switcher circuit on the internet. Let's get real, it's not a
good deal to take others work and call it your own!!!!!

The only other motor is Joe Newman's energy machine which uses contact switching which you do not have, so the only other way to capture Radiant or Scalar energy is the Bedini SG circuit, why because you can stop it without any current input or heating. The funny thing is everybody knows who put all the diagrams on the internet, my patents clearly show the switching in the Mono Pole motor and all the documentation on the internet surely shows no capacitor but a diode or bridge collecting the excess energy.

This is what is wrong with humanity as to why you are very limited in what can be done with your re-invented machine, the world will know the truth some day. If you find you are in disagreement with what I have said here it can be worked out as to who the real inventor's are. It really burns my ass what great men of science do with others work. You can not call this your motor at all, and it is plain theft of my circuits and motor which are protected in my patents. I would have wished we could have started on a better foot, post your circuit's and rotor magnet arrangement let's see!!!!!!!!! It's been on my internet pages forever.

John Bedini

Here is the link to the website:
http://www.stop.org.br/site/catalogo/materias.php?idmateria=808”

As you can see from the above letter, John is clearly upset with this so-called “new” motor and rightfully so.
   
Sincerely disappointed,

Joe
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: khabe on December 04, 2008, 02:01:42 PM
"    ...You can not call this your motor at all ...    "

***   No-one can!   ***
This is Right Hand Rule http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html
This is used in hundred of different types of electric machines around the world.
It does not matter you do it axial or radial, used mechanical or electronic commutator,
used one, two, three or what ever number of phases ... used what ever even number of rotor poles,
Used what ever design - outer or inner runner ... spinning armature or rotor ... maden professionally, well done .. or built like fumbler - IT DOES NOT MATTER!
Used full cycle of  waveform (push-pull) or just one side of ... it does not matter!
It does not matter you left flux returning parts from magnetic circuit - it does not matter you did it knowingly or you did it because poor school.

regards,
khabe

It does not matter we rename things we dont understand about as fusion ... scalar ... essential ... 
Bling-bling show off with sonorous therms and names give us nothing :'(

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: Isdaudio on December 04, 2008, 06:25:40 PM
Rick & Joe,

I understand why Joe is upset but please before passing judgment on the Keppe Motor and the people of STOP wait until you see the manual and do your research into the group. These people I know very well and they are NOT trying to get rich or hurt anyone, this you would see for your self if you would be willing to contact them and find out for yourself what they are about. I cannot speak for them but I am sure they would be very please to hear from you and would love to hear your concerns.

The people who constructed the Keppe Motor team are not a fly by night outfit they have been well established in the medical community for over 50 years. Please look into this and find out for yourself what they stand for, they have nothing to hide and are very welcoming people.

Who ever reported my video to the youtube staff is in error (not saying it was anyone here). You do not know exactly how The Keppe Motor works and have no right to claim that my vid was in violation of your rights until you can present a proper argument. Since you do not have the full information on the Keppe Motor and that video does not show the inner workings of the Keppe Motor, it does not violate anyones rights whatsoever. However I will keep it unpublished for now until we can work this out, I do not want to disrespect anyone, I have good intentions with this matter and I am more than willing to help resolve this.

Is it possible that all of us here can work together to find out what is going on between the 2 Motors? Please lets get to the bottom of this in a clam and intelligent manner, there is allot at stake here for everyone on the planet.

I am way over my head with the technical discussions going on here so I am going to contact The Keppe Motor people and let them know of our discussions here. Then we all can have a civil discussion about Joe's motor & The Keppe Motor. Please understand that no one is try to steal anything and this can be worked out if the parties involved are willing.

Please could you re-post the link to Joe's motor, the link posted is for The Keppe Motor.

**update** I was sent this link by a member of STOP the Destruction of the World in regards to the Bedini & Keppe Motors. the link to this form was sent to Ceser Soos co-inventer of the Keppe Motor for his review.

http://keppemotor.wordpress.com/

Sincerely,

Will



Difference between Keppe Motor and Bedini
November 20, 2008 by Rich Jones
Lot of questions about this, and so we wanted to just clear it up for you here.

Right off the bat, let’s be clear that the Bedini Motor is a great invention, and our hats go off to John Bedini for his excellent work, and for making the technology so accessible. There are some distinct differences, though, and so let’s clear that up once and for all.

First, the Bedini Motor works mostly as a generator; the Keppe Motor is a motor. What we mean by this is a device that transforms electrical energy (watts) into mechanical energy (torque or “force” and rotation). Although Bedini has a rotor with magnets, it is used mostly to generate pulses in order to charge batteries. In other words, Bedini does not extract mechanical energy from the system, which means it does not produce torque so it cannot efficiently power the blades of a fan, for example. The Keppe Motor can drive a fan, and very efficiently – using up to 90% less energy than a common electrical motor.

Our system generate some electrical energy to charge a battery or a capacitor as the Bedini Motor does, which shows that there is extra energy in the system that is not being used. We are working now to develop motors that do use all this energy, and hope to have prototypes to do this in the very near future.

Second, the Bedini Motor is a mono-polar machine (meaning it uses only one pole of the magnet, north OR south), while the Keppe Motor is a bi-polar machine (meaning we use both poles, north AND south).

Hope that clears things up a little. There’s more to come, including some very exciting news hopefully in the next week or so. Keep checking in, or better yet, set your Google alerts to Keppe Motor to keep up with all the latest.


Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: stanis on December 05, 2008, 07:39:27 AM
http://www.keppemotor.com/splash.php
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: smithandwes on December 05, 2008, 02:28:35 PM
Anyone bought the manual?  Its now available at http://www.keppemotor.com/store.php
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: Goat on December 05, 2008, 02:57:29 PM
@All

I decided to take the risk and bought the manual a couple of hours ago and am very disappointed  >:(

It's a toy version of the Newman motor  ::)

Ah well, nothing ventured nothing gained, hopefully the real motor isn't a window type motor ;D I'm always willing to forgive and forget!

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: smithandwes on December 05, 2008, 03:19:17 PM
does this mean that the Newman motor is also this efficient......i don't care if it is a copy or similar to another machine...if it saves 95% energy then this is still a good thing?

where do i get details on the Newman motor(or Keppe Motor for that matter).

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: Goat on December 05, 2008, 03:27:03 PM
Hi smithandwes

The Keppe motor manual describes it as a "sample" motor so it's not the real deal as it uses an inefficient switching setup, I can't say much more about it because of the "Terms of use" but I doubt it's 95% efficient ::)

As far as the Newman motor just Google it, it's all over the Internet and there's also a section on this forum under Newman Machines. ;)



Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: khabe on December 06, 2008, 09:14:57 AM
http://bearspace.baylor.edu/Walter_Wilcox/www/courses/phy2435/chap29xxb.pdf
http://courses.ece.uiuc.edu/ece110/brunet/lectures/col6.pdf
http://amasci.com/freenrg/fnrg.html
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: chessnyt on December 07, 2008, 10:43:48 PM
Hello everyone,

Just as I thought, the motor in reality is the work of another inventor.  My thanks goes out to Paul for buying the motor manual and checking out the technical information on it.  Great job Paul!  Now more people from this site do not need to buy it or their falsely represented book that they are peddling.

This is yet another example of just how far some people are willing to go to try to make a profit by exploiting the work of other inventors claiming it is their original discovery.
 
As for the “Bling-bling show off with sonorous therms” statement from Khabe, I can assure you I do not wear any “bling-bling” or even listen to hip-hop.  As for “sonorous therms”, I do not even know what you were trying to say there.  Fancy British thermal units? (I’m Irish by-the-way)

As for Will, the Bedini/Cole Window Motor is indeed bipolar as it has a rotor comprised of both North and South facing permanent magnet poles.  I am really not surprised that your technical staff could not provide you with the correct information here as well being they can’t produce an original motor of their own.

I am just an honest working man who still makes a living designing and building original circuitry for a living thus not needing to steal other people’s designs and call them my own just to sell phony books and manuals.  I pride myself on this fact.

Character does matter, Khabe.  So does honesty.  If you feel comfortable defending dishonest men who blatantly take credit for other people’s hard work, then maybe you should buy ten copies of their book to show your support.

Sincerely,

Joe   
 
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: khabe on December 07, 2008, 11:50:30 PM
Let it be. Let they fight between for "all rights" of this machine ;)
Hereby many interesting readings, when braused extending everywhere then even for all week 8)
It does not matter you are believer or sceptic - educative anyway.
http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm
Myself Im fervent_hope_sceptic. I hope that something must to be ... but I dont like much stupidity ... and I hate fraud.
Newman´s, Keppe... etc ... machines are interesting stuff, very interesting things but unfortunately nothing more, at any rate not OU.
Have a nice readings,
khabe
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: smithandwes on December 08, 2008, 04:24:17 AM
Anyone know where i can get the plans/description of the newman motor.  Some people say you only need one coil others say 2.  Some people are using a commutator and others a reed switch.

http://www.overunity.com/newman2 is not very useful?

A real pity about the Keppe Motor..i was hoping for something useful to build?
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: khabe on December 08, 2008, 04:47:22 PM
Seems you want to be come a rich but dont want to work ::)
is it too hard to go to -> Forum -> Newman machines -> http://www.overunity.com/index.php?board=4.0   ???
If you really want to konw about - you have to read it all.
All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
regards,
khabe
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: stanis on December 22, 2008, 08:29:24 PM
http://www.keppemotor.com/partslist.php
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: appliedbiophysics on December 27, 2008, 03:45:52 AM
The Keppe Motor DIY manual [Grade D-] is a waste of money. The worst YouTube video is better than this. Shame on them... The STOP organization chants save the world mantra and like most inventors that say they want to save the world but do not share the information, some like Paul Pantone: an angel gave the knowledge to him. E-mail me for a copy of the New Keppe Motor PDF manual.

I think Joseph Newman is really amazed how this Norberto Keppe has the intellectual dishonesty to not give credit due to the sources of the people who have similar interests and ideas. Keppe motor is a Copy of the Newman Motor.

The crackpot humanist psyco-shrink babbel talk, some people suck this up like a sponge. Follow the government grant money.

Ideas are everywhere but it takes actions and effort to make anything happen. The time we have is very short in this life. Saving a condemned   world is hardly an inspiration for an idea.

oregonherbal@yahoo.com
http://sites.google.com/site/appliedbiophysicsresearch/welcome

From the PDF Keppe Motor Manual:

The Keppe Motor’s effect on a candle flame:
Observe the movement of a candle flame inside a longneck glass container that pro-
tects it from the wind approximately 1 meter from a Keppe Motor working at low speed.  (To
achieve low speeds use low voltage batteries).  Stop and start the motor several times and
see how the candle flame moves in accordance with the motor’s movement, even though
the flame is protected.

The Influence of one Keppe Motor on another Keppe Motor
at distance:
If you put two Keppe Motors (whether identical or not) side by side and have one motor
functioning, the other will automatically begin to spin at a speed that corresponds to one of
the “harmonic resonances” of the first one, even though no external power source is in use
on it at all.
If this phenomenon does not occur immediately, it is because the speed of the first mo-
tor is too fast. Use your hand to help spin the second motor until you notice it spinning by
itself. At a certain speed it will work by itself without significantly affecting the speed of the
first one.
This experiment suggests that many Keppe Motors functioning together will create a
resonant energetic field within which each one benefits from the other, increasing each
one’s efficiency even more.

Feeding a Keppe Motor with another Keppe Motor:
When we connect two Keppe Motors, we can demonstrate that both motors working in
tandem will consume less energy than if they were working separately. This means that the
Keppe Motor is capturing energy from space. For example, when there is a series of Keppe
Motors connected by wires, the next in line will always need less energy than the previous
ones to generate the same performance.
To illustrate this, the Keppe Motor development team conducted the following experi-
ment:
We developed two similar Keppe Motors—the first one with a thicker wired coil. We
rectified the current generated by the magnet of the first motor and sent it to a 10,000 µF
70 Volt capacitor, which in turn served as a power source for the second motor.
In measuring the consumption of the motors, we verified that working together we could
produce the same work (axis speed) at less energy consumption (1.5W) than if they oper-
ated separately (2.2W). This indicates that the energy needed to make the motors work
does not come only from the battery.
Below find the data for the experiment:
Separate Motors:
Motor 1: spinning at 3,000 rpm consumed 1.5W
Motor 2: spinning at 1,000 rpm consumed 0.7W
Connecting Motor 2 to Motor 1 through a bridge rectifier and a capacitor, we found:
Motor 1 spinning at 3,000 rpm
 and
Motor 2 spinning at 1,000 rpm
in operation together consumed only 1.5W
In other words, rather than the 2.2W of consumption we might expect (adding 1.5 W
and 0.7W together), the consumption by the battery stayed at 1.5W even with Motor 2
connected!
Conclusion:  There was no extra electrical energy needed to move the second motor.
So where did the energy come from to move it? Not from the battery, but from the second
component of space energy—the returning or “complementation” component of the Essen-
tial Energy. This is exactly what is predicted in Keppe’s New Physics.
Title: Therapeutic Applications of the Keppe Motor
Post by: appliedbiophysics on December 27, 2008, 03:54:05 AM
From the Keppe Motor Manual:

Since the Keppe Motor uses both directions of the Essential Energy field (action and com-
plementation), it works more in accordance with the energy of life. Its emanations, therefore,
tend to influence living organisms more positively, which brings notable physical benefits.
For example, some people have reported seeing a delicate gaseous plasma or “white
smoke” emanating from the Keppe Motor under certain conditions.  This is evidence that the
motor activates fields of subtle energy that could have the potential to affect physical elements
and therefore be used for therapeutic purposes.
Considering this possibility, the Keppe Motor development team developed a motor that
works like a DNA molecule. We call it the DNA Keppe Motor.  This motor was designed with
Neodymium permanent magnets arranged in such a way that when the rotor spun at the same
frequency as a healthy cell, the magnetic fields simulated the spiral strands of the DNA, i.e.,
one strand went up while the other went down.
It is known that both the North and South poles of a permanent magnet exert physical in-
fluence on blood vessels and other body cells. The magnetic North pole dilates blood vessels
while the magnetic South pole contracts them. Spinning a magnet around its axis causes a shift
between physical dilation and contraction on the cells exposed to this field.
This balance of North-South magnetic force plus the scalar field formed by the Keppe Motor
in resonance at a proper frequency forces unhealthy body cells to resonate with the motor, thus
capturing Essential Energy to recover their health.
In Keppe’s New Physics, resonance and entropy are two related ideas in the sense
that the loss of resonance leads to entropy. In resonance with Essential Energy, living bod-
ies are healthy because their cells are organized and receive Essential Energy, while in
entropy the cells are disorganized and there is no efficiency in capturing Essential Energy.
We call this illness.
In Keppe’s Analytical Trilogy, a physical disease is a form of rigidity in some part of the body.
This is primarily a psychological factor that emerges when a person censors, or blocks from
view, his errors. This attitude blocks the Essential Energy and prevents the body from fully re-
ceiving it.
As the Keppe Motor works with this Essential Energy, in principle, it can help to re-
duce stress.
In fact, evidence shows that brief exposure to the DNA Keppe Motor can cause reduc-
tions, and in some cases even completely eliminates pain and strains in people who used
it therapeutically.
As of November 2008, there is evidence to support the therapeutic use of the Keppe Motor
to treat sinusitis, migraines and general aches and pains, and even as a painkiller.
If you are interested in the DNA Keppe Motor, you can order it through our website at
www.keppemotor.com.

Figure A4 shows the typical wave pattern associated with the Pulsed Direct Current
that supplies the Keppe Motor. Note that the back peaks (they show up below the zero
line) are numerous, and strong—frequently twenty times larger than the positive peaks.
These are the peaks of complementary Essential Energy that show that we can, in prin-
ciple, capture more energy than we input into the system. 
It’s important to point out that despite displaying positive and negative peaks like
the Alternating Current pattern
does, in this Figure the nega-
tive peaks do not refer to the
alternating of magnet poles but
to the returning complemen-
tation of Essential Energy re-
sponding to the DC stimulus—
and this means a completely
different thing! 0
Fig. A4

Fig. A5
Observation:There are other motors that work with DC pulses through PWM
circuits, which are used to limit the amount of current supplied to the motor. However,
the wave forms displayed by these circuits do
not show the complementary Essential Ener-
gy component, which makes the principles by
which they work with power very different from
the Keppe Motor. 
 Figure A5 shows the supply waveform
of a PWM circuit. We can observe curved
positive lines and straight zero lines, with no
back peaks.

http://sites.google.com/site/appliedbiophysicsresearch/welcome
Title: What is Keppe’s Disinverted Physics = Fantasy Island Utopia for Shrinks
Post by: appliedbiophysics on December 27, 2008, 04:18:11 AM

Norberto Keppe, W. Reich and James DeMeo all have similar psyco-babble 'Shrinknomics'  giving energy eccentric names makes them proud and puffed up. Like the Orgasm-Generator oh.... Orgone Energy-Generator, yeah whatever. Reich seems to have a pedophile/feminist agenda.



8 Keppe Motor Manual - Working Principles

 
The New Physics Derived from a Disinverted Metaphysics is the result of more than fifty
years of research conducted by the author in the field of psycho-socio-pathology (Analyti-
cal Trilogy or Integral Psychoanalysis). Perhaps it seems incompatible that hard scientific
proposals could come from psychology and even philosophy, but it is precisely Keppe’s
work in these fields that has enabled him to elaborate his revolutionary scientific view.
Keppe’s resume is impressive. He obtained his degree in psychoanalysis in Vienna,
Austria, and founded the largest clinic of psychosomatic medicine in Latin America at the
São Paulo Hospital das Clínicas back in the 1960s. This clinic was connected to the Uni-
versity of São Paulo’s Medical School, where Keppe was a professor for ten years. After
extensive successful treatment of serious diseases at the Hospital using his unique form of
psychotherapy, Keppe was invited to Vienna to work with Viktor Frankl and Knut Baumgar-
ten. When he returned to Brazil he continued his extensive research in deep psychology.
His pivotal breakthrough came in 1977 with his discovery of Inversion. Writing in the
foreword to Keppe’s book, Glorification, Dr. Joseph Ghougassian (a former U.S. Ambas-

9
Keppe Motor Manual - Working Principles
sador to Qatar) called Inversion a “genuine contribution to the intellectual treasures of
civilization.” Today, many professionals in the field consider it the greatest discovery in
psychopathology since Freud’s elaboration of the “unconscious.”
With this discovery, Keppe was able to determine that the origin of neurosis came from
the human tendency to see the world upside down. In his extensive clinical practice, Keppe
noticed that all of the human being’s problems stem from this common source: we see bad
things as good for us and good things as bad. We’ve come to identify love with suffering,
consciousness with restriction, work with sacrifice, honesty and kindness with vulnerability
or even naiveté, speaking the truth with aggression, etc.
Because of inversion, man begins to see the laws of nature as inconvenient and limit-
ing for his own accomplishments and he believes that the perceptions of his own errors are
harmful. Through Inversion the human being sees his own consciousness (inner life) as the
enemy, and this causes him to invert his values (and the values of society) as well as his
knowledge of reality.
From this point on, he begins to “recreate” the laws of science, and all the laws, accord-
ing to his megalomaniac imagination and not according to reality, destroying Earth’s Para-
dise in which he dwells and creating a huge delay for his progress and that of the entire
civilization (to learn more about Norberto Keppe’s developments in psychopathology and
psychotherapy see www.analyticaltrilogy.org or any of his books).
Even though this Inversion is something artificial, pathological and totally foreign to our
essential human structure, it has still become part of our human psychogenetics and can
be evidenced in all of our civilizations through the ages.
We see Inversion in everything from the simplest personal attitudes and behaviors (we
think aggression and arrogance demonstrate power while humility is weak, that making
money without working is the ideal, that we can do almost anything as long as we don’t get
caught), right up to the dominant laws and social structures (we’ve created legal systems
that favor the rich over the poor, developed a medical orientation that prescribes drugs and
surgery rather than addressing the root of the problem, put in place an economic system
that puts profit above human life and the environment).
And this Inversion also shows up strongly in the field that is particularly relevant to our
Keppe Motor discussion: science. 
The big challenge of Inversion is that it is an unconscious attitude, and that’s why it took
a psychoanalyst to discover it. What’s more, if we apply an understanding of Inversion to
the greatest thinkers in human history, we’ll find that it has caused a confounding mix of
correct perceptions with unconscious inversions, resulting in the confusion we see in soci-
ety today.
One of these great historical figures was the influential Greek philosopher Aristotle, the
founder of the sciences—especially Physics, the science that studies nature. Aristotle built
his study of Physics on Metaphysics, which is the most important science since its objective
is to study the Being and transcendence.
However, as he was laying out the principles of Metaphysics that would serve as the
basis for all science, he committed some fundamental inversions. As a result, Physics be-
came inverted as well. What’s unfortunate is that these inversions remained unperceived
by any of the great scientific geniuses in history, including Descartes, Galileo, Newton,
Leibniz, Maxwell, Planck, Einstein and the Quantum physicists of the twentieth century
who all followed unquestioningly. (To learn more about Aristotle’s inversions in Metaphys-
ics, read Metaphysics I: Liberation of the Being by Norberto Keppe).

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: Isdaudio on January 24, 2009, 03:29:17 PM
http://keppemotor.wordpress.com/


Difference Between Keppe Motor and Newman
December 26, 2008 by Rich Jones

We’ve had some questions about the comparison of the Keppe Motor and Bedini (see this blog post), and now another question from another reader:

“And how does your engine compare to this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newman_(inventor)

Well, there are important things to say in regards to your question. First of all, all motors are composed essentially of a rotor and a stator. So there are many motors that may “look” the same as the Keppe Motor, but the principle of the Keppe Motor is markedly different.

According to the Wikipedia page mentioned above: “Newman makes statements contradicting mainstream science where he assumes electric field potential (voltage) applied to a material (such as copper) will cause that material to produce magnetic flux.” We can say, in other words, that Newman believes that the magnetic flux derives from matter.
Keppe doesn’t believe that. Keppe states that all matter comes from Essential Energy, as does all electro-magnetic energy as well. Energy doesn’t come from matter; matter comes from Energy, and it is this fundamental difference in theory that makes the Keppe Motor different from Newman’s.

For Newman to deliver torgue, he has to create a more powerful stator (material). So his motor is enormous, far too impractical for market purposes. For a Keppe Motor to develop torque, we need to establish an efficient and powerful field of resonance that can effectively capture the Essential Energy from space. The power in a Keppe Motor doesn’t come from the material; it comes from the resonance the motor creates with the Essential Energy field, allowing it to capture this Energy from space. This means the specific design of the motor is important.

Although Newman does defy the theories of classical physics in some respects, his motor doesn’t work at all like the Keppe Motor, even though it looks similar in design. The Keppe Motor and Newman’s motor have different “souls” so to speak.

The Keppe Motor theory proposes that matter works like an antenna, capturing energy from space. The Keppe Motor coil works in natural resonance with this energy of space. Our motor, then, is developed in consideration of the concept of scalar resonance - quite a different process to Newman. For Newman, the number of turns of the wire in the coil is important to transform voltage into torgue; for Keppe, this is not important at all. Keppe Motors can be very small and efficient and drive a fan, for example, at a very fast speed.

For Keppe, every machine that generates power has its specific resonance, depending on the relationships between its wire gauge, the number of times the coil is wound, the number of coils for the size of the rotor, the number of pulses used, whether it is a mechanical, magnetic or optical commutator that is used, etc. (Just an aside, in Keppe Motors, mechanical commutators are restrictive for generating pulses and harnessing scalar energy). We are working to develop a better relationship between speed, torque and consumption of energy so that we create a better vortex for capturing the Essential Energy from space; Newman is creating huge stators with enormous mass and weight with miles and miles of copper wire to generate torque. See the difference in theory?

Our unique technology can be applied to small devices for practical purposes (i.e., machines with torque and speed in marketable levels). And we are constantly developing to apply the technology to bigger and bigger devices.

Hope that clears it up a little.
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 25, 2009, 04:00:56 PM
http://keppemotor.wordpress.com/


Difference Between Keppe Motor and Newman
December 26, 2008 by Rich Jones

We’ve had some questions about the comparison of the Keppe Motor and Bedini (see this blog post), and now another question from another reader:

“And how does your engine compare to this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newman_(inventor)

Well, there are important things to say in regards to your question. First of all, all motors are composed essentially of a rotor and a stator. So there are many motors that may “look” the same as the Keppe Motor, but the principle of the Keppe Motor is markedly different.

According to the Wikipedia page mentioned above: “Newman makes statements contradicting mainstream science where he assumes electric field potential (voltage) applied to a material (such as copper) will cause that material to produce magnetic flux.” We can say, in other words, that Newman believes that the magnetic flux derives from matter.
Keppe doesn’t believe that. Keppe states that all matter comes from Essential Energy, as does all electro-magnetic energy as well. Energy doesn’t come from matter; matter comes from Energy, and it is this fundamental difference in theory that makes the Keppe Motor different from Newman’s.

For Newman to deliver torgue, he has to create a more powerful stator (material). So his motor is enormous, far too impractical for market purposes. For a Keppe Motor to develop torque, we need to establish an efficient and powerful field of resonance that can effectively capture the Essential Energy from space. The power in a Keppe Motor doesn’t come from the material; it comes from the resonance the motor creates with the Essential Energy field, allowing it to capture this Energy from space. This means the specific design of the motor is important.

Although Newman does defy the theories of classical physics in some respects, his motor doesn’t work at all like the Keppe Motor, even though it looks similar in design. The Keppe Motor and Newman’s motor have different “souls” so to speak.

The Keppe Motor theory proposes that matter works like an antenna, capturing energy from space. The Keppe Motor coil works in natural resonance with this energy of space. Our motor, then, is developed in consideration of the concept of scalar resonance - quite a different process to Newman. For Newman, the number of turns of the wire in the coil is important to transform voltage into torgue; for Keppe, this is not important at all. Keppe Motors can be very small and efficient and drive a fan, for example, at a very fast speed.

For Keppe, every machine that generates power has its specific resonance, depending on the relationships between its wire gauge, the number of times the coil is wound, the number of coils for the size of the rotor, the number of pulses used, whether it is a mechanical, magnetic or optical commutator that is used, etc. (Just an aside, in Keppe Motors, mechanical commutators are restrictive for generating pulses and harnessing scalar energy). We are working to develop a better relationship between speed, torque and consumption of energy so that we create a better vortex for capturing the Essential Energy from space; Newman is creating huge stators with enormous mass and weight with miles and miles of copper wire to generate torque. See the difference in theory?

Our unique technology can be applied to small devices for practical purposes (i.e., machines with torque and speed in marketable levels). And we are constantly developing to apply the technology to bigger and bigger devices.

Hope that clears it up a little.


HI,

Thanks for your post.  I am building a Keppe motor right now.  I see the marked difference between the Keppe motor, Bedini motors, Newman motor, etc., I don't know why others can't.  Keppe simply points out what mainstream science is just now coming to realize ... the void of space is NOT a void,  the term 'Zero Point Energy' is now a real term in science, resonance is key to sensing and utilizing this energy, and so much more. 

I will wind my transformer windings today (likely).  Did you notice I said "transformer windings" not "stator winding.  The Keppe manual clearly refers to the windings as "primary" and "secondary" transformer windings.  This language is very important.

Peace,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 25, 2009, 06:32:27 PM
HI,

Thanks for your post.  I am building a Keppe motor right now.  I see the marked difference between the Keppe motor, Bedini motors, Newman motor, etc., I don't know why others can't.  Keppe simply points out what mainstream science is just now coming to realize ... the void of space is NOT a void,  the term 'Zero Point Energy' is now a real term in science, resonance is key to sensing and utilizing this energy, and so much more. 

I will wind my transformer windings today (likely).  Did you notice I said "transformer windings" not "stator winding.  The Keppe manual clearly refers to the windings as "primary" and "secondary" transformer windings.  This language is very important.

Peace,

Greg

Hi all,

Once I decided to build a Keppe motor per the Keppe Motor Manual I realized I dreaded building the transformer support and also winding the wire.  First I selected a fabrication method for the plastic  transformer support.  I decided to just cut up a bunch of pieces and glue them together.  Since there's no way I could wind this thing without losing count of the # of turns, I built a winding fixture with a counter on it.  The transformer support is made of 1/8" thick white ABS sheet.  It is assembled using a hot glue gun and Super Glue.  I made an assembly mandrel to facilitate assembly of the plastic pieces.

I can't post any complete step-by-step instructions because of the disclosure statement I signed upon buying the manual.  The only reason I justify posting these construction details is that the manual only points to a picture of a plastic transformer support but gives no source for it.  So to ease any frustration for any other Keppe Motor replicators that bought the manual I have presented one way to make it from scratch.

Here are some pictures of that effort.

#1 is the support center assembled on a mandrel.  Pieces were held in place with rubber bands.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe1.jpg
#2 is an end "C" flange and center getting ready for assembly
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe2.jpg
#3 is one end "C" flange attached to center on assembly mandrel
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe3.jpg
#4 is both end "C" flanges attached to the center
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe4.jpg
#5 is the complete main support.  "C" flanges are closed with a short piece between the "C" and a doubler 
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe5.jpg
#6 is the fully completed transformer support with primary and secondary partitions.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe6.jpg
#7 is the winding fixture showing the counter and arm on the winding mandrel and crank
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe7.jpg
#8 shows the finished transformer support on the winding fixture and wire spool ready for winding wire
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe8.jpg

Peace,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 26, 2009, 02:33:44 AM
Hi all,

... just a few more pictures showing the Keppe Motor transformer winding operation:

#9 show the primary winding underway.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe9.jpg
#10 shows the secondary winding underway
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe10.jpg
#11 shows the finished support plus both transformer windings finished.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe11.jpg

It took me about 4 hours to make the winding/counting fixture and only 7 - 10 minutes to wind 500 turns + 500 turns = (1000 turns).  I think my investment in the winding fixture was worthwhile -  I didn't lose count and besides I still have the fixture.

Peace,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on March 26, 2009, 05:14:46 AM
I was hearing some kind of resonating sounds and it brought me here ;D

Looks 8) interesting and guess who I find here ::)

Great job as usual Greg ;) thanks for all the pics!

I'll keep an eye on this.

Luc
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: Isdaudio on March 26, 2009, 04:10:16 PM
Thanks for the pics Greg, nice work!!! I am also building a Keppe Motor, I will be sure to share my progress with you guys here. I do have the one for sale up and running and it works great. Has anybody tried to influence the motor with a large magnet? I held a huge round earth magnet near the running motor and it actually speeds up a great deal. You have to find the "sweet spot" but I doubled and even tripled my rpms.

Best,

Will
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 26, 2009, 04:37:56 PM
I was hearing some kind of resonating sounds and it brought me here ;D

Looks 8) interesting and guess who I find here ::)

Great job as usual Greg ;) thanks for all the pics!

I'll keep an eye on this.

Luc

Hi Luc !

Yes ... I could not help myself.  There's something different about this motor ... and I can't really put my finger on it other than there are some commonalities with Bedini & Newman but also differences in both design and theory. 

I built the SGM years ago and also a Newman motor but my tests didn't show OU or even close.  Talking with John Bedini personally on the phone back then his assistance was cryptic "... so you see what's happening? ... what's that mean to you? ...". etc.  And you know how Newman interchanges units of power when trying to explain his technology ... torque is power, etc.

Nice to hear from you,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on March 26, 2009, 05:42:34 PM
Hi Luc !

Yes ... I could not help myself.  There's something different about this motor ... and I can't really put my finger on it other than there are some commonalities with Bedini & Newman but also differences in both design and theory. 

I built the SGM years ago and also a Newman motor but my tests didn't show OU or even close.  Talking with John Bedini personally on the phone back then his assistance was cryptic "... so you see what's happening? ... what's that mean to you? ...". etc.  And you know how Newman interchanges units of power when trying to explain his technology ... torque is power, etc.

Nice to hear from you,

Greg

Hi Greg,

exactly a year ago I built a motor using 2 identical Microwave Oven Transformer Secondaries (removed from cores) stacked on top of each other with just enough space in between them for some 1/8" Bronze bushing for a shaft with 2 ceramic magnets 1 7/8" x 7/8" x 3/8" mounted on it. The magnets (in North South) have the shaft sandwiched between them in the center of the 7/8" dimension. The motor turned well and seemed to used Micro amps only.

Maybe I'll pull it off the shelve and make a new commutator for it and measure it with the better meters I have to see what it really does.

Anyways, great to see you looking into this, replicating and giving it your best as usual ;)

Looking forward in your test results.

Luc
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 26, 2009, 10:51:26 PM
Hi Greg,

exactly a year ago I built a motor using 2 identical Microwave Oven Transformer Secondaries (removed from cores) stacked on top of each other with just enough space in between them for some 1/8" Bronze bushing for a shaft with 2 ceramic magnets 1 7/8" x 7/8" x 3/8" mounted on it. The magnets (in North South) have the shaft sandwiched between them in the center of the 7/8" dimension. The motor turned well and seemed to used Micro amps only.

Maybe I'll pull it off the shelve and make a new commutator for it and measure it with the better meters I have to see what it really does.

Anyways, great to see you looking into this, replicating and giving it your best as usual ;)

Looking forward in your test results.

Luc

Hi Luc,

It sounds like you may have already built one of these.  The magnets you used are the same exact magnets I'm using on this replication:

McMaster - 5738K31 High-Temp Ceramic Rectangular Bar Magnet 1-7/8" Length, 7/8" Width, 3/8" Thick, 4 Pull lbs

Wow!  Thanks for your comments.  Take care,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on March 26, 2009, 11:07:54 PM
Hi Luc,

It sounds like you may have already built one of these.  The magnets you used are the same exact magnets I'm using on this replication:

McMaster - 5738K31 High-Temp Ceramic Rectangular Bar Magnet 1-7/8" Length, 7/8" Width, 3/8" Thick, 4 Pull lbs

Wow!  Thanks for your comments.  Take care,

Greg

Yes!... I forgot to mention that but the two magnets are Ferrite Ceramic. I just glued 2 spacers on each sides the shaft and of the same thickness as the shaft. I think I may of used Epoxy to keep the thing together. These magnets were a perfect fit for the MOT coils, next to no space wasted.

Maybe I should make a video of it!... Anyone interested?

Luc

Added: I just pulled it off the shelve and looked at the spacers I used between the magnets and they are strips of flexible magnets (like magnetic fridge add cards). I think that was a smart move on my part as it keeps the magnetic flux connected between the two magnets. I also did use Epoxy to keep the shaft in place.
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 28, 2009, 02:04:01 AM
Yes!... I forgot to mention that but the two magnets are Ferrite Ceramic. I just glued 2 spacers on each sides the shaft and of the same thickness as the shaft. I think I may of used Epoxy to keep the thing together. These magnets were a perfect fit for the MOT coils, next to no space wasted.

Maybe I should make a video of it!... Anyone interested?

Luc

Added: I just pulled it off the shelve and looked at the spacers I used between the magnets and they are strips of flexible magnets (like magnetic fridge add cards). I think that was a smart move on my part as it keeps the magnetic flux connected between the two magnets. I also did use Epoxy to keep the shaft in place.

Yeah man !

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: LatexDucky on March 28, 2009, 02:55:02 AM
Why not attach a belt from the rotor of the keppe motor to a rotor of a generator to get some usable energy?  You could glue the bar magnets together as usual but then also glue some plastic fittings so the rotor is circular and a belt will fit.  The keppe motor could supposedly run itself and the generator at the same time right?
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on March 28, 2009, 06:02:09 AM
Yeah man !

Greg

Okay!  here you go ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rbxqmk3GH0

Luc
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 28, 2009, 09:07:17 PM
Okay!  here you go ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rbxqmk3GH0

Luc

Great Luc,

Thanks for posting the video.  As you can tell from my pics of my Keppe housing ... looking at the bearings ... my magnets will rotate end-over-end long ways, N-S, but your construction is very similar. 

Thanks again LUc,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 28, 2009, 09:43:51 PM
Why not attach a belt from the rotor of the keppe motor to a rotor of a generator to get some usable energy?  You could glue the bar magnets together as usual but then also glue some plastic fittings so the rotor is circular and a belt will fit.  The keppe motor could supposedly run itself and the generator at the same time right?

HI,

My understanding is that the Keppe motor is best at delivering torque and as such would be best at driving mechanical loads like fans, pumps and of course generators.  Yet in one of the videos they are shown harvesting electrical power from the motor's circuitry and charging a battery.  But still I think it is best at driving a mechanical load.  I purchased the manual and am also building a motor as seen in pictures from my earlier posts.  I will  mount the motor housing on a second set of motor shaft bearings and attach a moment arm to measure motor torque (reaction torque) via a scale (same as in one of the Keppe videos). 

It is my understanding that a 'complimentary' torque is generated by the 'complimentary' scalar energy harvested at resonance of the pulsed DC power to the the motor ( I like the word "harvested").  But this is a common principle used for other self-charging technologies like Bedini's and Newman's.  The difference(s) seem to me is, again, to be that the motor is built specifically for torque from scalar energies and not for charging batteries or making power from mass.

Peace,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: LatexDucky on March 28, 2009, 10:00:44 PM
how about build the rotor of a generator around the rod that goes through the rotor of the keppe motor so that they are the same thing basically
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on March 29, 2009, 07:29:03 AM
how about build the rotor of a generator around the rod that goes through the rotor of the keppe motor so that they are the same thing basically

Oh, I forgot to say that the load will be a fan on the motor shaft ... just like in one of the videos.  Eventually a generator might be in order, but for measurement sake it would be difficult to determine the output of such a small motor using a generator because of the losses and all of such a small generator.  A fan is actually a good way to load up a small motor like a Keppe demonstration motor.  They say it produces more equivalent output power than it consumes so I could use a small PM motor as a generator as a load through a resistor.  Still I'll need the reaction arm and gram scale for a truer power determination.

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 01, 2009, 05:32:22 AM
HI all,

As of the moment of this writing, you can download the Keppe Motor Manual for FREE at the Keppe Motor Club

http://keppemotorclub.bestforumpro.com/forum.htm

Select the 'General Forum'.  I don't think you even need to log in  Look for the posting by Abrakadabra.

I had to pay $50.00 for the thing!  So get it while it's hot.

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: hansvonlieven on April 01, 2009, 07:07:33 AM
Thanks for the tip gmeast.

I have just downloaded the manual and I must say I would be very pissed off if I had paid 50 bucks for the thing. The principles behind this design have been well known for a long time. What he has done is put a magnet inside a coil and pulsed the dc to the coil so the magnet would rotate. Instead of a commutator he uses a magnet and a reed switch, nothing new in that either.

Altogether a fizzer. I am not impressed.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: LatexDucky on April 01, 2009, 02:33:34 PM
http://rapidshare.com/.....
that can be downloaded from more than 10 times...

Sorry, had to ban the download of copyrighted material..!
(admin)

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 01, 2009, 05:22:36 PM
Thanks for the tip gmeast.

I have just downloaded the manual and I must say I would be very pissed off if I had paid 50 bucks for the thing. The principles behind this design have been well known for a long time. What he has done is put a magnet inside a coil and pulsed the dc to the coil so the magnet would rotate. Instead of a commutator he uses a magnet and a reed switch, nothing new in that either.

Altogether a fizzer. I am not impressed.

Hans von Lieven

HI,

...yeah, well I better see the same scope capture waveform shown in the manual with this demonstrator motor AND the dyno performance or they will hear from me ... but that won't do any good anyway because the moderators never answer any questions ... at least not since I've been a member.  It seems as though the "Keppe Motor Team" has fallen asleep at the wheel when it comes to their own forum.

BUT, I will give it the benefit of the doubt for now because they do claim that running it under load, at "resonance" is when you hit the 'sweet spot' and that may be so.  And they do make the distinction that this motor is for producing mechanical power, not recharging batteries 'a la Bedini ions' and that it harvests energy from the 'vacuum of space - scalar compliment' not from copper wire mass 'a la Newman'.  So there are fundamental differences in both theory and operation even though the construction appears basic and non-innovative ... maybe that's the key.  I have also noted in the video where they show the reaction arm and scale for torque, that they refer to the "electromagnetic turbo system".  If that (whatever it is) is part of the 'operating principle' then they need to include those specifics in the manual ... or the download manual (the one I paid 50 bucks for $$$$!@#!)  misrepresents ... no matter what kind of disclaimer they include.

WHEW !

Greg

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 01, 2009, 06:07:38 PM
Thanks for the pics Greg, nice work!!! I am also building a Keppe Motor, I will be sure to share my progress with you guys here. I do have the one for sale up and running and it works great. Has anybody tried to influence the motor with a large magnet? I held a huge round earth magnet near the running motor and it actually speeds up a great deal. You have to find the "sweet spot" but I doubled and even tripled my rpms.

Best,

Will

Hi Will,

Do you have any pictures or videos of the one you have for sale?

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on April 01, 2009, 08:17:17 PM
Has anybody tried to influence the motor with a large magnet? I held a huge round earth magnet near the running motor and it actually speeds up a great deal. You have to find the "sweet spot" but I doubled and even tripled my rpms.

Best,

Will

Hi Will,

I do have a large round magnet and I tried it on my motor with not much luck. I had to change my commutator (used in video demo) to a reed switch which is much more stable. I noticed one spot that increased the RPM but that is close to the reed switch area. Nowhere else did I find an increase, it was actually a decrease. I think what could be happening is the magnet is keeping the reed switch closed for a longer period but this would use more power from the source.

If you don't agree and you get an increase at areas away from the reed switch please do a video demo of this with an amp meter attached so we can see your results.

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: hansvonlieven on April 01, 2009, 10:17:32 PM
G'day all,

I am working on a diagrammatic representation of the motor that shows clearly how it works. I will upload it here when it's done.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: hansvonlieven on April 01, 2009, 11:25:56 PM
As promised, here it is:

The Keppe Motor

 
The motor is basically a permanent magnet inside a coil. When the coil is energised the magnet will align itself with the magnetic field inside the coil.

To get the contraption to rotate Keppe pulses the current going through the coil. He does this via a small commutator disk with a small magnet attached. As the magnet passes a reed switch the circuit is closed and the coil energised for a brief moment.

There is nothing new or original here. His theory is crap.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 06, 2009, 02:30:54 AM
Hi all,

I thought I'd post some pics of my setup.  I got the motor running and completed the test fixture yesterday.

#12 shows the motor running under a load in its setup. You can tell it's running because the phenolic base is visible through the rotating paddle on the right side.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe12.jpg

#13 & #14 show the coil frame and reed switch support mounted for rotation so that a torque arm can be attached and used in conjunction with a gram scale to measure motor reaction torque.  This is just like in the video (very good video I must add).
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe13.jpg
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe14.jpg

#15 shows a scope trace of the motor running.  As can be seen, the battery is 7 - 8 VDC.It's running at around 480 RPM. 
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe15.jpg
It was consuming around 0.035 to 0.045 A (35-45 mA).  The damping oscillation is right around 335-340 Hz as seen on the scope capture found at lower right 

I intend to determine my input power by measuring the AC current from an isolation transformer (115VAC-12VAC) that will, in turn, get rectified and charge a large 16 VDC electrolytic cap as the Keppe motor's supply.

I will determine output power by using an adjustable eddy current (prony) brake (as a replacement for the paddle shown) to load the motor, the aforementioned torque arm and a remote tach for RPM.

When I get the rest thrown together, I'll post some more pics and make a video.

Happy experimenting,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on April 06, 2009, 06:13:46 AM
Thanks Greg for the new pictures and sharing your first known data.

Looking forward to your other tests.

Luc
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 12, 2009, 01:12:59 AM
Hi everyone,

I have finished building my eddy current loading brake.  I also finished wiring a 115VAC-10VAC xformer, bridge rectifier and 65,000uF cap as my power supply to feed my Keppe motor.  Monitoring the VAC into the bridge and large cap provides an accurate reading of the input power to my Keppe motor.

Under load and with best timing there is nearly NO sparking or arcing at the reed switch ! !

The motor is running at 960 (or so) RPM.

I have adjusted the timing of my Keppe motor for best power under load.  I have not received my digital scale I will use to measure torque but I'll post what I have now.

Enjoy,

Greg

Here are the pictures:

This picture shows the eddy current brake used to load the Keppe motor.  As the magnet on the screw moves closer to the spinning aluminum disc, the motor gets loaded.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe18.jpg

This picture shows the timing adjustment used to produce best power under load.  Notice the spikes going MOSTLY negative
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe16.jpg

This picture shows a large volume of negative going spikes at the beginning of the stator coil oscillation.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe17.jpg

The next picture shows the stable AC power at 12.46V-RMS feeding the bridge and cap.  It is nearly perfect sine wave ... suitable for computing input power.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe20.jpg

The next picture shows the transformer, bridge rectifier, cap and back of my Keppe motor.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe19.jpg

This last picture is the current my Keppe motor is drawing while running at 960 RPM under load and producing the above scope captures.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe21.jpg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on April 12, 2009, 07:00:19 AM
Excellent craftsmanship and test report Greg ;)

Do I understand this correctly!... the power consumed is 40ma from the 12.46vac side of the step down transformer and the motor turns at 960 RPM with load?

Could you do a no load test to see what the ma draw and RPM are.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 12, 2009, 04:42:10 PM
Excellent craftsmanship and test report Greg ;)

Do I understand this correctly!... the power consumed is 40ma from the 12.46vac side of the step down transformer and the motor turns at 960 RPM with load?

Could you do a no load test to see what the ma draw and RPM are.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

Hi Luc,


Just did that now.  It goes 1359 RPM and 12.93 VAC @ 19.83 mA input to the bridge and cap ! !

Peace,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on April 12, 2009, 05:39:56 PM
Thanks Greg for doing this test.

That's a good RPM for the ma draw using a low voltage

Looking forward to the Torque tests.

Thanks for sharing

Luc
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 12, 2009, 06:00:40 PM
Thanks Greg for doing this test.

That's a good RPM for the ma draw using a low voltage

Looking forward to the Torque tests.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

On the previous test I just backed the braking magnet as far as it would go.  I did the test again but completely removed the braking magnet and the RPM peaked out at 1426 RPM.  The current didn't really budge ... down by only.05 mA.

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 12, 2009, 07:15:07 PM
Hey Luc,

Check this out.  I took a look at my cap voltage only to find that it's sitting at 13.89VDC while the motor is running under load. So I started cranking the time scale down and saw what I think is going on with these pulsed motors.  I have never thought to crank it down to the nanosecond scale before which is why I never saw this stuff.

I have included three scope shots of the capacitor terminals:

Greg

This first capture shows the motor running and top of cap at a 500usec/div scale ... nothing spectacular so far.
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe22.jpg

The next capture shows another somewhat familiar and expected picture of the coil's signature at 50usec/div
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe23.jpg

But at the 10nanosecond scale you really see something incredible.  If you look at the areas under the trace you can see an appreciable amount of charging ABOVE the 13.89VDC average voltage.  In fact the scope is says +29VDC (lower right).  This appears to be a self-charging affect.  This is happening near Gigaherts frequencies and might be evidence of ZPE's contribution, scalar?
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/keppe/keppe24.jpg







Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on April 13, 2009, 03:20:23 AM
Hi Greg,

wow, 10ns is close to the max of my USB scope (4ns max)  That is very interesting.

Could this be the collapsing field jumping the gap at the reed switch opening?

I had to install a reed switch on my motor since the commutator I made did not last but unfortunately I took it off today to do a video of some new tests on the motor. You may want to try this also if you have a signal generator since you don't really need to take the switch off. Have a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS4zmXU11A8

Keep me updated.

Luc
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 13, 2009, 04:41:02 AM
Hi Greg,

wow, 10ns is close to the max of my USB scope (4ns max)  That is very interesting.

Could this be the collapsing field jumping the gap at the reed switch opening?

I had to install a reed switch on my motor since the commutator I made did not last but unfortunately I took it off today to do a video of some new tests on the motor. You may want to try this also if you have a signal generator since you don't really need to take the switch off. Have a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS4zmXU11A8

Keep me updated.

Luc

Fantastic!  Nice vid. Stupid little coreless motors.  It could be that phase shifting might be a good motor control optimizer.  You may have discovered a new 'PM motor mode' ... supply a PM motor coil with a fixed frequency and waveform (running the motor synchronously) and then loading the motor appropriately.

On my testing:  I'm learning from this Keppe motor investigation that I should rapidly pulse the input.  Also that pulse should be the shortest possible pulse-width and at a frequency higher than the coil's natural oscillation.  The coil's oscillation is only about 80KHz compared to the 100MHz of the phenomenon in that last scope capture.  So as you say, it might be that initial 'let loose' when the reed switch opens.

I am gaining somewhat of a clearer idea of what Newman has been trying to convey all these years.

Well your observations as well as the Keppe motor's characteristics are most intriguing.

Keep it up man.  That is really something,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gotoluc on April 13, 2009, 05:53:41 AM
Glad you liked it Greg ;D Stupid little coreless motors :P

Exactly!... that was my thought are also!... using multiple phases the motor would have much more potential and control.

Multiple super short pulses is also going to be built into my new motor, that's why I bought 50 pcs. of 20mm Rhodium reed switches on eBay for $1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=370182987793   the idea is also for the new motor Air Core Coils to go into Resonance once the motor is at speed. The new magnet rotor will have 4 poles N-S-N-S. The shaft will have a large diameter timing disk to which the multiple reed trigger magnets can be precisely position to create the super short duty cycle and the multiple reeds will be creating the polarity flip creating the AC square wave for the coils which is an essential for resonance. No more electronic components switching circuits for me. It's back to the basic switch.

All these new ideas started grinding in my mind since I pulled the motor off the shelf to show you.

Let me know of any of your thoughts.

Luc

ADDED: Oh ya!, I started a new topic since I was so impressed with this new finding called "AC Permenent Magnet Motor" : http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7230.0
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 16, 2009, 06:31:59 PM
Hi all,

Well here are a couple of views of my Keppe motor, moment arm anvil and digital scale.  The scale has a resolution (and I hope the accuracy) of 0.2g.  The moment arm is 2.375 inches.

So far the pulsing of the motor interferes with the sample rate of the scale.  I'm trying several techniques to damp the support frame or change the inertial moment of the support frame.  So far it has been frustrating.

Thanks,

Greg

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 17, 2009, 07:18:20 AM
Thanks for the pics Greg, nice work!!! I am also building a Keppe Motor, I will be sure to share my progress with you guys here. I do have the one for sale up and running and it works great. Has anybody tried to influence the motor with a large magnet? I held a huge round earth magnet near the running motor and it actually speeds up a great deal. You have to find the "sweet spot" but I doubled and even tripled my rpms.

Best,

Will

Hi Isdaudio,

I did place a magnet near my Keppe motor and got the same effect.  I also monitored the current draw frof the motor and it increased also.  I turned the magnet over and the motor slowed and the current dropped too.  It is very interesting that you can cause more power to flow in the motor by using a static, external PM field.

When is the Keppe Motor Team going to disclose the rest of the 'inner workings' of the Keppe motor.  From my tests the 'demo motor appears to be very inefficient as it stands.  You claim to be on the 'inside' with the engineers there.  I think for those of us that had the respect and consideration to actually 'pay' for the manual, all of the 'inner workings' should be disclosed.

Why don't you get that information for us?  I'm not getting any information out of the Keppe Motor Club either.  I'll just keep testing and post my results as they come in.

Thank you,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 18, 2009, 03:30:21 AM
Hi everyone,

I have somewhat resolved my torque measurement issue involving my small digital scale (sample rate issues).

I am posting here my first (mostly) complete data:
The torque data comes from a small digital scale (-+ 0.2g)
The current comes form a shunt = 5.1 ohms. No correction was made for the power dissipated by the shunt, so there's some more to add to the output efficiency.

Load: 2 grams @ 2.33 inch torque arm
Voltage: Pulse 16VDC
Current: approx 75% of 0.196A Peak = 0.147Aavg
  (see picture - classic R-L inductor charge curve)
Pulse Duty Cycle: approx 13%
Motor Speed: 1001RPM

Results:
Input Power: 0.30576 Watts
Output Horsepower: 0.000163022 H.P.
Output Equivalent: 0.124615 Watts

Efficiency: about 40% (without shunt power figured in)

I think this is all right but any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Greg

Ch2 is the 5.1 ohm current shunt
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: alessiof76 on April 21, 2009, 09:35:24 PM
I have found the Keppe Motor manual on
...
Link deleted due to copyright infringement (admin)
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: alessiof76 on April 22, 2009, 09:54:24 PM
for gmeast:
You have tried to measure the energy lost to friction?
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 23, 2009, 03:27:52 AM
for gmeast:
You have tried to measure the energy lost to friction?


Hi alessiof76,

I ran it by hand  in both directions and watched the gram scale.  It only loads .5 grams in either direction.  The bearings are very good, but 0.5 grams is still 25% percent waste tho.

 I have not put a diode to recover any power from the field at the reed switch nor tried to run a neon lamp yet ... that's next.  This kind of dyno washes out the drag from the inner bearings but unfortunately not the outer bearings ... gives you net power minus outer bearing(s) drag.

Thanks for commenting,

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 23, 2009, 08:20:03 PM
Hi all,

I contacted the Keppe Motor people from their website to ask if the Version 3 manual was available yet.  I got a prompt reply that it was and they provided the link.  As some of you know there is a contract they want you to agree to and in that contract (clause 6) it states the Ver 3 manual costs $50.00 and the Ver 3 Kit costs $350.00.

As I stepped through the process the PayPal site came up with an 'Amount Due' of $250.00 ! @%$#&...so I sent them off an email asking them to fix that so no one gets taken on a technicality.

So be careful with you 'clicks'.  Just a friendly heads-up for now.  I think I'll wait for the Ver 3 to leak onto the internet like the Ver 1 did.

Greg
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: gmeast on April 30, 2009, 03:36:47 PM
Hi all,

Several people on the Keppe Motor Club forum have cried "foul" because they had assumed the Ver 1 Motor and Manual were OU.  Following is Keppe Motor's response.  It's candid and logical but hints that the Ver. 3 Motor/Manual could BE OU given certain conditions and circumstances.

Greg

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I hope the following information can clarify some aspects of your inquiries.

The Keppe Motor 1.0 was never intended for practical applications. It is the simplest version possible of the Keppe Motor (1 pulse, low voltage, easy-to-find ferrite block magnets, etc.) and it was intended for introduction of the principle behind this new technology based on Keppe’s Disinverted Physics, and its efficiency is actually low as you have said.
Nevertheless, much progress has been done since the first model was constructed (February-2008) and part of it is in the version 3.0. This manual gives you conditions to build (and improve by yourself) a Keppe Motor with enough output power to substitute a 50-60W conventional induction motor (squirrel cage) saving from 70 to 90% of the electric energy consumed by it.

However, perhaps some clarifications about low power induction motors are necessary here.
The 50-60W induction motors found especially in domestic fans are very inefficient, ranging from 3 to 20% efficiency at most. Actually you can regard them more as “tea-heaters” than motors themselves. This means that, from 60W they consume from the grid, they produce no more than 10W in average of output power. There are practical reasons for this low efficiency and if you want to have a more efficient fan for example you need a better motor, which costs much more and is more complicate to build. These low power induction motors are used for cost reasons and because they are easy to build, which make them attractive to the market.
Nevertheless, when we speak about energy savings, they may be consider “blood suckers” of the grid and we need other alternatives.
Here is exactly where the Keppe Motor enters the scene. The Keppe Motor is able to do the same mechanical work with 70 to 90% less consumption of energy, even though its efficiency is not high.

A practical example:
A renowned manufacturer here in Brazil manufactures 60W domestic fans with 3 speeds. The first speed is 560 rpm and consumes 49W, the second speed is 850 rpm and consumes 62W and the third speed is 1085 rpm and consumes 70W.
These figures (speeds and consumptions) were measured in our lab with accurate equipment.

The torque tests revealed that the mechanical output power in these three speeds were 1.3W for 560 rpm, 5.6W for 850 rpm and 12.1W for 1085 rpm. With these results we obtain the following efficiencies for this conventional motor (squirrel cage induction motor):

First speed (560 rpm) → efficiency (η) = 1.3/49 = 0.0265 or η1 = 2.7%
Second speed (850 rpm) → η = 5.6/62 = 0.0903 or η2 = 9.0%
Third speed (1085 rpm) → η = 12.1/70 = 0.1729 or η3 = 17.3%

As we can see, the efficiency of this motor is very low.
When we substituted it for an equivalent Keppe Motor, the consumptions dropped dramatically as follows:

First speed (560 rpm): from 49W to 3.9W, therefore η1’ = 1.3/3.9 = 0,333 or η1’ = 33.3%
Second speed (850 rpm): from 62W to 15.2W, therefore η2’ = 5.6/15.2 = 0,368 or η2’ = 36.8%
Third speed (1,085 rpm): from 70W to 33.9W, therefore η3’ = 12.1/33.9 = 0.357 or η3’ = 35.7%

Some comments about these results:
1) It turns out clear that efficiency is very different from energy savings in relation to the conventional motor, that is:

The efficiency of the Keppe Motor (in the simplest version) is less than 40% in the three speeds, nevertheless it saves (49-3.9)W=45.1W in the first speed, (62-15.2)W=46.8W in the second speed and (70-33.9)W=36.1W in the third speed.
This gives 45.1/49 = 92% energy savings for the first speed, 46.8/62 = 75% energy savings for the second speed and 36.1/70 = 52% energy savings for the third speed.

This data leads to the conclusion that the Keppe Motor saves between 75 and 92% energy within the work range between 49 and 62W of the conventional motor and this is pretty much in accordance with what has been claimed so far.
The energy savings begins to drop below 70% around 950 rpm and the data confirms that when we get 52% energy savings for the fastest speed of 1,085 rpm.
2) The efficiency of the Keppe Motor in its simplest version is fantastic, even if it is below 40%, because of the constructive impossibilities to build an equivalent low power conventional motor with low cost and such simplicity.
3) The Keppe Motor can achieve much better efficiencies (about 50%) if it works with a second coil and better yet (about 70%) if works with the second coil and domestic voltages (127 or 220Volts).
4) However, it must be said that the principle applied to the first motor (the 1.0 version motor) has already led the Keppe Motor team to achieve overunity results. Nevertheless it requires the use of the “Electromagnetic Turbo System”, which is a system designed by the inventors to use the capacity the Keppe Motor has to work as an electric generator to retro-feed the coils.
With this EM Turbo System the Keppe Motor can reach efficiencies as high as 150% (we mean Efficiency, Output/Input superior to 150%, not energy savings in relation to other motor!) at 150Volts, with 60W mechanical output. This means the Keppe Motor overunity consumes 40W and produces 60W at the present stage of development.

The Keppe Motor Manual version 3.0 does not bring the EM Turbo System, nevertheless it gives the schematics of the optical switching circuit and the circuit with relays we still use in laboratory (easy to build) attached to the coil to make tests for many pulses. With this motor 3.0 you will have 10W output power to run fans or any other practical application (remember: 10W is output power, not rated power). The Keppe Motor version 1.0 has just some milliwatts of output, but 3 or 4W output are enough to run a fan!!! In other words, 10W can easily do some useful work for you with very low electric consumption!
A hint: if you get this manual version 3.0, try to wind a second coil around the first and add two more pulses to see the result. You’ll start to see that the principle behind the Keppe Motor can easily lead to an overunity motor.

In regard to the Keppe Motor overunity, the Association STOP the Destruction of the World (holder of the patent rights) is taking care of the certification and will make it available in proper time.

Hope to have been of help.
Administrator

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Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: ZaPHoN on February 11, 2010, 05:08:55 AM
The Best way to deal with a fraud trying to take money from sheep is to make what they peddle freely available.

If anyone has the manuals I'll put them on a server they can't touch so everyone can download it.

Two things we all must battle:

1. Corporate greed that does not serve a commons of all mankind
2. Scammers trying to fleece the sheep

I for one am fed up with the crap claims hiding behind convenient conspiracies to justify not sharing their professed holy cause to better mankind unless it is bound with blind faith and a check.

If I find those manuals I'll post the link so they can be freely downloaded for the whole world.
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
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Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
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Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: kampen on October 27, 2010, 03:19:56 PM
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Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: caccr2000 on December 18, 2010, 03:13:11 PM
aqui dejo videos dos primeros videos

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTK9CCN9
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I2C86HS9

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: caccr2000 on December 18, 2010, 03:16:35 PM
dejo dos videos

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTK9CCN9
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I2C86HS9

Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: caccr2000 on December 21, 2010, 03:16:49 PM
bueno aqui dejo el video 3 y 4

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Q5MP3ELP
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=44EAGIHE
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: dasimpson on December 22, 2010, 02:54:50 AM
sorry this is just another simple pulse motor with a second coil to take the movemnt of the magnet pasing the coil and turn it into eletricity again
he has just copyed somthing that has allready been done and put his name on it
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: caccr2000 on December 22, 2010, 02:22:13 PM
aqui dejo los videos 5 y 6

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YK68OT3X
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P7AUZMRO
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: caccr2000 on December 23, 2010, 03:30:13 PM
aqui dejo videos 7 y 8

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9GUOMW3U
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BX0SNE53
Title: Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
Post by: caccr2000 on December 27, 2010, 03:16:45 PM
aqui dejo los videos 9, 10 y 11

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DJZFI8PR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R6MNPKXX
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MM5XE5HI