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Author Topic: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination  (Read 80185 times)

Offline chessnyt

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2008, 10:29:40 AM »
Hello everyone,

I have viewed all of the videos presented here and I am sad to say that what is being presented is a very cleverly devised promotion of another inventor’s work.  The air-core stator designs are not new and the switching technique is one in which I am very familiar with.  Does this mean I am saying that they are indeed mine?  No they most certainly are not.
 
In the midst of an energy and economic crisis of epic proportions, it is with great disappointment for me to see people trying to take advantage of a vulnerable public desperately seeking out new more affordable and cleaner energy solutions.
 
Is the Keppe book “The New Physics” being given out for free?  No it is not.  Obviously Dr. Keppe is trying to promote his book as are the editors of this book as well.  The Keppe Motor is merely a ploy to generate interest in his books.  Books he intends to make a great deal of profit off of.
 
What does one of the real inventors think of “The Keppe Motor”?  I will allow him to speak for himself. 
 
Below is John Bedini's response to this “new” motor in a letter to Rick Friedrich:

“Rick,

Here is my response to the copy Window motor.

It would be nice if you would give credit where it is due. As I and Ron Cole are the real inventor's of this motor, it's called the window motor as I have shown for many years. If you think not, just type Window Motor into Google under Bedini Window Motor. Why don't you show the switching circuit or explain it? Also it could only be MY circuits that capture this energy for recovery into the second or third battery. The second switching circuit could only be the bi-polar switcher circuit on the internet. Let's get real, it's not a
good deal to take others work and call it your own!!!!!

The only other motor is Joe Newman's energy machine which uses contact switching which you do not have, so the only other way to capture Radiant or Scalar energy is the Bedini SG circuit, why because you can stop it without any current input or heating. The funny thing is everybody knows who put all the diagrams on the internet, my patents clearly show the switching in the Mono Pole motor and all the documentation on the internet surely shows no capacitor but a diode or bridge collecting the excess energy.

This is what is wrong with humanity as to why you are very limited in what can be done with your re-invented machine, the world will know the truth some day. If you find you are in disagreement with what I have said here it can be worked out as to who the real inventor's are. It really burns my ass what great men of science do with others work. You can not call this your motor at all, and it is plain theft of my circuits and motor which are protected in my patents. I would have wished we could have started on a better foot, post your circuit's and rotor magnet arrangement let's see!!!!!!!!! It's been on my internet pages forever.

John Bedini

Here is the link to the website:
http://www.stop.org.br/site/catalogo/materias.php?idmateria=808”

As you can see from the above letter, John is clearly upset with this so-called “new” motor and rightfully so.
   
Sincerely disappointed,

Joe

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2008, 02:01:42 PM »
"    ...You can not call this your motor at all ...    "

***   No-one can!   ***
This is Right Hand Rule http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html
This is used in hundred of different types of electric machines around the world.
It does not matter you do it axial or radial, used mechanical or electronic commutator,
used one, two, three or what ever number of phases ... used what ever even number of rotor poles,
Used what ever design - outer or inner runner ... spinning armature or rotor ... maden professionally, well done .. or built like fumbler - IT DOES NOT MATTER!
Used full cycle of  waveform (push-pull) or just one side of ... it does not matter!
It does not matter you left flux returning parts from magnetic circuit - it does not matter you did it knowingly or you did it because poor school.

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khabe

It does not matter we rename things we dont understand about as fusion ... scalar ... essential ... 
Bling-bling show off with sonorous therms and names give us nothing :'(


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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2008, 06:25:40 PM »
Rick & Joe,

I understand why Joe is upset but please before passing judgment on the Keppe Motor and the people of STOP wait until you see the manual and do your research into the group. These people I know very well and they are NOT trying to get rich or hurt anyone, this you would see for your self if you would be willing to contact them and find out for yourself what they are about. I cannot speak for them but I am sure they would be very please to hear from you and would love to hear your concerns.

The people who constructed the Keppe Motor team are not a fly by night outfit they have been well established in the medical community for over 50 years. Please look into this and find out for yourself what they stand for, they have nothing to hide and are very welcoming people.

Who ever reported my video to the youtube staff is in error (not saying it was anyone here). You do not know exactly how The Keppe Motor works and have no right to claim that my vid was in violation of your rights until you can present a proper argument. Since you do not have the full information on the Keppe Motor and that video does not show the inner workings of the Keppe Motor, it does not violate anyones rights whatsoever. However I will keep it unpublished for now until we can work this out, I do not want to disrespect anyone, I have good intentions with this matter and I am more than willing to help resolve this.

Is it possible that all of us here can work together to find out what is going on between the 2 Motors? Please lets get to the bottom of this in a clam and intelligent manner, there is allot at stake here for everyone on the planet.

I am way over my head with the technical discussions going on here so I am going to contact The Keppe Motor people and let them know of our discussions here. Then we all can have a civil discussion about Joe's motor & The Keppe Motor. Please understand that no one is try to steal anything and this can be worked out if the parties involved are willing.

Please could you re-post the link to Joe's motor, the link posted is for The Keppe Motor.

**update** I was sent this link by a member of STOP the Destruction of the World in regards to the Bedini & Keppe Motors. the link to this form was sent to Ceser Soos co-inventer of the Keppe Motor for his review.

http://keppemotor.wordpress.com/

Sincerely,

Will



Difference between Keppe Motor and Bedini
November 20, 2008 by Rich Jones
Lot of questions about this, and so we wanted to just clear it up for you here.

Right off the bat, let’s be clear that the Bedini Motor is a great invention, and our hats go off to John Bedini for his excellent work, and for making the technology so accessible. There are some distinct differences, though, and so let’s clear that up once and for all.

First, the Bedini Motor works mostly as a generator; the Keppe Motor is a motor. What we mean by this is a device that transforms electrical energy (watts) into mechanical energy (torque or “force” and rotation). Although Bedini has a rotor with magnets, it is used mostly to generate pulses in order to charge batteries. In other words, Bedini does not extract mechanical energy from the system, which means it does not produce torque so it cannot efficiently power the blades of a fan, for example. The Keppe Motor can drive a fan, and very efficiently – using up to 90% less energy than a common electrical motor.

Our system generate some electrical energy to charge a battery or a capacitor as the Bedini Motor does, which shows that there is extra energy in the system that is not being used. We are working now to develop motors that do use all this energy, and hope to have prototypes to do this in the very near future.

Second, the Bedini Motor is a mono-polar machine (meaning it uses only one pole of the magnet, north OR south), while the Keppe Motor is a bi-polar machine (meaning we use both poles, north AND south).

Hope that clears things up a little. There’s more to come, including some very exciting news hopefully in the next week or so. Keep checking in, or better yet, set your Google alerts to Keppe Motor to keep up with all the latest.


« Last Edit: December 04, 2008, 07:05:47 PM by Isdaudio »

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2008, 02:28:35 PM »
Anyone bought the manual?  Its now available at http://www.keppemotor.com/store.php

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2008, 02:57:29 PM »
@All

I decided to take the risk and bought the manual a couple of hours ago and am very disappointed  >:(

It's a toy version of the Newman motor  ::)

Ah well, nothing ventured nothing gained, hopefully the real motor isn't a window type motor ;D I'm always willing to forgive and forget!

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2008, 03:19:17 PM »
does this mean that the Newman motor is also this efficient......i don't care if it is a copy or similar to another machine...if it saves 95% energy then this is still a good thing?

where do i get details on the Newman motor(or Keppe Motor for that matter).


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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2008, 03:27:03 PM »
Hi smithandwes

The Keppe motor manual describes it as a "sample" motor so it's not the real deal as it uses an inefficient switching setup, I can't say much more about it because of the "Terms of use" but I doubt it's 95% efficient ::)

As far as the Newman motor just Google it, it's all over the Internet and there's also a section on this forum under Newman Machines. ;)



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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2008, 10:43:48 PM »
Hello everyone,

Just as I thought, the motor in reality is the work of another inventor.  My thanks goes out to Paul for buying the motor manual and checking out the technical information on it.  Great job Paul!  Now more people from this site do not need to buy it or their falsely represented book that they are peddling.

This is yet another example of just how far some people are willing to go to try to make a profit by exploiting the work of other inventors claiming it is their original discovery.
 
As for the “Bling-bling show off with sonorous therms” statement from Khabe, I can assure you I do not wear any “bling-bling” or even listen to hip-hop.  As for “sonorous therms”, I do not even know what you were trying to say there.  Fancy British thermal units? (I’m Irish by-the-way)

As for Will, the Bedini/Cole Window Motor is indeed bipolar as it has a rotor comprised of both North and South facing permanent magnet poles.  I am really not surprised that your technical staff could not provide you with the correct information here as well being they can’t produce an original motor of their own.

I am just an honest working man who still makes a living designing and building original circuitry for a living thus not needing to steal other people’s designs and call them my own just to sell phony books and manuals.  I pride myself on this fact.

Character does matter, Khabe.  So does honesty.  If you feel comfortable defending dishonest men who blatantly take credit for other people’s hard work, then maybe you should buy ten copies of their book to show your support.

Sincerely,

Joe   
 

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2008, 11:50:30 PM »
Let it be. Let they fight between for "all rights" of this machine ;)
Hereby many interesting readings, when braused extending everywhere then even for all week 8)
It does not matter you are believer or sceptic - educative anyway.
http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm
Myself Im fervent_hope_sceptic. I hope that something must to be ... but I dont like much stupidity ... and I hate fraud.
Newman´s, Keppe... etc ... machines are interesting stuff, very interesting things but unfortunately nothing more, at any rate not OU.
Have a nice readings,
khabe

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2008, 04:24:17 AM »
Anyone know where i can get the plans/description of the newman motor.  Some people say you only need one coil others say 2.  Some people are using a commutator and others a reed switch.

http://www.overunity.com/newman2 is not very useful?

A real pity about the Keppe Motor..i was hoping for something useful to build?

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2008, 04:47:22 PM »
Seems you want to be come a rich but dont want to work ::)
is it too hard to go to -> Forum -> Newman machines -> http://www.overunity.com/index.php?board=4.0   ???
If you really want to konw about - you have to read it all.
All !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2008, 03:45:52 AM »
The Keppe Motor DIY manual [Grade D-] is a waste of money. The worst YouTube video is better than this. Shame on them... The STOP organization chants save the world mantra and like most inventors that say they want to save the world but do not share the information, some like Paul Pantone: an angel gave the knowledge to him. E-mail me for a copy of the New Keppe Motor PDF manual.

I think Joseph Newman is really amazed how this Norberto Keppe has the intellectual dishonesty to not give credit due to the sources of the people who have similar interests and ideas. Keppe motor is a Copy of the Newman Motor.

The crackpot humanist psyco-shrink babbel talk, some people suck this up like a sponge. Follow the government grant money.

Ideas are everywhere but it takes actions and effort to make anything happen. The time we have is very short in this life. Saving a condemned   world is hardly an inspiration for an idea.

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From the PDF Keppe Motor Manual:

The Keppe Motor’s effect on a candle flame:
Observe the movement of a candle flame inside a longneck glass container that pro-
tects it from the wind approximately 1 meter from a Keppe Motor working at low speed.  (To
achieve low speeds use low voltage batteries).  Stop and start the motor several times and
see how the candle flame moves in accordance with the motor’s movement, even though
the flame is protected.

The Influence of one Keppe Motor on another Keppe Motor
at distance:
If you put two Keppe Motors (whether identical or not) side by side and have one motor
functioning, the other will automatically begin to spin at a speed that corresponds to one of
the “harmonic resonances” of the first one, even though no external power source is in use
on it at all.
If this phenomenon does not occur immediately, it is because the speed of the first mo-
tor is too fast. Use your hand to help spin the second motor until you notice it spinning by
itself. At a certain speed it will work by itself without significantly affecting the speed of the
first one.
This experiment suggests that many Keppe Motors functioning together will create a
resonant energetic field within which each one benefits from the other, increasing each
one’s efficiency even more.

Feeding a Keppe Motor with another Keppe Motor:
When we connect two Keppe Motors, we can demonstrate that both motors working in
tandem will consume less energy than if they were working separately. This means that the
Keppe Motor is capturing energy from space. For example, when there is a series of Keppe
Motors connected by wires, the next in line will always need less energy than the previous
ones to generate the same performance.
To illustrate this, the Keppe Motor development team conducted the following experi-
ment:
We developed two similar Keppe Motors—the first one with a thicker wired coil. We
rectified the current generated by the magnet of the first motor and sent it to a 10,000 µF
70 Volt capacitor, which in turn served as a power source for the second motor.
In measuring the consumption of the motors, we verified that working together we could
produce the same work (axis speed) at less energy consumption (1.5W) than if they oper-
ated separately (2.2W). This indicates that the energy needed to make the motors work
does not come only from the battery.
Below find the data for the experiment:
Separate Motors:
Motor 1: spinning at 3,000 rpm consumed 1.5W
Motor 2: spinning at 1,000 rpm consumed 0.7W
Connecting Motor 2 to Motor 1 through a bridge rectifier and a capacitor, we found:
Motor 1 spinning at 3,000 rpm
 and
Motor 2 spinning at 1,000 rpm
in operation together consumed only 1.5W
In other words, rather than the 2.2W of consumption we might expect (adding 1.5 W
and 0.7W together), the consumption by the battery stayed at 1.5W even with Motor 2
connected!
Conclusion:  There was no extra electrical energy needed to move the second motor.
So where did the energy come from to move it? Not from the battery, but from the second
component of space energy—the returning or “complementation” component of the Essen-
tial Energy. This is exactly what is predicted in Keppe’s New Physics.

 

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