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Author Topic: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination  (Read 80188 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« on: September 20, 2008, 12:57:08 PM »
Hi All,
have a look at this new released
Keppe Motor:

http://www.keppemotor.com/index.php


Here are 3 Videos of it on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo6y2fwLZ_Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTwwt-lmEA8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkCg_NBbVy0


Looks to me simular to a Newman motor combined with
the recharging effect of a Bedini motor charging up batteries..

Has anyone seen one live on a conference yet ?

Many thanks.

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 01:07:04 PM »
There is also an upcoming conference in San Diego,Ca
from the 24th to 27th of September 2008
where this motor will be shown:

http://www.wcatus.org/program_tabela.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYNoFrLOvqY


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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 01:07:04 PM »
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 09:19:01 PM »
I just read about the keppe motor and watched the youtube videos. Looks very cool and surprisingly simple. An invention like this would totally help the world... I hope they are able to get it to the market, assuming it's real of course.

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2008, 02:34:06 PM »
Newman motor transform matter in energy, and this new motor has the correct dialetics that the space is energy and can be capture trough this newmotor. The technology of this kind will be the technology of the future. Read the book New physics of Norberto Keppe to get more information about the right concepts o f physics.

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2008, 01:31:30 PM »
Not really the latest solid state generator technology.  He could have
at least used a pulsing and switching circuit to charge the one battery.
Seems like nobody is testing these things to determine efficiency. 
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2008, 09:58:57 AM »
A Portugean version of the plans for a very simple version of the motor has been posted;

http://www.keppemotor.com/pt/
http://www.keppemotor.com/pt/splash.php

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2008, 10:43:58 AM »
A Portugean version of the plans for a very simple version of the motor has been posted;


Stanis , can you post it here please ?

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2008, 04:24:25 PM »
 There is nothing special about this. There is no free energy here and it too consumes more then it recovers. They are supplying a pulse of energy to the coil and recapturing the collapsing field to charge a battery, the result is just a high efficient motor but they are not recovering more then what is used nor are they recovering all of what is used.

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2008, 10:29:03 PM »
There is nothing special about this. There is no free energy here and it too consumes more then it recovers. They are supplying a pulse of energy to the coil and recapturing the collapsing field to charge a battery, the result is just a high efficient motor but they are not recovering more then what is used nor are they recovering all of what is used.
I dont agree about "high efficient motor" - this is extremely low efficient motor when it will be used like work horse (because motors primely maden).
This motor runs near idling, near no load. This motor has no flux returning parts (for rotor magnet) - it has no iron losses because but if to build it at least 5 kW version then it will weight few tons minimum because rotor magnet without flux returning circuit must to be colossal (when compared with normal ironless (air-gap) motor.
You can build extreme efficient "normal" motor as well - you just use larger airgap and the best low-loss magnetic materials - all calculated for no load run - you will get efficent near 99% ...
but !!!  even smallest load what exceed calculated value will cause cruel disappointment - precipitous downfall of efficiency, very cheesy performance ...
In principle you can build your own version of Newman´s or Keppe motors - take any ironless (airgap) motor and remove flux returning rings.
What you´ll get - better one ???
No :'(
Never >:(
regards,
Khabe
 
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 10:58:54 PM by khabe »

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2008, 11:08:53 PM »
The only different between Newman´s and Keppe motors - the last one has axial polarity rotor and has seems electronical commutator ... see four sensors where one man is tuning timing when other adds voltage - so its without Newman´s "carbon fusion devices", Stephan 8)
gruss,
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2008, 10:41:45 PM »
Hello all,

I personally know the Scientists who built the Keppe motor including Dr. Norberto Keppe. Travelling to Brazil & San Diego, I have seen this motor many times and even had a minor role in editing "The New Physics" book which contains the principles that the Keppe Motor are based on.

"recapturing the collapsing field to charge a battery, the result is just a high efficient motor but they are not recovering more then what is used nor are they recovering all of what is used."


This statement is not correct. Actually the Keppe Motor is capable of producing more energy than goes into it and is only marketed as an efficient motor to avoid cynical North Americans who have heard this story a million times. I like you  am awaiting the English translated Keppe Motor Manual so I can build the motor and see if this one is capable of "perpetual energy" also.  It may need some modifications, I am sure there are some folks forum that could easily figure this out or you could contact the Inventors in Brazil and they may be able to help you.

The first time I saw the Keppe Motor it produced so much extra current that it actually freed back into the rectifying circuit  frying some components. I spoke with Cesar Soos one of the inventers about this and he confirmed that this was one of his early prototypes and that soon they would be able to prevent this from happening and re-channel the extra current into another device or battery(s). I have not spoken with Cesar for a couple of months now but I assume he has worked out this problem as the manual is now for public sale.

“I don’t agree about "high efficient motor" - this is extremely low efficient motor when it will be used like work horse (because motors primely maden).
This motor runs near idling, near no load. This motor has no flux returning parts (for rotor magnet) - it has no iron losses because but if to build it at least 5 kW version then it will weight few tons minimum because rotor magnet without flux returning circuit must to be colossal (when compared with normal ironless (air-gap) motor.
You can build extreme efficient "normal" motor as well - you just use larger airgap and the best low-loss magnetic materials - all calculated for no load run - you will get efficent near 99% ...
but !!! even smallest load what exceed calculated value will cause cruel disappointment - precipitous downfall of efficiency, very cheesy performance ...
In principle you can build your own version of Newman´s or Keppe motors - take any ironless (airgap) motor and remove flux returning rings.”

I am sure Khabe knows his stuff and is correct about making a extremely efficient motor from a “ironless (airgap) motor “ , I am not an electrical engineer so I will have to take his word. However as I stated before there are versions of the Keppe Motor capable of producing more energy than is inputted. It can and does handle load very well which sets it apart from others.  The Keppe motor’s I saw sounded like a small single motor propeller airplane taking off, I have the video to prove it. 

Also one very important fact is that the Keppe Motor has both torque and can produce very high RPM's which makes it much more practical than other motors such a the Newman Machine. In addition the Keppe motor runs completely cold, you do not need a cooling fan to keep it from burning out. In addition there is very little wear & tear on the motors parts, technically speaking one could run a properly constructed Keppe Motor for years & non stop.

Thanks,

Will

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2008, 11:10:00 PM »
OK,
I want to see it - Keppe motor on airplane, even model airplane, it does not matter for me ...there is propeller on the shaft of Keppe ... and it takes off.
Even if it flyes using batteries like wellknown RC model motors - even if it is not producing more energy than is inputted - just takes off and flyes - I will pay $100 to OU account as donation.
If its able to take off and fly without batteries - when seen video -  $1000 comes forthrightly from me.
The only thing - it must to be publiced and proofed video.

faithfully,
khabe

"... the Keppe motor runs completely cold ..."
No heat without work  ;)


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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2008, 02:35:22 AM »
OK,
I want to see it - Keppe motor on airplane, even model airplane, it does not matter for me ...there is propeller on the shaft of Keppe ... and it takes off.
Even if it flyes using batteries like wellknown RC model motors - even if it is not producing more energy than is inputted - just takes off and flyes - I will pay $100 to OU account as donation.
If its able to take off and fly without batteries - when seen video -  $1000 comes forthrightly from me.
The only thing - it must to be publiced and proofed video.

faithfully,
khabe

"... the Keppe motor runs completely cold ..."
No heat without work  ;)




Khabe,

I did not say that there is a ver of the Keppe Motor that is attached to a plane. What I said was.."The Keppe motor’s I saw sounded like a small single motor propeller airplane taking off, I have the video to prove it". I am not a aeronautical engineer but the first motor I saw was so powerful, especially for a early prototype that it reminded me of a propeller prop plane taking off. I will upload the vid into you tube shortly, its is a rather long video with Caesar explaining the Keppe Motor's principles in Protégées. However you will see & hear one of the first vers of the motor running very fast & loud then the rectifier burns out.

"... the Keppe motor runs completely cold ..."
"No heat without work"

Khabe, I have physically touched a number of Keppe's Motor's after lengthily demonstrations in San Diego & in Sao Paulo Brazil and there was no heat detected by my hand. I am sure if a proper instrument was used one could detect an increase of heat but I am only speculating about this and it would not surprise me if the temp increase was too little to measure. This can be easily tested by anyone who wishes to build this motor, including folks in this forum. Also it is very important to read the book The New Physics Derived from A Disinverted Metaphysics” By Norberto R Keppe, Ph.D- 156 pages & The ABCs of the New Physics- 163 pages. http://www.analyticaltrilogy.com/book.html

$1000.00 would be a very generous donation and can be made to http://www.stop.org.br/site/catalogo/index.php?_newidioma=en so anyone who is ambitious enough to take Khabe up on his offer is doing a very good deed. If you need help let me know or contact STOP USA at the link. I might just take you up on this offer Khabe but for know I have my plate full so its going to take me a few months if not a year to get to this if I decide.

Another point I would like to make is the integrity of the Scientists involved with the development of the Keppe Motor is of the highest I have ever seen.  60 years of research & development went into the science that the Keppe Motor is based on. You might not agree with the principles and that understandable, this is a ground breaking new science and challenges the main stream of our most prestigious universities. However I challenge anyone to disprove the functioning of the Keppe Motor, you will fail and it will change your life.  More importantly this group of scientists are not trying to get rich from this nor are they doing this for their own gain solely. They are trying to help all of humanity so help them help us and build your own Keppe Motor, improve it, share it and lets together put a stop to the waste of our natural resources.

Ok here is the vid, pay attention to the sound of the motor, very impresive. Of course this proves nothing but like I said build your own and find out for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5_45ZMCsQ (vid might still be processing, check back in a few)

Peace,

Will

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW5_45ZMCsQ

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Re: Keppe Motor simular to Newman-Bedini combination
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2008, 08:51:42 AM »
I do not give any cent for development,
I promised donate OU site when Keppe motor is(!) able to fly.
I can read  from stop.org not english version:
Main energy source comes from scalar ... from essential ... oh dear!
Fractional energy comes from battery ...
 400g rotor(!) makes 3500 RPM when sprndinf 15W
 250g rotor(!) makes 4500 RPM. ...
torque 5 times better than "normal" motor ...
performamce 20 times better than ordinary motor ... ::)

Thats declared  ::)

Regards,
khabe

 

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