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Offline mindsweeper

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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2009, 10:56:02 AM »
Here is the allocated radio spectrum for the USA, looks like the 13.56 MHz is allocated to aeronautical radionavigation & Mobile

The link to the spectrum is here http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf

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Re: Burning water video
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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2009, 12:24:06 PM »
Jeez.....

That exact frequency is also one of the many ISM allocations. Please note ISM allocations tend to be harmonics of other ISM allocations.

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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2009, 10:13:49 PM »
Prof

You talk about modulating the frequency to that of waters resonant frequency - what do you think this is? 

I ask as I feel pretty sure that it would be much greater than 13.56MHz - I presumed that's what microwave ovens did at 2.4GHz

Not sure what you mean by this:

As obviously it is chlorine ions in the water that provides chlorine gas in standard electrolysis, not sodium.

I'm a little in the dark with your reference to the Rife Device as I've never heard of it or of Rifes work, but I would think this is very different to using nano particles like Kanzius was.  If you are familiar with an induction furnace, you will know that what Kanzius was doing with the metallic nano particles makes perfect sense and would seem a lot less complicated than trying to find a specific resonant frequency of a cancerous cell.

I just wish that there was an electrochemist out there somewhere that might be able to shed some light on the electrochemical reaction.  I've not even heard any theories as to the reaction/s taking place.


Hi,

Google production of Chlorine may be you find your Answer.

If you have been around this forum reading the HH2O threads you would have heard about resonant frequencies of water.
There are a few claims but all of them are in the Ultrasonic range. Microwave produces steam just try and light a cup of boiling water in a microwave you'll find out .....it does nothing.
Keely and you can Google all of this as well as I can, said it was somewhere at 42.800 Khz  clearly ultrasonic.
As I said I will not rehash what is commonly known by most. http://amasci.com/freenrg/h2oblast.html

I am quite clear as to what Kanzius did and I am  very familiar with his method.
Just Google "Rife" and  and you will have your answer as to why I compared both People that in a  different yet  similar Way destroyed Cancer.
You need to do some reading and research before assuming certain things and only then  should you be looking for answers to Questions that you do not understand.
Please do your research or you will be waisting Bandwidth your time and everybody else's time.
No bashing intended.
professor

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Re: Burning water video
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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2009, 01:23:50 AM »
With all due respect Prof, I do find your last post typical of the arrogance of many on these forums.

People like you seem to think you know it all, while others, like me, as you put it 'need to do some reading and research'. Comments like that get my back up right away - you have no idea of who I am or what my background education is, let alone what I know or don't know.

There has only ever been claims of people dissociating water in the ultrasonic range, largely due to these being frequencies claimed by Meyer and that link you posted - I've yet to see it actually substantiated. I've heard all the talk Prof, but that's all it seems to be... just talk.

To the best of my knowledge only Kanzius has ever done this on the record - or anything like this.

Most Meyer type units using ultrasonic pulsing are still effectively standard electrolysers pulsing dc, and still relying on current flow and the exchange of charges on the electrodes. And many people in their naivety simply use dc pulsing as a way of controlling the gas output, while never actually achieving anything like a useable amount of gas in the first place!

The resonant frequency of the water molecule is far greater than ultrasonic frequencies, but this is quite irrelevant in that we are never talking about a single water molecule.  Furthermore there can be no magical resonant frequency to dissociate water as water molecules cluster together. Hence, the overall mass of any given body of water would require a different frequency to resonate.

If what happened in that test tube was related to a resonant ultrasonic frequency, then it would also be related to the mass of water within the tube, so the frequency to achieve that result would be different for any given amount of water. However, I doubt any reputable experimentor would have been quite so quick to dismantle his apparatus and forget the whole thing. Such a discovery would surely have encouraged further research. 

Have you ever ignited the resulting mist of an ultrasonic mister? Did it burn?

Anyway you're right about one thing, I'm clearly wasting bandwidth and more importantly my time here, so I'll leave you to it.

No bashing intended!



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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2009, 04:22:09 AM »
Hi Farrah Day

         Well I am with you on this, and 42.8khz, is not ultra sonic, microwave oven uses sonic sound wave, produced in a cavity.
I will stop here I may be wasting  bandwidth and time.
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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2009, 04:53:52 AM »
Anything over 20k Hz is considered ultrasonic.

Bill

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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2009, 12:10:28 PM »
Hi Farrah Day

         Well I am with you on this, and 42.8khz, is not ultra sonic, microwave oven uses sonic sound wave, produced in a cavity.
I will stop here I may be wasting  bandwidth and time.
aussepom

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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2009, 11:31:37 PM »
Hi Farrah Day

         Well I am with you on this, and 42.8khz, is not ultra sonic, microwave oven uses sonic sound wave, produced in a cavity.
I will stop here I may be wasting  bandwidth and time.
aussepom

Why do some people need to be spoon fed .
All you have to do is  Google Ultrasound frequencies and you will find out that what you posted is untrue    http://books.google.ca/books?id=z4kd-x97bXMC&pg=PA414&lpg=PA414&dq=Ultrasound+frequency+spectrum&source=bl&ots=0EZqZsN3Yd&sig=huLQpEJnJQZQWZdFP-U4CLlQcyo&hl=en&ei=j6ytSaaKB4m4sAOS0vjKBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result#PPP1,M1
Bill Pirate88179 got it right!    You are partially right with your Microwave comment . A microwave oven uses a tuned Cavity but is a  Magnetron RF Oscillator that produces microwaves at about 2.4GHZ which is not ultrasound.
Look up the frequency spectrum Chart you will see where what frequency starts and stops.
Your Am FM Radio does not receive Ultrasound frequencies neither does your Cell.
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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2009, 11:38:00 PM »
With all due respect Prof, I do find your last post typical of the arrogance of many on these forums.

People like you seem to think you know it all, while others, like me, as you put it 'need to do some reading and research'. Comments like that get my back up right away - you have no idea of who I am or what my background education is, let alone what I know or don't know.

There has only ever been claims of people dissociating water in the ultrasonic range, largely due to these being frequencies claimed by Meyer and that link you posted - I've yet to see it actually substantiated. I've heard all the talk Prof, but that's all it seems to be... just talk.

To the best of my knowledge only Kanzius has ever done this on the record - or anything like this.

Most Meyer type units using ultrasonic pulsing are still effectively standard electrolysers pulsing dc, and still relying on current flow and the exchange of charges on the electrodes. And many people in their naivety simply use dc pulsing as a way of controlling the gas output, while never actually achieving anything like a useable amount of gas in the first place!

The resonant frequency of the water molecule is far greater than ultrasonic frequencies, but this is quite irrelevant in that we are never talking about a single water molecule.  Furthermore there can be no magical resonant frequency to dissociate water as water molecules cluster together. Hence, the overall mass of any given body of water would require a different frequency to resonate.

If what happened in that test tube was related to a resonant ultrasonic frequency, then it would also be related to the mass of water within the tube, so the frequency to achieve that result would be different for any given amount of water. However, I doubt any reputable experimentor would have been quite so quick to dismantle his apparatus and forget the whole thing. Such a discovery would surely have encouraged further research. 

Have you ever ignited the resulting mist of an ultrasonic mister? Did it burn?

Anyway you're right about one thing, I'm clearly wasting bandwidth and more importantly my time here, so I'll leave you to it.

No bashing intended!




@Farrah Day

Sorry you feel that way.....
You were the one that scrutinized my post remember !.
You seem to have all the answers so why ask?
Guess you as so many others just want to start a flame war.
As to who you are ?    Who  am I ?
Good Luck    I regret having take the Hook and sinker.
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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2009, 04:29:38 AM »
yes professor.....farrahday holds too many similarities to "thebuzz" who has been banned.....and farrahday was almost banned for posting disinfo in one of hartiberlin's threads.

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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2009, 08:39:51 PM »
yes professor.....farrahday holds too many similarities to "thebuzz" who has been banned.....and farrahday was almost banned for posting disinfo in one of hartiberlin's threads.
Personally I think he might be alias Wizard of Mars  same attitude and none belief!

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« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2009, 09:12:14 PM »
He was also on here as Cabinboy and Meltdown and was banned under those names as well.  This was documented by Stefan.

Bill

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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2009, 02:30:52 PM »
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@Farrah Day

Sorry you feel that way.....
You were the one that scrutinized my post remember !.
You seem to have all the answers so why ask?
Guess you as so many others just want to start a flame war.
As to who you are ?    Who  am I ?
Good Luck    I regret having take the Hook and sinker.
professor

If you look back Professor Brainstorm, you'll see that I never scrutinised your post, I simply asked a couple of legitimate questions, which you in your wisdom seemed to take exception to. 

I was expecting you to come back with something by way of an explanation, with the view to further discussion, but instead you decided to try to belittle me. I realised you weren't up to intelligent discussion and I left you to it - no 'flame war' as you put it.

And besides, you talk of me wanting a 'flame war', when you go out of your way to stick the boot in of the other thread!

Kinesis has already proven himself to be amongst the most stupid people on the forum so any comment coming from him can be totally disregarded!

And as for Captain Pugwash...

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He was also on here as Cabinboy and Meltdown and was banned under those names as well.  This was documented by Stefan.

Bill

What the hell are you on about??  Where do you get this rubbish from? Have you got nothing better to do with yourself?

What a bunch of arseholes you three are!


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Re: Burning water video
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2009, 06:11:29 PM »
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user's Farrah Day and Loner ,both long time members here ,are working to focus and understand this ENORMOUS technological advance, disassociation of water through various means
Chet

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« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2009, 12:50:10 AM »
If you look back Professor Brainstorm, you'll see that I never scrutinised your post, I simply asked a couple of legitimate questions, which you in your wisdom seemed to take exception to. 

I was expecting you to come back with something by way of an explanation, with the view to further discussion, but instead you decided to try to belittle me. I realised you weren't up to intelligent discussion and I left you to it - no 'flame war' as you put it.

And besides, you talk of me wanting a 'flame war', when you go out of your way to stick the boot in of the other thread!

Kinesis has already proven himself to be amongst the most stupid people on the forum so any comment coming from him can be totally disregarded!

And as for Captain Pugwash...

What the hell are you on about??  Where do you get this rubbish from? Have you got nothing better to do with yourself?

What a bunch of arseholes you three are!



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Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 10, 2008, 06:06:09 PM
The 'BUZZ' and 'Meltdown' are one and the same...one gets the boot and another not so coincidentally pops up with the very same beefs and preoccupations...its groundhog day again.

I would suggest ignoring the troll just as before...when he will then start making mindless threats again and get booted...again.

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User Meltdown ( the same IP as user CabinBoy)
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As I said, it has been documented so, I hope this answers your question.  Captain Pugwash?  Can you not do any better than that?  Come on Buzz you are slipping here.

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