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Offline ben8807

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How a TPU could work if it did.
« on: September 12, 2008, 04:06:45 AM »
First off, I am a skeptic. I have seen a few con men in my day and I don't instantly believe everyone who says they can make something from nothing. I however do believe that science has not figured everything out. Here are some things I have gleaned from studying all available info on Steven Mark(?)s TPU.

It is remarkably similar to a Hendershot device in one regard. It has a inductor coil right next to some sort of conductive loop.

It is obviously easy to make. Call SM a genius and a painstaking inventor if you like but his work is sloppy and he did try to look more advanced than he was by surrounding himself with audio/video equipment.

From the dis-assembly video it seems that the device had no solid core.

Also from the videos there appear to be a couple tank circuits and not much else to the device.

Here is my theory on how the device works:

The core of the earth is made up of high temperature iron and other metals. It is currently suspected that Iron becomes superconductive at high temperatures. There are also some theories about high electrical currents in the core of the earth causing the magnetic field we all enjoy. If both of these things are true, then there is a high current but low voltage DC just miles below our feet. This however is almost useless since it is DC and extremely low voltage. Also it is probable that the electrons move in some sort of lock step pulses due to induction.

However, what if you could use this current to induce another current? A loop of wire placed horizontal with the surface of the earth would work if the current was pulsed DC or AC, but with a high current with subtle pulses this wont work. What you need is a tuned circuit that places electrons in motion so that the current of the core of the earth adds to the motion. In a loop, one side is sped up while the other is minimally affected. To put it simply, one side is catching a wave while the other is traveling against the wave, the side that catches the wave is in contact with it for longer so it has more effect causing a net gain.

Now how to construct such a circuit? Well, I had an initial idea, but now I have a better picture. You start out with a coil of wire, and use that for the basis of the device. The coil is wound such that the radius is maintained fairly constant. The two ends of the coil are your output. Another coil is then wrapped around this first coil forming a toroid. Basically the first coil is used as the core of a toroidal inductor. The second coil is the drive.

Then you send extremely quick pulses through the drive coil. The initial pulse is the important part, everything beyond that goes into losses. Using several frequencies may have some merit, but I think the whole purpose of that is heterodyning a hard to generate frequency.

If you think about it, the Hendershot device would then be a device using the same effect but instead getting its output directly from the core it is inductively coupled to the core. Less output, less efficiency.

This would make the whole key to these devices be proper construction and tuning. With the Hendershot device, Lester was tapping off the effect, but probably only glancing it at best. It's quite possible that nobody ever succeeded in creating a working version of the device after he died because nobody could tune it right.

With the TPU, if the device is so simple, how would SM have patented it? If the heat problem is due to the current in the core, it should be easy to fix, but someone who is more interested in wearing nice shoes and living in a mansion may not have realized this. I side with Jack Durban on this, Steven was terrified of admitting how simple the device was, and he had no idea how to make it do what he wanted it to do. The kind of person who connects his coil with wire nuts and constructs the coil out of romex seems like the same kind of person who would submerge the device in water to try and cool it. I will not bow to the shrine of SM y'all have set up here, but I openly admit the device might work.

I'm gonna build the thing and try it out. Sadly I already bought a toroidal transformer for this device, and now am going to have to shelve it to start from scratch, but starting from a better point is worth the extra effort.

Offline Spider

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Re: How a TPU could work if it did.
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2008, 07:12:54 PM »
Hi Ben,


I am glad that you joined in to build something.

I am looking forward to your results!

Greetings Spider

Offline ben8807

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Re: How a TPU could work if it did.
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2008, 11:29:27 PM »
I got some questions PMed to me, so in the spirit of openness here are my responses:

What I intend to create is nothing more than a transformer in design. The core is the secondary, the windings surrounding it are the primary. It will use pulsed DC on the primary to create a magnetic field that will travel the loop and induce a DC current on the secondary. If I am right, then the heat created will be from the current in the secondary, low load = low current, high load = high current.  The magic happens IF the current induced in the secondary is amplified by external forces. In essence the secondary has a very negative apparent resistance. The whole thing hinges around having a current that is fed by another external force.

It's like trying to surf, if you are not moving at nearly the same speed as the waves they are nearly transparent to you, as you reach nearly the same speed you can use the waves to propel you until they overtake you. All the primary does is induce a current which can then be increased by external influence.

If I'm right, it's not 'Free Energy' in the sense that it's energy from nothing, instead it is energy from a free source like solar panels or wind generators.

PS: Does anyone have a good supplier for magnet wire? I'm gonna need some pretty heavy gauge stuff for the secondary, and unless I get a better supplier I'm going with e-bay. Already have the wire for the primary from a previous experiment.

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Re: How a TPU could work if it did.
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2008, 12:04:37 AM »
It self-resonates. The forces in the electrons sing 'Holy', 'Holy', 'Holy' ...

Hmmmm. Now there is a new twist. The entity has 3 axis to the vector.

Extraction through use of a spark gap and harvest from the noise.
Extraction through resonance and phase control and harvest from a phase of the sine.
Extraction through precession and harvest down stream in the collector.

--giantkiller. This could get noisy.....

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Re: How a TPU could work if it did.
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2008, 12:42:44 AM »
This schematic shows harvesting power from static electricity.

Put a small signal on that arial that duplicates the antenna.

There is a small spark gap and large spark gap. Just like a stun gun.

Same as it ever was.

I have pulled out my quad channel controller to drive the next coil of 8 coils I have made. This is the precession in the collector test. This version will push the control in one direction from opposite sides of the device.


Offline ben8807

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Re: How a TPU could work if it did.
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2008, 01:16:07 AM »
The core is going to be copper since the goal is not to create a magnetic field, but instead to create an quickly rotating electromagnetic effect. It's going to be a continuous loop with output taken from each end. The spinning magnetic field will drive the secondary in little kicks, hopefully causing it to sync up with the earths core causing big kicks.

In reply to another PM:
If I am correct, back EMF in the secondary is not going to be an issue, instead the core of the earth will cause forward EMF. Current is born, and the more windings the higher the voltage. With no load however you are correct, back EMF would negate any energy gained. So the more power you draw, the more current goes through the secondary, the hotter the device gets. This is why I have abandoned a solid core device before even building one, a continuous loop with almost no resistance would quickly overhead/melt into slag. Perhaps this is how SM discovered the effect in the first place, using toroidal transformers to carry audio signals to speakers. I have suspected for a little time now that the TPU was caused by experimentation in delaying sound signals through transformer coils for a surround sound setup.

Then all you need is to put diodes on the output and run it through some capacitors to steady the DC out and take away all the hash. Could even run it though a capacitor inductor set to get nearly pure DC.


Nice antenna generation setup Giant. Seen several similar designs to pick up radio signals and use them for power. Problem is that you are limited by antenna size and construction. It's hard to collect multiple frequencies with a single antenna design, and inefficient at best, but good luck to you.

Power extraction as I stated above should be the easiest part. This is just a DC transformer to generate more power out than in. Will it work? Who knows! But worth investigating.


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Re: How a TPU could work if it did.
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2008, 10:57:25 PM »