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Offline thx1138

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2013, 05:55:42 PM »
The only way to use it is by small quantities spread uniformly around the world. Quite contrary to current bussiness model, ok ? You should know it better Tito,right ?  ::) Press too much and the governor (he he what a coincidence) will kill you .... Didn't you read Mythology ? [
Ahh, but what's a small quantity? In our thinking today we think of "small" as enough to power a cell phone. On Dr. Tesla's scales, however, enough energy to power your home is miniscule. He was always concerned with providing industrial scale power and he considered enough power to provide for the needs a town as "small".

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Offline forest

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2013, 09:36:55 PM »
I don't know exactly. Think like about a large wheel turned by electricity and loaded . If you have a belt that's fine but if you attach a mass to one point and disturb the mass center then the precession could destroy it.

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 05:12:43 AM »
Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no magic involved. Everything necessary to understand and implement it is right there in Dr. Tesla's patents, lectures, and interviews. It does, however, take some work to dig it out and connect the dots. It is also very easy to confuse his different systems as parts of the same system which they are not. The collection of radiant energy and the wireless transmission of energy are two different things. The former collects and converts radiant energy into electricity. The latter transmits electricity, no matter what the source of the electricity is, without wires.


lol.  ;D  Ya there is no magic but there is really other way to do it easily. Tesla intentionally did not show the other way
and what we are seeing in his patents are completely different and bulk.


its just a common sense actually but it is really tricky if you will discover it. ;)

Lets say to energize lots of coil then what we need is a big magnetic flux isn't it?, we only need a very small energy to do it. And TRE is enough to energize the whole world promise.  ;)   8)

and that's magic to others even scientist.  ;D   


"To control something big, sometimes many times all we need is just a trigger. remember that buddy"  ;)

Etits ;D

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 05:12:43 AM »
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Offline thx1138

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2013, 03:46:07 AM »
Tesla intentionally did not show the other way and what we are seeing in his patents are completely different and bulk.
Yes. Without understanding the information in his lectures, interviews, and papers, the patents are meaningless.

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Lets say to energize lots of coil then what we need is a big magnetic flux isn't it?, we only need a very small energy to do it.
Magnetic flux doesn't have anything to do with radiant energy but I guess you could run a coil through the van Allen belts and power the world. Elon Musk might be interested.
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and that's magic to others even scientist.
Scientists understand it quite well.

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"To control something big, sometimes many times all we need is just a trigger. remember that buddy"
Yes, it only takes a small amount of conventional explosive to detonate a nuclear explosion.

"The phenomena of radioactivity are not the result of forces within the radioactive substances but are caused by this ray emitted by the sun. If radium could be screened effectively against this ray it would cease to be radioactive..."Nikola Tesla,New York Times, Section 2, 1 - July 5, 1931

”I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device.”-Nikola Tesla,Brooklin Eagle,July 10,1932

"Reports of discoveries by which it will be possible to communicate with the planets and to produce radium in unlimited quantity for $1 a pound were announced by Dr. Nikola Tesla yesterday." New York Times, July 11, 1937

In 1937 the cost of radium was £58,000 per gram. Dr. Tesla was talking about making that $1 per pound or roughly $0.0022 per gram.

Of course the creation of the atomic bomb in the 40's instigated the controls on radioactive materials. But there were no controls on radioactive materials in the 30's. And the modern exposure standards derived from the Japanese bombings are bogus. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130813201434.htm

Offline BANDI

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TREC Replication.
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2014, 07:19:29 PM »
Hi guys,
I decided to make a replication of TREC in my spare time.
I have almost all mounted.
I share the photos to all those who want to se  it's realy like.
 I worked on it while on vacation in Transylvania, where it is mounted.

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Offline BANDI

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2014, 07:32:44 PM »
Wauu... !!!
The photos have come out huge ....!

Sorry..

Offline Paul-R

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Re: TREC Replication.
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2014, 06:38:01 PM »
Hi guys,
I decided to make a replication of TREC in my spare time.

Be VERY VERY careful. This subject can be extremely dangerous. PAtrick warned about it in the UK Free Energy Conference back in 2008

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Offline BANDI

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2014, 07:25:18 PM »
Hi Paul,
Thank you very much for the advice.
I hope to be dangerous .... because it's hard work and a lot of money! (it s my profesion)
I had no time to set up yet.
And I still need some information, such:
The spirals are completely insulated or only sandwiched with Lexan?
Tuning process ... Etc

Any suggestion is welcome!

(Sorry for my bad English)

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2014, 04:02:09 PM »

I hope to be dangerous ....
We are talking explosive quantities of energy coming at you. You need to be ready for it. Be afraid.

You are best guided by Patrick:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter7.pdf
Search for "TREC". Currently Page 39 (although page numbers vary with time as material is added).

Take this project seriously or you will get bitten savagely.

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2014, 04:02:09 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2014, 07:54:27 PM »
I agree with that.

That elevated structure will "collect" some radiant energy all right, just wait for the next thunderstorm. Got your fire insurance all paid up?

Offline conradelektro

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2014, 08:24:47 PM »
There is energy in the air, it is called electrostatic charge.

Electric density increases 88 DC volts with each metre of altitude above the earth, or, in feet equivalents, 1-19 DC volts per foot of altitude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NearField-Earth-eField.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_electricity#Electrification_in_the_air

Many people tried to "harvest" this charge. It is possible with balloons (http://www.rexresearch.com/plauson/plauson.htm) or kites (round June 1752, Franklin reportedly performed his famous kite experiment).

The danger is being struck by lightning.

Usually (if there is no thunderstorm) this energy near the ground is not very dense and is difficult to do something useful with it. I could see it with an electroscope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroscope and a wire from the roof window of my house during a dry day.

I think that with some "elevated construction" one either receives nearby AM radio stations or emissions from nearby cell phone towers or electrostatic charge. As it was said by others in this thread, beware of lightning. The lightning fatality rate is around 0.1 to 6 per million inhabitants per year (depending if it is a more rural country or not). But building an "elevated structure" with metal on top and a cable leading down, means calling in strikes.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
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Offline MasterPlaster

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Re: TREC Replication.
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2014, 12:15:45 AM »
Be VERY VERY careful. This subject can be extremely dangerous. PAtrick warned about it in the UK Free Energy Conference back in 2008

Hello Paul,

Either Patrick has no clue what he is talking about or he is a coward. On second thoughts he may be both.
I don't know who this Patrick is but if you were to inquire if he has built a collector he would say no, based on
such a device being a death machine.

I have been on these forums a long time and I have seen all kinds of clowns.

On the off chance Patrick can demonstrate this device working to me personally, I will give him £1000 for his troubles!

Offline BANDI

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2014, 12:19:32 AM »
Hi Paul,
Tthe problem is that these details are  missing in  Patrik s book, and I don't know anyone who has more information about the topic .
I understand that the author can not be contacted anymore.


Offline BANDI

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2014, 02:48:22 AM »
Hi Conrad,

Thanks for the information,  I read part of it in the past.... This system in theory, has some diferent principle as Pausons sistems.
But to make it works, in my opinion, whe need some more things :
 
  Start up mechanism is needed.
   Must be  find the  sistem- signal rhythm (frequency, which should be very high).
   Then,at this frequency,  the negative half cycle  maintained at the end of the upper spiral
   Then, an one direction (positiv) circuit from -center of the upper spiral  -  coil-  center of  lower spiral.
Rugly...In this way we create a path of no return to the "absorbed" positive charge ,   but is only my opinion.

 Lightnings are a problem in such an apparatus it s truth, but the danger can be  mitigated , with a good anti lightning, correctly calculated and adapted at this situation, (  i m working in electrical engineering) it s possible.

As I said, I can only work on it on my vacations, because I work outside the country. Probably in July, august I will continue.

Until then, any good idea,  details, suggestions  ar welcome!

Thanks.







Offline Farmhand

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Re: Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2014, 03:12:58 AM »
Tesla's radiant energy system consisted of basically,

1) an elevated (insulated) plate (not a spiral coil)
2) a ground plate/rod
3) and a capacitor which is switched to the load when a certain tension is reached.

The system can receive some wave energy like radio signals, as well as atmospheric potential and charged particles.

Any Antenna system can be protected against lightning, just like a crystal radio antenna.

An electric Fence energizer is protected by a spark gap and a choke coil between the energizer and the fence.

However I would not set one up on my house. Just to be safe, rarely does a person get a second chance with lightning.

Here is a simple small set up in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdxrLF9wPnw

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