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BEP

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #450 on: June 11, 2009, 02:31:39 PM »
@MCD

I have only two disagreements with you last post.

1. If the red wires have no connection then please tell us how the have a purpose. I cannot see any possibilities without connection.

2. Your comments to Marco. If you are called a 'Tube Man' feel honored and thank him for it. I would  ;D People who only know SS are like auto drivers who can't fix a flat tire. If things reach an unknown point they must sit and wait for someone to help.



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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #451 on: June 11, 2009, 03:17:13 PM »
If the red wires have no connection then please tell us how the have a purpose. I cannot see any possibilities without connection.


How about an "Avramenko Plug"?

http://www.alternativkanalen.com/s-wire.htm

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #452 on: June 11, 2009, 03:54:55 PM »
MAYBE I WILL MAKE A MOVE ....  :D

IF I DO IT WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MAGNETICS AND ELECTRICS ...

FIRST I WILL EXPLAIN IT ..

TAKE A HAMMER HIT SOMETHING WITH IT ...  MAYBE A  PEICE OF STEEL  IT WILL RINGGGGGGGGGGG

SO B4 IT STOPS RINGGGGINGGGGG  DO IT AGIN IN THE CORRECT TIMEING ...

WHAT IS THE RESULT

HIT IT THEN TAP IT ....   HUMMMMMM

IS THERE A RESONANT RIZE .....  ;)


IST!

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #453 on: June 11, 2009, 04:02:24 PM »
"WHY?"
There should be no question. They are connected somewhere.
5000Hz can also mean 5000 RPM so it must be like a generator with a virtual rotor. Albeit, the 'fields' mentioned are not described as magnetic.
I hope we do too. I don't think we will if we continue thinking about moving a simple magnet over a piece of wire. That is the weakest way to cause current flow with a magnet. The strongest way is to align that magnetic field radial to the wire. Then rotate it around the wire at very high speeds.

Therefore, the 'core' is a conductor or air AND this conductor is in the center of the TPU. This conductor is created with the operation of the TPU, NOT part of the assembly.

How do you think he could measure current with the clamp meter with no wire in the clamp? Try it. I have. The only way to have a reading is with a current carrying wire inside the clamp or a large change in the local magnetic field strength (also, assumed possible if you had current flowing through air).

I think the TPU is nothing more than a means to emulate the action of magnetic fields around a current carrying wire. When running it causes current to flow through the vertical axis of the TPU.

To tap this potential he adds a Rogowski coil all around the TPU (constant voltage output) and we have confused this coil to be a control coil. The only control coils are the ones on the outside placed in quadrature positions. The FTPU and OTPU use a slightly different method.

 
With that thought in-mind consider this:

You CAN stack Rogowski coils on a current carrying wire. AND you CAN connect them in any method you choose to increase voltage or current output. AND you can have as many as you want.

Our terminology is wrong. The 'collector' IS the complete TPU. The loop in the middle is just the return wire for the Rogowski coil.

While the above is only my opinion I am quite certain I am correct.

Great post, BEP.



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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #454 on: June 11, 2009, 05:04:23 PM »

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #455 on: June 11, 2009, 07:14:15 PM »
Please note as the earlier pdf link describes somewhat - this coil is inherently less coupled to the core conductor. Also be it understood such a coil is famous for very low output voltage. The solution is found if you understand voltage is not only induced by increasing field from the conductor being monitored but also by increasing rotation and frequency of the monitored current. Also understand the coil is only sensitive to the complete rise and only a small portion of the fall time of the monitored signal.
This alone would provide some conversion of sine to a more DC output. 
Then there is the use or non-use of magnets.
Consider the orientation of the magnets on all with magnets except the OTPU along with the orientation of the magnet used to start the early TPUs. Unless he had unusual magnets the poles were pointed to the vertical central axis.
This tells me he was using radial magnetic fields.
Now the only way to cause a radial field with CCs wound as shown is to always have adjacent coils bucking. You then just rotate the bucking point around the circumference in a way that no coil is ever off. There is your virtual rotor. The OTPU uses the same bucking with the red wires except the bucking points include fields concentrated by applied magnets.

The circuitry then would be nothing more than a racetrack circuit.


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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #456 on: June 11, 2009, 09:02:04 PM »
@BEP

You may well have something here......

The drive circuitry would then be current, not voltage, dependent and could be low voltage high current pulses. 1 joule over 1 second = 1 watt.... the same joule over 1 microsecond = 1 megawatt (Energy/Time=Power). It does not matter whether these pulses have a "gap" in between them. This would explain the "AC or High Frequency characteristics of a DC arc".

If you were to space the pulses properly, you would have 1 megawatt pulses flowing through the field generation coil. If carefully balanced using amperage verses voltage pulses, then the output would drastically increase in the Rogowski coils......

The control coils would then not only be the generation coils, but could be used to monitor the field, and thus control current pulsing.... brilliant!

This may actually work!

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #457 on: June 11, 2009, 09:31:41 PM »

[0345] "Energy is not Bound by the Space-Time Lattice."

This is an important distinction and relevant to his concept of quintessence as a frequency. He seems to be saying space-time and matter is not a fundamental system, but Energy is.

[0346] "Thus as the EPR experiments suggest the existence of energy separate from matter and thus separate from the three dimensional space time lattice, it is interesting to find that experiments suggest the existence of free energy in a continuum separate from space time and matter to produce the effects of quantum teleportation."

So I would guess the total Energy includes "hyperdimensions" in a holistic scale of reference and possibilities such as those credited to Tesla in the alleged Philadelphia experiment with the rotating magnetic field, a SUPERTPU, if you will.  :D

I will go out on a limb, and risk looking the nut.

What I am stating, in a nutshell, is that all energy IS the "system". His described space-time matrix is nothing more than a latticework of stored energy potential.

What people refer to with terms such as "zero-point energy" is free energy not coalesced into either the space-time matrix or into much larger "particles", and is somewhat unusable by any other source, as it is a background energy with no available difference to equalize, in other words no "ground".

Particles are made of the same energy, and so are the "quasi-particles" such as photons. This energy however is MORE BASIC in nature than photonic "light", as is currently thought by many.

This concept also explains the emergence directly from space-time of short-lived unstable "virtual" particles as well as spontaneous stable particle formation. It is merely energy release and conversion of already present potential.

All "Energy" is either locked up in and/or proceding from as well as eventually returning to, the "space-time matrix".

What we are describing is in effect the "Aether" of old. No surprise, as it requires little imagination to understand that the current space-time understanding did not ever replace the Aether concept, but merely restated it.

That is why "space-time" has physical properties to begin with. It truly no more explains action at a distance than did the old Aether concept, it merely gives finer detail.

Paul Andrulis

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #458 on: June 11, 2009, 10:02:11 PM »
The 60hz system we have today is comprised of Conduction and kinetics. Too bad. The controlling forces of that time thought you have to push electrons. Tesla's solution enabled that for long distances. A real half-assed fix. But he had to pry dollars from the idiots somehow.
But!
If Telsa had his 100% way the we would be kinetically transfering atomic pressure upon a transformer at a distance with no current flow and through resonance. Each transformer would become a baby Wardenclyffe and then shock the aether in resonance with the return magnetic force and not conduction through a conductor.
Oops! You wouldn't need a grid. The wheelworks of nature would be our device.

--giantkiller. Silly humans...
« Last Edit: June 11, 2009, 10:51:38 PM by giantkiller »

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #459 on: June 11, 2009, 11:32:30 PM »
.... The solution is found if you understand voltage is not only induced by increasing field from the conductor being monitored but also by increasing rotation and frequency of the monitored current. Also understand the coil is only sensitive to the complete rise and only a small portion of the fall time of the monitored signal.
.... 
Then there is the use or non-use of magnets.
Consider the orientation of the magnets on all with magnets except the OTPU along with the orientation of the magnet used to start the early TPUs. Unless he had unusual magnets the poles were pointed to the vertical central axis.
This tells me he was using radial magnetic fields.
Now the only way to cause a radial field with CCs wound as shown is to always have adjacent coils bucking. You then just rotate the bucking point around the circumference in a way that no coil is ever off. There is your virtual rotor. ...

Hallelujah
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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #460 on: June 12, 2009, 12:22:16 AM »
Ok.
Let us assume that the radial field pattern exists inside a conductor(collector)-that would be B1-.Now assume that somehow- see tao's posts- a current I appear in that conductor.That current will create the second B field ,let's say B2.So what now?Will the field pattern begin to rotate?that would be nice.Nope ,it will begin to swirl around .So the B2 will make B1 to swirl. Now what does that swirling create/induce ?That's right.A new current that will amplify the first current.And and and .....

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #461 on: June 12, 2009, 12:36:13 AM »
The Rodin coil does not have any coating on the wire, the wire is bare copper. Yet it does not short out... I believe IBM or HP did the research on it. I wouldn't be suprised if this was half the puzzle.



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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #462 on: June 12, 2009, 01:15:40 AM »
Hallelujah
Remember my posts?

 ;D

I did more than remember your posts. Unfortunately, just party tricks here so far. The hardest part for me, so far, was letting go with the digital garbage and just let the thing do what it wants at the rate it wants.

So far, I can make a compass wind up and down or make weak but strange sci-fi noises. Out is not greater than in and I certainly can't light a 60W bulb with it :(

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #463 on: June 12, 2009, 01:21:59 AM »
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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #464 on: June 12, 2009, 01:26:24 AM »
BTW there is only one control coil and that's the one on the outside, the ones on the collector are for inducing the effect.The freq on the controll is around 5kHz (square or not).remember: the first ,the second harmonic and the third
(example 20kHz,60kHz,5kHz).