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Author Topic: Towards Realizing the TPU  (Read 197322 times)

Offline Room3327

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #90 on: January 24, 2009, 07:27:31 PM »
Marco,
      It is not me you are saying has nothing, You are saying Tesla has nothing.  This isn't my idea!  I am merely trying to get to the bottom of what Tesla's idea's were.  What are you trying to do?

P.S.  I'm not saying the magnetic field is rotating per se,  Not me but Tesla says that it is the 2 points of highest magnetic intensity that are rotating.

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #91 on: January 24, 2009, 07:30:57 PM »
@GK

I will get the Keely book. I am due for a good sofa read.


You will not able to rest, my friend.

@all,
Statement made of Intrtoductory pulse. Can you say 'Magnet swipe'?
Quick, you won't be sorry...
Page 134, 2nd column, top paragraph:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get218

Now we have reference to this action by Keely, Telsa, Steven Mark of kicking in the resonance. And then what is mentioned? You can transmit very large power through resonance. And the transmitting device is fed by the Resonant coupling with the universe properties.

Most here are taught by Dominant Current layer. There are 2 more layers for all this TPU topology, Tesla and Keely to be understood. This is what is hidden in the Tesal patents and clearly spelled out by Keely.
And did you know Keely and Cayce had meetings over the benefits of SVP in health issues(Dotto ring)? Keely could touch things and make them work. Cayce could touch bodies and diagnose them. Pomerlou could think frequencies and make coils ring.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Daniel_Pomerleau_Free_Energy_Coils

@Marco,
you are right. Same old psychology in these threads. Alot of Edisons have come and gone. Some still hold onto old school. That is too bad.


--giantkiller.

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #92 on: January 24, 2009, 07:38:39 PM »
@ wattsup wrote: -

"Then there is the most puzzling side. I once did a test using the FTPU outer rings, coil as primary and ring as output secondary. The primary was connected to a Tesla ozone patent set-up so the outer ring coil was the primary of the working circuit. This actually gave the best coupling effect I have seen in any of my tests. But here is the question. To do this you need a coil of high induction and where in the FTPU could you see such a coil. It's not the outer coils or rings, it's not the center toroid, so where? It could be the one hidden on the lower disk or it could be placed inside the center of the reel structure since we see there is something there when he turns it over. I thought it looked like a microphone to induce high frequency audio feedback."

The coil of high induction has to be the one with most turns. Remember what SM said about cutting as many copper wires as possible with magnetic flux. I would say this is the outer coil but this must be bifilar, very high inductance and not connected to anything at each end (ends left floating). I would connect the two strands in Tesla series (end of one winding connected to the start of the other winding). The collector would then be a number of turns of heavy copper wire ( very low inductance coil) in close proximity to the bifilar coil. The high inductance bifilar coil might be made of iron wire? I would say that the toroids are HV generator to pulse a control coil, again wound in close proximity to the other two coils. The open bifilar should have the effect of boosting the coupling between the collector and the control coil and. The whole unit should find its own natural resonance and tune itself to the load, so long as the bifilar coil is left open ended.

I see no precision in the construction of SM's TPU's. In fact the build looks quite sloppy, so I do not see why we should assume any real critical aspects other than getting the coils in very close proximity to each other. I can see that there may well be three groups three coils around the circumference of the big TPU to increase power output and these may be working at different frequencies but not necessarily creating a rotating magnetic field.

Hoppy


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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #93 on: January 24, 2009, 07:48:13 PM »
Marco,
      It is not me you are saying has nothing, You are saying Tesla has nothing.  This isn't my idea!  I am merely trying to get to the bottom of what Tesla's idea's were. 


First of all i'm not saying that Tesla had nothing, these are your words.
Tesla knew how to make things work but he never figured out why they did what they did.

Please get to that bottom of what Tesla's idea's were ,maybe you will find out he was a clever normal person who discoverd alot of things, but he wasn't a god.
He also made alot of mistakes ,which is human.


What are you trying to do?


I am fighting an endless battle in the hope it will end one day.




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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #94 on: January 24, 2009, 07:51:29 PM »
@Room3327

I thought  you were referring to the rotational speed of the generator in the Tesla patent.

@sparks

I think I got exactly what you mean. Surprised?
The FTPU has a second ring coil and that explains why the winding wires had certain changes in their visual diameters when  looking real close up. The outer ring is the output converter coil and now to only make high voltage spikes, that's easy. The outputs I have already traced.

Holly shit. Next experiments. Another insulated bailing wire ring with one thin wind and one thicker wind.

Offline Antimon

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #95 on: January 24, 2009, 07:56:01 PM »
I can see that there may well be three groups three coils around the circumference of the big TPU to increase power output and these may be working at different frequencies but not necessarily creating a rotating magnetic field.

It's not possible without rotation. I haven't said which field, but we have to move it....

A.

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #96 on: January 24, 2009, 07:58:14 PM »
@Room3327

I thought  you were referring to the rotational speed of the generator in the Tesla patent.

@sparks

I think I got exactly what you mean. Surprised?
The FTPU has a second ring coil and that explains why the winding wires had certain changes in their visual diameters when  looking real close up. The outer ring is the output converter coil and now to only make high voltage spikes, that's easy. The outputs I have already traced.

Holly shit. Next experiments. Another insulated bailing wire ring with one thin wind and one thicker wind.

GK4 right out of the 381970 patent. Just dont touch it when it is on. Keely damaged his left hand around the late 1800s. Check out the pictures of him. He hides his left hand.

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turbo

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #97 on: January 24, 2009, 08:21:08 PM »
It was just a joke, I think you know, why I made that.  :P

I have no idea, could you please tell me?

Well i have no idea either, but sometimes that happens.
I was just wondering if you knew why.
Nevermind bro.

turbo

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #98 on: January 24, 2009, 08:22:36 PM »
It's not possible without rotation. I haven't said which field, but we have to move it....

A.

Thanks,

This info goes for "the tip of the day"
I really hope they will drop the magnetic part some day.

Offline sparks

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #99 on: January 24, 2009, 08:42:55 PM »
     Damn it is such a simple concept a child could get it.  Take a sinewave as it appears on your scope.  Now start to shorten the time axis while maintaining in your mind what it is doing to the wave amplitude.  As you compress the time or x axis your voltage should be going up and up the screen.  When you get the x axis to reach zeropoint notice that your voltage level is now lets say off the screen off the planet and terminates at some event horizon line.  Now go the other way and you can see that the wave can expand to a great many frequencies as you lengthen the time axis.  Now shoot that time axis until your sinewave is flattened.  Now you have a dc bias of infinite wavelength.  One oscillation from o-1000 volts in a nanosecond will expand to o to how many volts in say an hour.  Not much but the current or reaction of the mass to force should be quite lengthy.
    If we use the coils of a motor as the inductor in a resonant circuit.  Within the inertial frame of the resonant lc circuit the rotation of the motor and mechanical loading of such is not there.  The motor loading resides in the inertial frame between the motor shaft and stator only.  The oscillations of the resonant circuit  therefore are undamped by the motor loading.  Einstein or someone said that all physics are the same for every inertial frame of reference.  The problem occurs when the observer has to look at two inertial frames of reference at the same time.
What laws govern the interaction of two inertial frames of reference seems to be where quantom physics falls apart. 

Offline forest

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #100 on: January 24, 2009, 11:23:35 PM »
I have such concept ; we need 3 elements:

- rotating magnetic field + a power source to sustain it at constant start speed
- output coil
- element which accelerates rotating magnetic field to generate exactly required power for connected load to output coil, it may be called control element

It's obvious that rotating magnetic field must be able to move alone without power source connected directly, because acceleration of it will broken any electronic generator.
It's obvious that between all elements Lenz's law principles must be used to keep acceleration at safe level and remove runaway probability.

There is another possibility not related to magnetic field , but that idea is too crazy to mention it now.In that second idea rotation speed is constant value depended maybe only on device diameter, but I can't imagine how magnetic field would behave in that situation and everything else also...

Offline Antimon

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2009, 02:54:24 PM »
Guys, please don't forget the physics.

Power=torque*2*pi*frequency

It doesn't matter how fast you spin, you will never get overunity. In this case its only possible when you overcome lentz law.

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Offline sparks

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #102 on: January 25, 2009, 03:13:11 PM »
    There was another gentleman who went about the task of rectifying AC and built a MAGNETIC DIODE and got alot more out than in most probably by accident.  Daniel McFarland Cook.  This is basically a couple of old school ignition coils hooked in an interesting parallel configuration and excited by an ac pulse.
    Another interesting effect is the acceleration of a dcmotor when there is no external field to limit it's acceleration.  As the armature accelerates it needs less and less current from the battery.  At what rpm will the armature need microvolts to further it's acceleration.  At a million 5million probably about the time the armature rpm gets beyond the speed of light and we cant find the commutator anymore.
   Move the fields and the mass will respond.  Move the mass and the fields will respond.

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #103 on: January 25, 2009, 04:47:16 PM »
perepiteia is negating Lenz's law for example

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #104 on: January 25, 2009, 04:58:26 PM »
    Lenz law applies only to physics residing in the same inertial frame of reference without consideration of spacetime curvature or vacuum fluctuations about a field of mass.    It is a specific case mathmatical solution of maxwells equations and far from the last word on induced voltage.   It should be called the lenz effect not the lenz law.