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Offline kacor

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #105 on: January 25, 2009, 05:04:07 PM »
@Loner

To answer your question there is a quote

SM Fairy Tale

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. the king was  relieved that they had taken the shortcut  ..but when he saw all he other uninvited guests he realized that disconnecting the main return wire was a bad mistake. He grabbed a few of them and put them to work ...he was able to send some of the  others back down the original wire in the hope that they would find another king to annoy But there were too many of them so he quickly found another big wire that led somewhere else and joined them together. he managed to get most other uninvited guest to go down that one, away form his kingdom.. told them tell the others that the party was over but they were having such fun ,weaving and winding ..jumping and pushing.

@ all

I don't know how many of you have read that fairy tale, and also don't know how many of you think it is really not a tale.

Bless you all
Kacor
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Offline wattsup

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #106 on: January 25, 2009, 07:17:23 PM »
@sparks

Regarding the Cook coils, I had built 3 of them in variations of winds and materials. The best one is still the first one I made (right) using iron wire core. Funny I was thinking of taking them out again under some new pulsing methods (when I have the time).  Regarding the Cook coils, it is said that it should be used in tandem with other driving methods or apparatus but I have not figured it out yet, The way the original patent shows the connections as a cross from one primary to the other secondary and back make for some weird scope shots when pulsing either AC sine or DC. There is more on these builds in this thread: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2630.msg37613#msg37613

This week I am going to make a new FTPU outer ring using the same iron wire (insulated) and wind some coils over it to see the effect.

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Offline forest

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #107 on: January 25, 2009, 08:47:28 PM »
Quote from: wattsup on January 25, 2009, 07:17:23 PM
@sparks

Regarding the Cook coils, I had built 3 of them in variations of winds and materials. The best one is still the first one I made (right) using iron wire core. Funny I was thinking of taking them out again under some new pulsing methods (when I have the time).  Regarding the Cook coils, it is said that it should be used in tandem with other driving methods or apparatus but I have not figured it out yet, The way the original patent shows the connections as a cross from one primary to the other secondary and back make for some weird scope shots when pulsing either AC sine or DC. There is more on these builds in this thread: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2630.msg37613#msg37613

This week I am going to make a new FTPU outer ring using the same iron wire (insulated) and wind some coils over it to see the effect.



Funny , I have built my tpu the same way as brnbrade coil, except output coil is crossing iron core like in Gunderson patent. That was my theory based : instead of rotating magnetic field, just allow to create stationary electric waves in coils around core and let the Earth rotate it.
If that works , and it should according to MCFarland and others the problem remains , how to collect electricity for output.
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Offline forest

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2009, 10:50:49 PM »
What's going on with brnbrade topic. All responses from brnbrade was removed ! I wanted to follow that topic but it's really hard because all responses are removed !
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Offline MACEDONIA CD

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #109 on: January 27, 2009, 12:34:18 AM »
@watsoup
i see  your coils  i see in the midle coils  there is  two coils  i thing   you whill have some dc  voltage  very small dc voltage if  you  put two separated  long  antenas  simple wire  i thing is like caps   is charging itself  whit potencials   charging     THING  LIKE THIS AND TRAED THIS  ONE COIL IS  LIKE  ONE PIN FROM CAP  ATHERE COIL IS   ANTHERE PIN FROM   CAP  AND I THING YOU WHILL HAVE  SOME  TO COLECT  OF  FREE ENERGY   OR 
OH  TO NOT FORGET  YOU MAST MAKE  3 COILS  <PICK UP COIL  TO   GET  SOME POTRNCIAL  DC VOLTAGE  FROM THIS TWO  COILS   WHIT  THIS  ANTENAS   
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I WHILL SAY SOME ATHERE    POTENCILA  ELKTRICYTY  IS MORE POWERFULL THEN  CLASICAL ELKTROMAGNET FORCE FILD  WHIT THIS   YOU ONLY NEED JUST LITLE  INPUT  TO  PICKUP  DC VOTAGE
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Offline duff

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #110 on: January 27, 2009, 01:46:12 AM »
Quote from: forest on January 26, 2009, 10:50:49 PM
What's going on with brnbrade topic. All responses from brnbrade was removed ! I wanted to follow that topic but it's really hard because all responses are removed !

Forest,

I have upload the notes and images I have on brnbrade. Hopefully you will find what you need.

It is a 1.7M D/L in html format.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get219

-Duff

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Offline Mannix

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #111 on: January 27, 2009, 05:23:57 AM »
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Offline rensseak

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #112 on: January 27, 2009, 04:20:30 PM »
Quote from: Mannix on January 27, 2009, 05:23:57 AM
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item220


you will need  Multisim 10

Hi Sir Mannix,

are this the kicks we are looking for so long time? I think so and it looks great and so simple. Did you test it also in real?

Thanks
Norbert
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Offline slapper

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #113 on: January 27, 2009, 06:38:16 PM »
Just in case some members do not have access to Multisim a screen shot is attached.

Thanks Lindsay. Take care.

nap
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Offline Room3327

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #114 on: January 27, 2009, 07:44:10 PM »
Nice amplifier setup, but it is just an electronic circuit.  Where in this do you expect to find any overunity and by what mechanism?
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Offline rensseak

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #115 on: January 27, 2009, 08:09:45 PM »
Quote from: Room3327 on January 27, 2009, 07:44:10 PM
Nice amplifier setup, but it is just an electronic circuit.  Where in this do you expect to find any overunity and by what mechanism?

You do the simulation first before you ask and read what SM told us.
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Offline Room3327

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #116 on: January 27, 2009, 08:42:38 PM »
Oh, Shut my mouth and do as told, so sorry. But someone should tell you that those are just transformers and no transformer is overunity.  It is also common knowledge that there is not more energy in a BEMF spike then the energy that went into creating it.  It is also a fact that rogue waves do not contain any more energy then the waves that went into creating it.  And if you are going to be daring enough to pump RF energy into basically, a transmitting coil with an attached recieving coil, you deserve to be burned and hurt.  Yea. I know the truth hurts!  And I will also add, as I was told by the NEC at one point," There is no configuration of PM magnets and transformer combinations that have ever been modeled (and they have modeled a lot) that ever showed any sign of overunity".
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Offline pese

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #117 on: January 27, 2009, 09:08:13 PM »
Quote from: slapper on January 27, 2009, 06:38:16 PM
Just in case some members do not have access to Multisim a screen shot is attached.

Thanks Lindsay. Take care.

nap
This cicuot shown very "unfortunatly"

Also nothin is say over the imepancie. and ration of the transformers. Even the biasing of the transitors (10 / 100kohm divider separated with  secondary of Transformer is not usual .  We will see the coming problems...
Gustav Pese
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Offline wattsup

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #118 on: January 27, 2009, 10:09:45 PM »
@sparks

Regarding the FTPU outer rings (2), now if we supposed that each ring is made of insulated iron wire that is one length turned three times and connected end to end to make a mobius type loop. Now, let's say you have one coil wound all around the loop that we would call the secondary. Then you have one coil wound over just 1/3 of the loop called the primary. 

We already know that in standard laminated core coupling, the flux moves in the laminations relative to the primary polarities then to the secondary and thus creates the transfer.

Now in this case, when the primary hits the insulated iron wire (equal to laminate core), since it is insulated and turning three times back onto itself, does this mean with one pulse on primary, the flux will make three turns inside the secondary wind.

This would be equal to what @grumpy showed in his recent document on toroid windings, having one primary over several toroids transfering to many secondaries. The idea behind having a three ring laminate is that if the primary is well timed to expend the least energy possible (most bang for the buck which can be done very easilly with Tesla Ozone Patent shorting method), there may be a cumulative effect over the secondaries and produce some OU.

I know some will say "there goes wattsup again with his standard thinking", but this would not be so standard if the flux can turn three times inside the secondary winding. We are always trying to push current inside a copper condutor to impart coupling to other copper wires when we already know the best way is to move the flux in a laminate and if this flux can turn and turn many times very fast, I think it should make some interesting results.

In any case, I will make one this week and test it.
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Offline poynt99

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Re: Towards Realizing the TPU
« Reply #119 on: January 28, 2009, 01:34:22 AM »
Quote from: rensseak on January 27, 2009, 08:09:45 PM
You do the simulation first before you ask and read what SM told us.

The circuit is a variation of a "Ring Oscillator".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_oscillator

It can be built with capacitors instead as shown, but the reason for the transformer approach should be obvious.

A possible means to an end.

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