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nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #330 on: October 19, 2008, 04:51:04 AM »
remember that even the romans could melt glass, but dumping fuel into a simple brick oven.
until enough heat had "built up" in the oven, to melt even sand into glass.


bricks are VERY resistance to heat. especially if you have a thick enough wall of bricks.

i was thinking of a 2 foot long by 2 foot wide by 1 foot high oven. with a small opening inside, to hold the metals and sand.

and a hand held propane torch, dumping heat into the opening.
and a brick or 2 sealing up most of the opening, when the metals and sand are melting inside the oven.



if you moved quickly with thick metal tools, you could remove the brick lid, and remove the molten copper sand sand.
without your metal tools melting.

you would also have to be wearing a leather welding jacket, and a transparent welding mask. to protect your body from the intense heat., for the few seconds that your body is exposed to the heat.


if spear throwing, phalanx marching, providence conquering romans can do it, than so can we!

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #331 on: October 19, 2008, 05:01:56 AM »
the iron atoms electrons, generate a magnetic field.
the copper atoms protons, generate a diamagnetic field.



.......in the ZPE molecule:

the irons magnetic field, disrupts the coppers protons?

and the coppers diamagnetic field, disrupts the irons electrons?

one atom is disrupting the other atom, as long as the ZPE molecule is whole?


the disrupted copper and the disrupted iron, share each others density/weight?
causing even more disruptance-generated-electricity?

and what did you mean about these disrupted atoms creating their own pressure?

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #332 on: October 19, 2008, 05:04:04 AM »
or could i say that the coppers clockwise spin, is disrupting the irons electrons?

and the irons counter-clockwise spin, is disrupting the coppers protons?


does light from the sun, energize the protons?
causing them to spin clockwise?

and anti-light from a blackhole, energize electrons?
causing them to spin counter-clockwise?

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #333 on: October 19, 2008, 05:15:05 AM »
.....i put 2 sticks of copper into an empty plastic glue bottle.
(there was some residual glue on the bottle)

i filled it most of the way with clean ground water.
(no chlorine or flouride-poison in this water!)



i hooked the 2 copper sticks up to a 9 volt battery. and left it that way for an hour or so.

i just checked it. and the water has turned a vived green color.
which tells me that lots of copper atoms have broken off into it.


i disconnected the 9 volt battery, and checked the multimeter.
this litte "monatomic copper vat", was holding voltage and amperage.

so i shorted out the 2 copper sticks for a few second, and checked again.
and the monatomiccopper vat, is recharging itself!


i think there might be a ZPE molecule-like reaction, between the copper atoms, carbon atoms, and the oxygen/hydrogen atoms in the water.

but i'm leaving the vat shorted out for awhile, to see how long it takes this living-dead recharge rate, to go away.

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #334 on: October 19, 2008, 10:11:43 AM »
this is the atom allocation that i had in mind.


ironically, the electricity will not be able to travel through the glue, from one terminal to the other.
because the glues electrical resistance will be too high.

it will be the magentism that draws the metal atoms towards the terminals.
only the magnetism of the "charge-up electricity" will travel through the glue, from one terminal to the other.

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #335 on: October 19, 2008, 05:08:52 PM »
Hi!

At the moment I do not have any new information. I am just reading old posts and seeking for a spark to ignite my inventive mind.

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #336 on: October 19, 2008, 07:47:51 PM »
Hi!

@nitinniun
Pardon my ignorance. My question is: What is a ZPE molecule?
I ask because I am trying to understand your posts.

Jesus

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #337 on: October 19, 2008, 07:52:44 PM »
Hi!

My mistake. I just found out what does it mean. It is Zero Point Energy.

Jesus

sparks

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #338 on: October 19, 2008, 10:51:29 PM »
  What is proven is that a crystal has the ability to demodulate visible light into it's constituent frequencies.   So it acts like a radio demodulator circuit for light,  sorting out the different frequencies.  If these sorted frequencies are caused to interfere with each other and produce a frequency or interference pattern at a frequency that is very low and is imposed on an antennae that resonates at this lower frequency, we get direct conversion of light to electricity without relying on hit or miss photon collisions with electron collisions as occurs in photovoltaic cells.
  I am sure that the same mechanism could be used to demodulate and reconstruct lower frequency wavelengths like infrared to microwave or even megahertz or lower frequencies where resonant circuits are employed to charge capacitors.  These crystals would work night and day on any scource of infrared radiant energy like warm sand or warm ocean water.  One guy wrote a book about the Bermuda Triangle and believes that crystallized methane gas converts warm ocean water to microwaves that screw around with compasses and forms a mini aurora borealis effect.  Another guy believes that the pyramids were used to change infrared into sonic oscillations to send the Pharohs to oblivion.   
  I know this isn't electrinium but while you guys are trying to make crystalline structures it would be worth a thought.  Two different crystals.  One to demodulate and the other to hetrodyne the demodulated highfrequency emwave into a lower high intensity frequency that is focused on an input antennae to an electrical circuit caused to resonate at the hetrodyned frequency.

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #339 on: October 20, 2008, 12:03:24 AM »
i feel tht the people in this forum, make their plans unneccesarily complicated.

their over-complexification sabotages their results.
it makes the results inefficient and harder for others to understand.
and sometimes keeps the results from being discovered, all together.


the best method, is simplicity.
to make something as simple as possible, without losing any of its meaning.

if it is too simple, than add just enough complexity too it, to make it complete.


like this drawing.

resonanceman

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #340 on: October 20, 2008, 12:04:58 AM »
  What is proven is that a crystal has the ability to demodulate visible light into it's constituent frequencies.   So it acts like a radio demodulator circuit for light,  sorting out the different frequencies.  If these sorted frequencies are caused to interfere with each other and produce a frequency or interference pattern at a frequency that is very low and is imposed on an antennae that resonates at this lower frequency, we get direct conversion of light to electricity without relying on hit or miss photon collisions with electron collisions as occurs in photovoltaic cells.
  I am sure that the same mechanism could be used to demodulate and reconstruct lower frequency wavelengths like infrared to microwave or even megahertz or lower frequencies where resonant circuits are employed to charge capacitors.  These crystals would work night and day on any scource of infrared radiant energy like warm sand or warm ocean water.  One guy wrote a book about the Bermuda Triangle and believes that crystallized methane gas converts warm ocean water to microwaves that screw around with compasses and forms a mini aurora borealis effect.  Another guy believes that the pyramids were used to change infrared into sonic oscillations to send the Pharohs to oblivion.   
  I know this isn't electrinium but while you guys are trying to make crystalline structures it would be worth a thought.  Two different crystals.  One to demodulate and the other to hetrodyne the demodulated highfrequency emwave into a lower high intensity frequency that is focused on an input antennae to an electrical circuit caused to resonate at the hetrodyned frequency.

Sparks

Using  your  ideas   about  demodulating  energy 
Isn't  a diode  often used to demodulate  a radio signal?
In  electrinium   couldn't  the  electrinium  compound  be  a demodulator  and  the  silicon/boron  the  hetrodyning section ?   
It seems to me that you  are talking about  resonance  and  frequency  where the  electrinium PDF  talks  about harmony .   

gary

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #341 on: October 20, 2008, 12:49:00 AM »
i just realized something important!


i have 2 sticks of steel, sitting in water.

the resistance is a few k-ohm's.

when i charge the 2 sticks with a 9 volt battery, the resistance becomes so high, that it is unreadable!


when i remove the battery, the resistance becomes SEVERAL m-OHM'S!
and then SLOWLY drops back down to a few k-ohms!


polarized water has increased electrical resistance??????


this is very important too me.
because an electrically resistant substance, allows my ZPE molecule to work.

i think the middle-substance would retain its electrical resistance, if its molecules hardened while in the polarized configuration.



john hutchison's cells cooled off while they were polarized by electricity.
so HIS middle substance would harden into the polarized configuration too!

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #342 on: October 20, 2008, 02:32:57 AM »
when i used graphite powder instead of glue, there was a much lower resistance between the 2 terminals.
because graphite powder is a conductor.


the voltage was lower.
but the amperage was higher.

the graphite powder was NOT packed tightly. so i was surprised that the amperage was that high.



if lower electrical resistance means more amperage,
than i could get more amperage out of a ZPE cell, by adding conductors to the middle substance?

to sacrifice voltage, for more amperage?

nievesoliveras

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #343 on: October 20, 2008, 02:59:49 AM »
Hi!

@nitinnium
I dont know what is happening because:
I was experimenting with two galvanized screws to see if even being the same would be polarity among them. The thing is that if you use a battery charger and put the two screws inside a cup with a pinch of baking soda, one of the screws will keep the negative polarity always and the other the positive polarity always.
The question here is: Will it be posible to align the atoms on the electrinium battery with a battery charger instead of using high voltage to do it?

Jesus

nitinnun

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Re: Electrinium
« Reply #344 on: October 20, 2008, 03:15:16 AM »
Hi!

@nitinnium
I dont know what is happening because:
I was experimenting with two galvanized screws to see if even being the same would be polarity among them. The thing is that if you use a battery charger and put the two screws inside a cup with a pinch of baking soda, one of the screws will keep the negative polarity always and the other the positive polarity always.
The question here is: Will it be posible to align the atoms on the electrinium battery with a battery charger instead of using high voltage to do it?

Jesus




i would think that even a little voltage, would polarize.

but the more voltage/amperage you have, the "higher the quality" of the "polarized configuration", of the atoms.


learning that polarized molecules have greater electrical resistance, has caused me to came up with an improved explanation, for the polarized-configuration that i want, in my ZPE cell.

i'm still deciding on the best way to express it, in a drawing.

this improved understanding has me very excited.